1-Feb-86 08:39:25-MST,922;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 1 Feb 86 08:39:19-MST Received: from brl-tgr.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a002103; 1 Feb 86 10:09 EST Received: from usenet by TGR.BRL.ARPA id a003670; 1 Feb 86 10:01 EST From: llg Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: Exidy Word Processor ROM PAC Message-ID: <394@we53.UUCP> Date: 31 Jan 86 13:40:11 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA To Charles Loader: This is regarding your reply to my request looking for a ROM PAC for my Sorcerer. I have been trying to call Ted Hoekman to see if he wants to sell his or give me a copy on floppy. However, he has not been home when I call after regular business hours. Could you please get in touch with him regarding this matter? I can be reached at AT&T on Coronet 8-377-2523 or write to: Larry Griffin, 856 Sugarhill Dr, Ballwin, Mo. 63021. . 1-Feb-86 14:22:22-MST,609;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 1 Feb 86 14:22:17-MST Received: from brl-tgr.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a002686; 1 Feb 86 15:46 EST Received: from usenet by TGR.BRL.ARPA id a005412; 1 Feb 86 15:40 EST From: John Blalock Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: Re: Hard disk? Message-ID: <1026@terak.UUCP> Date: 29 Jan 86 16:56:49 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA CAUTION - If you use the Xebec S100 host adapter, DO NOT use their BIOS patches! Their patches will not work for disks with greater than 8MB capacity. 1-Feb-86 23:24:20-MST,1612;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 1 Feb 86 23:24:13-MST Received: from brl-tgr.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a003339; 2 Feb 86 0:45 EST Received: from usenet by TGR.BRL.ARPA id a014914; 2 Feb 86 0:40 EST From: Ruben Ramirez-Mitchell Newsgroups: net.micro,net.micro.cpm Subject: Compupro user Message-ID: <2893@ut-ngp.UUCP> Date: 31 Jan 86 15:09:34 GMT Xref: seismo net.micro:14410 net.micro.cpm:5572 To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA I have two Compupro systems: Ruben Mitchell - Cell Research Inst., Univ. of Texas, Austin, Tx, 78712 (512) 471-3965 Lab > 8088/8085 , SPUZ-64K, 512K Main memory, 512K M-Drive/H Q540 HD, SS1, I3, Televideo 950 terminals. MPM-816 and CDOS-816 (with PC shell) v 3.1 Home > Same as Lab system but with SPUZ-256K, 640K main memory, and 1Mb M-drive/H. Software: FinalWord (1.15 and MS-DOS 1.17), PerfectWriter (1.15,1.2) BDS-C, Turbo Pascal, MBasic, etc. Citation, Notebook, Bibliography, Dbase II, SuperCalc, PerfectCalc, Systat, Kamas and lots of Public Domain. Please send me a copy of your user list. Ruben Mitchell -- Ruben Mitchell Cell Research Institute University of Texas Austin, Texas 78712 ruben@ut-ngp.ARPA 2-Feb-86 22:19:59-MST,3006;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 2 Feb 86 22:19:39-MST Received: from simtel20.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a005416; 2 Feb 86 23:54 EST Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1986 21:55 MST Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@SIMTEL20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: Chaining programs by using a $$$.SUB file The following program, MAKESUB2.ASM, illustrates how to create a $$$.SUB file. It is intended to show how you can do this from within your own machine-language program. In this illustration, only one command, "DIR", is done. The program code would of course have to be more complex if more than one command must be written to the submit file. As mentioned before, the commands must be written one to each 128-byte record, in reverse order. --Keith Petersen Arpa: W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA GEmail: W8SDZ uucp: {ihnp4,allegra,cmcl2,dual,decvax,mcnc,mcvax,vax135}!seismo!w8sdz --cut here-- ; ; MAKESUB.ASM ; (revised 4/28/80) ; ;11/04/79 FIRST WRITTEN BY KEITH PETERSEN ; AND BOB MATHIAS. ; ;04/28/80 UPDATED FOR MORE EFFICIENT CODING BY ; CLAYTON HIBBERT AND KEITH PETERSEN. ; ;THIS PROGRAM DEMONSTRATES HOW ONE CP/M COM ;PROGRAM CAN EXECUTE ANOTHER COM PROGRAM. ;THE SECRET IS IN CREATING A FILE CALLED ;"$$$.SUB" WHICH CONTAINS THE COMMAND TO ;EXECUTE THE NEXT PROGRAM. AFTER DOING THAT, ;A JMP TO WARM BOOT (0000H) WILL CAUSE CP/M ;TO DO A SUBMIT OF THAT COMMAND. ; ; DRNAME EQU 4 ;ADDR. WHERE DRIVE NAME IS BDOS EQU 5 FCB EQU 5CH FCBEX EQU FCB+12 FCBNR EQU FCB+32 BUFF EQU 80H ;CP/M DEFAULT BUFFER MAKE EQU 22 WRITE EQU 21 CLOSE EQU 16 ; ORG 100H ; LXI H,FILNAM ;POINT TO FILENAME LXI D,FCB ;POINT TO FCB MVI B,13 ;LENGTH OF FILENAME CALL MOVER ;MOVE IT TO FCB ; ; GO MAKE THE FILE ; XRA A STA FCBNR ;SET RECORD NUMBER TO ZERO LXI D,FCB ;POINT TO NAME MVI C,MAKE ;MAKE FILE CALL BDOS ; ; GET THE NAME TO PUT IN FILE ; LXI H,COMNAM ;POINT TO COMMAND STRING LXI D,BUFF ;POINT TO FCB MVI B,NAMLEN ;LENGTH OF MOVE CALL MOVER ;MOVE NAME INTO BUFFER ; ; WRITE FILE NAME TO DISK ; LXI D,FCB ;POINT TO NAME MVI C,WRITE ;WRITE RECORD CALL BDOS ; ; NOW CLOSE THE FILE ON DISK ; LXI D,FCB ;POINT TO NAME MVI C,CLOSE ;CLOSE FILE CALL BDOS ; ; INSURE THE DISK WE WANT TO SUBMIT ON ; XRA A ;GET A ZERO STA DRNAME ;SET CP/M FOR DRIVE A: JMP 0 ;REBOOT ; ;MOVE (B) BYTES FROM (HL) TO (DE) ; MOVER: MOV A,M ;GET BYTE FROM SOURCE STAX D ;STORE AT DESTINATION INX H ;INCREMENT SOURCE ADR INX D ;INCREMENT DESTINATION ADR DCR B ;DECREMENT MOVE COUNTER JNZ MOVER ;NOT DONE, DO MORE RET ; FILNAM DB 1 ;DRIVE NAME 1=A DB '$$$ SUB' ;NAME OF SUBMIT FILE DB 0 ;SET EXTENT NR TO ZERO ; COMNAM DB NAMLEN -2 AND 0FFH ; ACTUAL LENGTH OF COMMAND DB 'DIR' ;PUT COMMAND HERE DB 0 ;END WITH ZERO NAMLEN EQU $-COMNAM ;LENGTH OF NAME ; END 2-Feb-86 22:29:31-MST,1755;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 2 Feb 86 22:29:23-MST Received: from simtel20.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a005435; 2 Feb 86 23:59 EST Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1986 22:00 MST Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@SIMTEL20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: Chaining programs by using a $$$.SUB file The following program, BUILDSUB.BAS, illustrates how to create a $$$.SUB file. It is intended to show how you can do this from within your own Microsoft BASIC-80 program. In this illustration, only one command, "DIR", is done. The program code would of course have to be more complex if more than one command must be written to the submit file. As mentioned before, the commands must be written one to each 128-byte record, in reverse order. --Keith Petersen Arpa: W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA GEmail: W8SDZ uucp: {ihnp4,allegra,cmcl2,dual,decvax,mcnc,mcvax,vax135}!seismo!w8sdz --cut here-- 10 REM BUILDSUB.BAS by Keith Petersen, W8SDZ 1/24/81 20 REM This illustrates how to execute another program from 30 REM BASIC. The secret is setting up a submit file, which 40 REM CP/M then automatically executes when we leave this 50 REM program and return to CP/M. 60 OPEN "O",1,"A:$$$.SUB":REM This is the submit file 70 REM Now lets tell CP/M to do a "DIR" after we reboot. 80 REM This could just as well be a name of a .COM file 90 REM we want to execute. 100 PRINT #1,CHR$(3);"DIR";CHR$(0) 110 REM length of ^ the command string 120 REM the command ^^^ string 130 REM and a terminating zero ^ 140 CLOSE 150 POKE 4,0 : REM Assure we are on drive A: so submit will work 160 SYSTEM 2-Feb-86 23:01:27-MST,1735;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 2 Feb 86 23:01:18-MST Received: from simtel20.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a005516; 3 Feb 86 0:29 EST Date: Friday, 17 January 1986 12:15-MST Message-ID: Sender: Barbara.Zayas@cmu-sei-a.ARPA From: Barbara.Zayas@cmu-sei-a.ARPA To: arpanet-bboards@mit-mc.ARPA Subject: Software Protection Symposium ReSent-From: KPETERSEN@SIMTEL20.ARPA ReSent-To: Info-Cpm@AMSAA.ARPA ReSent-Date: Sun 2 Feb 1986 22:30-MST Software Protection Symposium To Be Held in Pittsburgh 4-5 April 1986 PITTSBURGH -- "The Future of Software Protection", a two-day symposium scheduled for 4-5 April 1986, will bring prominent legal scholars and others together to discuss one of the most crucial and controversial legal issues of the day. The symposium is jointly sponsored by the Software Engineering Institute and the University of Pittsburgh Law Review. The program will focus on intellectual property law and whether it can evolve to provide adequate protection for software. Topics to be discussed during the one and a half days include patent protection for algorithms, simultaneous copyright/trade secret protection, scope of fair use in copyright cases, ownership rights in computer generated works, and sui generis protection for software without legislation. Discussion on the second day will center on the Department of Defense's software procurement policy. The registration fee of $100 includes the University of Pittsburgh Law Review issue in which articles by the major speakers will be published. For further information, please contact Carol Biesecker, [412] 268-7786. 3-Feb-86 12:40:47-MST,607;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 3 Feb 86 12:40:41-MST Received: from ardc.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a021339; 3 Feb 86 13:57 EST Date: Mon, 3 Feb 86 13:57:14 EST From: "David G. Sampar" (PM-AL) To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA, heath-people@mit-mc.ARPA Subject: LINE / BAR GRAPHS I am looking for any sources of Public Domain software (programs or routines) that would allow me o generate line or bar graphs under CP/M 2.2. I am using a Heath H89A and a Heath H25 printer. Thanks in advance, David Sampar 4-Feb-86 06:54:53-MST,1770;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 4 Feb 86 06:54:43-MST Received: from usc-isif.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a001170; 4 Feb 86 8:21 EST Date: 4 Feb 1986 05:20-PST Sender: STANLEY@USC-ISIF.ARPA Subject: Re: Osborne1 Baud Rate Help From: STANLEY@USC-ISIF.ARPA To: krebill@ARDC.ARPA Cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <[USC-ISIF.ARPA] 4-Feb-86 05:20:03.STANLEY> In-Reply-To: The message of Mon, 27 Jan 86 19:44:18 EST from "MAJ Daniel P. Krebill" (OGA) Received: FROM USC-ECLB.ARPA BY USC-ISIF.ARPA WITH TCP ; 27 Jan 86 17:23:17 PST from AMSAA.ARPA by USC-ECLB.ARPA; Mon 27 Jan 86 17:20:09-PST from ardc.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a000579; 27 Jan 86 19:48 EST Date: Mon, 27 Jan 86 19:44:18 EST From: "MAJ Daniel P. Krebill" (OGA) To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: Osborne1 Baud Rate Help Return-Path: <@USC-ECLB.ARPA:info-cpm-request@AMSAA> There are unanswered references in the users manual that the O1 can be strapped on the RS232C port for 2400 Baud. Does anyone out there know precisely how to strap the standard O1 for 2400 BPS? Thanks! Dan -------------------- Dan, There is a jumper on the main logic board that must be changed to get 2400 baud at the RS-232 port. When you do this, you also change the 300 baud to 600 baud, so beware if you still need to communicate with something at 300. Location of the jumper is in the Tech manual, or perhaps in the blue user's manual. If you can't find it, let me know and I'll send the data from the tech manual (which is not here with me) over the net. ...Dick 4-Feb-86 08:09:54-MST,742;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 4 Feb 86 08:09:48-MST Received: from usc-isif.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a002485; 4 Feb 86 8:56 EST Date: 4 Feb 1986 05:57-PST Sender: STANLEY@USC-ISIF.ARPA Subject: PD Graphics From: STANLEY@USC-ISIF.ARPA To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <[USC-ISIF.ARPA] 4-Feb-86 05:57:02.STANLEY> I am in need of public domain programs that will allow me to plot (line, bar, pie graphs) and -- if possible -- to draw. Equipment is Heath H89A and Osborne 1 with Heath H25 printer. Anybody know of something other than PLOT33? Does anyone have any experience with PLOT33? Thanks in advance. ...Dick Stanley 4-Feb-86 12:35:40-MST,891;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 4 Feb 86 12:35:33-MST Received: from edwards-2060.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a010894; 4 Feb 86 13:40 EST Date: Tue 4 Feb 86 10:31:14-PDT From: D-ROGERS@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA Subject: UNSPOL38 To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <12180712332.23.D-ROGERS@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA> Some time ago, i posted a bug report on UNSPOL38, which indicated that it failed to work on my rainbow. It appears, now, that the reason why is that when it attempts to return system control to the user, the CP/M-80 tried to reboot to CP/M-86. I think that UNSPOL38 would work OK if converted to ASM86. Does anyone else have any experience with this? Thanks, der "...of course my opinion differs from 'most everyone else! If it were the same, i'd probably have to change it, lest i remain in error." ------- 4-Feb-86 13:11:50-MST,844;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 4 Feb 86 13:11:39-MST Received: from acc.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a010278; 4 Feb 86 13:18 EST Date: 4 Feb 86 08:31:00 PST From: "SHAWN MINER" MMDF-Warning: Parse error in preceding line at AMSAA.ARPA Subject: bar grafs on simtel To: shawn cc: stanley@USC-ISIF.ARPA, info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Reply-To: "SHAWN MINER" MMDF-Warning: Parse error in preceding line at AMSAA.ARPA shawn@acc.arpa here, I have used the domain program GRAFKII.LBR on my KAYPRO 4 and it seems generic enough, it is also somewhat change-able in the chars. used. it is not full on graphics but does a nice job. You can get it from Simtel20 as PD:GRAFKII.LBR it is a binary file of 31488 bytes. good luck shawn@acc.arpa ------ 4-Feb-86 16:56:56-MST,651;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 4 Feb 86 16:56:48-MST Received: from bbnccc.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a019627; 4 Feb 86 18:23 EST Date: Tue, 4 Feb 86 18:11:30 EST From: "Jack D. Hill" Subject: Xerox 820-II disk controller board To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Does anyone out there have a floppy disk controller board for the Xerox 820-II that they would be willing to sell? I will buy a bad one if I have to. Also, does anyone have schematics for this computer? Thank You, Jack Hill jdhill at bbnccc Jack Hill 14 Unity Ave. Belmont, Ma. 02178 617-489-4039 4-Feb-86 23:32:46-MST,571;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 4 Feb 86 23:32:42-MST Received: from brl-aos.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a020160; 5 Feb 86 0:55 EST Received: from nadc.arpa by AOS.BRL.ARPA id a026314; 5 Feb 86 0:49 EST Date: 5 Feb 1986 00:48:34-EST From: oleaass@NADC.ARPA To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA Subject: looking for tax program Does anyone on this list know of a good commercially available tax preparation program (intended for tax preparers) which runs on CP/M systems? Thanks. Please respond to OLEAASS@NADC. 5-Feb-86 07:32:31-MST,787;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 5 Feb 86 07:32:24-MST Received: from xerox.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a024433; 5 Feb 86 9:00 EST Received: from Aurora.ms by ArpaGateway.ms ; 05 FEB 86 06:00:09 PST From: Dusel.Wbst@xerox.ARPA Date: 5 Feb 86 8:58:17 EST Subject: Re: Xerox 820-II disk controller board In-reply-to: jdhill@BBNCCC.ARPA's message of Tue, 4 Feb 86 18:11:30 EST To: "Jack D. Hill" cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <860205-060009-2916@Xerox> Jack, The Xerox surplus store in Dallas has lots.. of 820-II boards and lots of floppy controller boards ($50.00). They can be reached at 214-960-3367. Closed weekends and Mondays. Pete P.S. This is open to the general public. 6-Feb-86 06:50:10-MST,1446;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 6 Feb 86 06:50:00-MST Received: from crdc-vax2.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a019824; 6 Feb 86 8:13 EST Date: Thu, 6 Feb 86 8:03:59 EST From: "Jack H. Smith" To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: Compustar model 10 boot roms Help!!!! I have an Intertec model 10 chained to a DSS-10 as station 1, and I need to find someplace to replace the model-10's boot-rom so that I can re-format my network of model 30s (unenhanced), and re-initialize my DSS-10. Does anyone out there use Intertec Compustars, or does anyone know of a place where I might be able to find either a boot-rom for the model-10 (revision level .1, or .3) or the hub-rom of the Winchester DSS-10 (revision level .3 or .4).... My maintenance contractor is having much difficulty in locating these rom-chips so I thought I might have some luck asking for info from the net. I do wish that all of the Compustar users out there will get in touch with me directly so that we might share battle and fish stories, etc. Please respond directly to me ; as I will summarize the results. If there are no responses, there will be nothing to summarize, so you will see nothing on this request in the future. I just thought I'd give you guys a shot. Thanks and clever disclaimers, Jack H. Smith 7-Feb-86 01:32:27-MST,592;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 7 Feb 86 01:32:21-MST Received: from wiscvm.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a010750; 7 Feb 86 2:59 EST Received: from (PFENNIGE)CGEUGE51.BITNET by WISCVM.WISC.EDU on 02/07/86 at 01:59:50 CST Date: 6 FEB 86 21:20-N From: PFENNIGER%CGEUGE51.BITNET@wiscvm.ARPA To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA Subj: CPM TEST THIS IS A TEST MESSAGE ONLY TO SEE IF I AM GETTING THROUGH TO YOU. I WOULD BE PLEASED IF YOU WOULD REPLY TO LET ME KNOW THIS... THANK YOU.... BRIAN JARVIS, OBSERVATOIRE DE GENEVE SWITZERLAND. 7-Feb-86 10:15:28-MST,2064;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 7 Feb 86 10:15:18-MST Received: from simtel20.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a019080; 7 Feb 86 11:35 EST Date: Fri 7 Feb 86 09:36:24-MST From: Rick Conn Subject: New SF for Z System users To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA cc: sage@LL.ARPA Message-ID: <12181488782.11.RCONN@SIMTEL20.ARPA> I have placed SF.Z80 and SF.COM into PD: and PD:. SFILER, a Subset VFILER, is a reusable component which can be placed easily into any Z System program. SF demonstrates how simple the process is and how effective/useful SFILER is. SFILER.REL has not been released yet. Rick ---- Source to SF.Z80 ---- ; ; SFILER Demo - Simple VFILER by Richard Conn ; This program demonstrates the SFILEH from the new high-order ; components library SFILER. Any program can have a built-in ; VFILER-like capability as easily as it is done in this program. ; ; Assembly instructions: ; 1) assemble SF.Z80 to produce SF.REL; command: ; ZAS SF ; 2) link in the proper libraries to create SF.COM; command: ; ZLINK SF,SFILER/,VLIB/,Z3LIB/,SYSLIB/ ; Installation instructions: ; SF can be installed in the standard way; command: ; Z3INS SYS.ENV SF.COM ; z3env equ 0f400h ; address of env desc ext z3vinit ; must use Z3VINIT for TCAP ext codend ; free space ext sfileh ; entry point ; ; Standard ZCPR 3.0 header ; jp start db 'Z3ENV' db 1 z3eadr: dw z3env ; ; Start of program ; start: ld hl,(z3eadr) ; get address call z3vinit call codend ; determine start of free space ; ; At this point, the initialization required to run SFILEH is done: ; 1) HL contains the address of the start of the free space area ; after the end of this program ; 2) the FCB at 5CH is properly initialized with file name (space ; filled if wild) and a ZCPR 3.0 - standard DU reference ; (at FCB+0 for the disk and FCB+13 for the user area) ; call sfileh ; run SFILER module ret end ------- 7-Feb-86 10:39:22-MST,652;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 7 Feb 86 10:39:12-MST Received: from simtel20.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a019488; 7 Feb 86 11:53 EST Date: Fri 7 Feb 86 09:54:06-MST From: Rick Conn Subject: New Z News et al To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <12181492003.11.RCONN@SIMTEL20.ARPA> Now in PD: -- Z-NEWS.402, 4Q2 - latest Echelon newsletter, covering many, many items, including the new business graphics ZHELPR14.RAS - volunteer helpers for those trying to manually install the ZCPR3 In PD: -- Z-NEWS.4Q2, ZHELPR14.RAS ------- 7-Feb-86 13:14:25-MST,595;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 7 Feb 86 13:14:09-MST Received: from xerox.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a019826; 7 Feb 86 12:25 EST Received: from Cabernet.ms by ArpaGateway.ms ; 07 FEB 86 09:24:43 PST Date: 7 Feb 86 09:24:37 PST (Friday) From: kaminski.PA@xerox.ARPA Subject: Re: In-reply-to: PFENNIGER%CGEUGE51.BITNET's message of 6 FEB 86 21:20 N To: PFENNIGER%CGEUGE51.BITNET@wiscvm.ARPA cc: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <860207-092443-1307@Xerox> HI BRIAN, This is a conformation of receiving your message. Joe... 7-Feb-86 13:22:21-MST,785;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 7 Feb 86 13:22:14-MST Received: from edwards-2060.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a015314; 5 Feb 86 21:17 EST Date: Wed 5 Feb 86 18:18:37-PDT From: BUSSARD@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA Subject: Cipher 525 floppy tape To: info-cpm-request@AMSAA.ARPA cc: bussard@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA Message-ID: <12181059560.17.BUSSARD@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA> Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Feb 86 13:21:17 EST Resent-From: cpmlist@AMSAA.ARPA Resent-To: info-cpm@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA Got my hands on a Cipher 525 floppy tape, with a 8" floppy interface. Has anyone ever used one of these before? Are there any device drivers and other routines out there for this? Thanks in advance. Lewis Bussard@edwards-2060 ------- 7-Feb-86 14:13:21-MST,892;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 7 Feb 86 14:13:02-MST Received: from usc-ecl.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a010263; 6 Feb 86 21:00 EST Received: from ECLD by ECLA with DECnet; Thu 6 Feb 86 18:00:59-PST Date: Thu 6 Feb 86 18:00:48-PST From: JAFFE%ECLD@USC-ECL.ARPA Subject: EPSON GENEVA CURSOR To: info-cpm-request@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <12181329383.44.JAFFE@USC-ECLD.Internet> Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Feb 86 14:18:26 EST Resent-From: cpmlist@AMSAA.ARPA Resent-To: info-cpm@USC-ECL.ARPA I need help setting the cursor type on the Epson Geneva (PX-8). The config program has an option for changing the cursor but it does not seem to stick. With the LCD screen it would be helpful to be able to spot the cursor more easily -- block cursor instead of the default underline. Any ideas? Lee Jaffe 213/743-3455 ------- 7-Feb-86 17:42:57-MST,580;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 7 Feb 86 17:42:48-MST Received: from xerox.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a025934; 7 Feb 86 19:08 EST Received: from CheninBlanc.ms by ArpaGateway.ms ; 07 FEB 86 16:08:50 PST Date: Fri, 7 Feb 86 16:08 PST From: MMoon.es@xerox.ARPA Subject: Re: In-reply-to: "PFENNIGER%CGEUGE51.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu.AG's message of 6 FEB 86 21:20 N" To: PFENNIGER%CGEUGE51.BITNET@wiscvm.ARPA cc: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <860207-160850-1232@Xerox> Alles Klar. . . MMoon@Xerox.arpa 8-Feb-86 09:17:50-MST,649;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Feb 86 09:17:45-MST Received: from wiscvm.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a027877; 8 Feb 86 10:51 EST Received: from (MAILER)MAINE.BITNET by WISCVM.WISC.EDU on 02/08/86 at 09:51:17 CST Received: by MAINE (Mailer X1.23) id 3808; Sat, 08 Feb 86 10:48:24 EST Subject: mailing list From: "Michael W. Picher" To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA Date: Sat, 08 Feb 86 10:46:42 EST Please include me on the mailing list for info-cpm Michael Picher eema031@maine.bitnet University of Maine at Orono Electrical Engineering 10-Feb-86 13:34:16-MST,1755;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 10 Feb 86 13:33:49-MST Received: from cisl-service-multics.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a014565; 10 Feb 86 14:51 EST Received: FROM HIS-PHOENIX-MULTICS.ARPA BY CISL-SERVICE-MULTICS.ARPA WITH dial; 10 FEB 1986 13:40:10 EST Posted-Date: 8 Feb 86 19:30 MST Date: Sat, 8 Feb 86 19:28 MST From: Jerry Crow Subject: FATCAT 2.3 Reply-To: JCrow%PCO-Multics@CISL-SERVICE-MULTICS.ARPA To: KPETERSEN@SIMTEL20.ARPA cc: Info-Cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <860209022821.026960@HIS-PHOENIX-MULTICS.ARPA> Nice program, FATCAT. I pulled the version 2.3 LBR file and began working with it. I installed it on a Morrow system with no problems at all. On a Kaypro, however, I encountered a problem related to the exit selection on the main menu. After pondering it for awhile and playing with it, I surmised that what is happening is that the used to select the exit is being echoed to the screen (as are all the other menu options when they are selected), and, since leads off many of the Kaypro attribute sequences, the next several characters which are sent through the CONOUT routine are gobbled by the ROM code. So, I went into the installation program and thought "OK, I'll specify a dummy sequence for program exit (terminal reset) to pad the ." Sigh. No such luck. The Turbo install program won't buy a terminal reset sequence which begins with a printing character -- or so it seems. Not a terrible problem by any measure, but rather annoying. A printing character, perhaps, for the exit selection in version 2.4? Great program. 12-Feb-86 06:51:54-MST,869;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 12 Feb 86 06:51:47-MST Received: from bbnccc.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a015716; 12 Feb 86 8:13 EST Date: Wed, 12 Feb 86 7:52:41 EST From: "Jack D. Hill" Subject: cpm for xerox 820-II To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Help, I have just upgraded from a Xerox 820 to an 820-II and I seem to be having trouble formatting disks. Since I have 5-1/4" drives I could not use the 8" version of CPM that came with the 820-II board and tried using the 820 version that I have been using on the old board. It has two INIT programs, one called INIT and the other called INIT-II(I assumed for the 820-II). I am guessing that I need the 820-II version of CPM but I can't figure out how to port it to my machine. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jack jdhill@bbnccc 13-Feb-86 22:49:51-MST,1008;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 13 Feb 86 22:49:44-MST Received: from office-1.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a000221; 14 Feb 86 0:12 EST Date: 13 Feb 86 21:09 PST From: Alan Bomberger Subject: Magic Wand To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: I have an ancient copy of Magic Wand that was configured by a no-longer-existant dealer (in those days dealer configuration was a way of stopping pirates). The print processor was configured for a Spinwriter because Diablo printers didn't work very well compared to Spinwriters. Now, however, the Spinwriter is no longer and I want to use it with printers that are Diablo compatible (like laser printers). Does anyone know how to "adjust" the print processor for Diablo. Investigations lead me to believe that a chunk of code at address 400h is replaced with a chunk of code for the Diablo. I would appreciate any help. Thanks. 13-Feb-86 23:39:33-MST,682;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 13 Feb 86 23:39:26-MST Received: from usc-isi.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a000242; 14 Feb 86 0:49 EST Date: 14 Feb 1986 00:47:20 EST Subject: Temp. Fix for NULU 1.5 From: Steve Noland To: KPETERSEN@SIMTEL20.ARPA cc: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA Just uploaded a file from Martin Murray (author of NULU) re the status of a fix for the file allocation size problem. File is called NULU15.FIX. Martin promises a new version (1.6) asap, but thi{ file containsource for a quick-and-dirty patch to hold us over until the new release. Regards, Steve Noland ------- 14-Feb-86 07:00:23-MST,1858;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 14 Feb 86 07:00:15-MST Received: from simtel20.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a002749; 14 Feb 86 8:18 EST Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1986 06:11 MST Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@SIMTEL20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: Temp. Fix for NULU 1.5 ; ; FIX FOR NULU VERSION 1.5 ; A Message from Martin Murray ; with acknowledgements to ; Howard Goldstein ; 01/09/86 ; ; A fix has been found for NULU v1.5. Like all good fixes, however, it ; causes its own share of problems and can only stand as a temporary fix ; until I can get version 1.6 out. The problem was BDOS function 37, ; which NULU15 uses before writing to a drive in case it has been ; changed. Under certain circumstances, BDOS loses its mind when this ; function is called and starts giving away previously allocated disk ; blocks. This is no good for anyone. The "solution" lies in NOT USING ; BDOS 37. The problem now is that you cannot tell NULU to log in a new ; disk. Oh well, try to live with it until I get the new one out that ; will support the fix. ; ; Assemble with your favorite assembler and merge the resulting .HEX ; file into NULU15 with MLOAD. ; ; MLOAD NULU151.COM=NULU15.COM,NULUFIX.HEX ; ; The result will be NULU 1.51 and will have the date of 01/09/86. ; ; More than special thanks are due to Howard Goldstein for this fix. He ; found the problem. He tested the fix. He waded through all my self- ; modifying code. His family will appreciate any help in paying the ; psychiatrist's bills. ; ; ORG 010CH DB '1' ; ORG 0110H DB '01/09/86' ; ORG 0150H DW 9832H ; ORG 32B9H RET ; ORG 32BCH RET ; END 14-Feb-86 13:53:46-MST,3578;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 14 Feb 86 13:53:30-MST Date: Fri, 14 Feb 86 15:05:07 EST From: Dave Towson (info-cpm-request) To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA cc: Francine Perillo Subject: Archive blurb changed: Fellow CP/Mers - Due to the relocation of the newsgroup correspondence archives on SIMTEL20, the "archive blurb", which is a users' guide to the SIMTEL20 archives, has been changed as shown below: 1. The following text has been added to the section entitled "SIGNIFICANT CHANGES": Newsgroup correspondence archive files moved: Newsgroup correspondence archives have been moved from directory PS: to individual directories having names of the form PS:, where "KEYWORD" has been chosen to indicate the associated newsgroup. See the section entitled "NEWSGROUP CORRESPONDENCE ARCHIVES" for additional details. 2. The section entitled "NEWSGROUP CORRESPONDENCE ARCHIVES" has been changed to the following: Copies of correspondence for several newsgroups are kept on SIMTEL20 in directories with names of the form PS:, where "KEYWORD" has been chosen to indicate the associated newsgroup. At present, the following correspondence archives are available: newsgroup mail archive filename --------------- --------------------- ADA-SW PS: AMETHYST-USERS PS: INFO-68K PS: INFO-APPLE PS: INFO-CPM PS: INFO-FORTH PS: INFO-HAMS PS: INFO-MICRO PS: INFO-MODEM7 PS: INFO-MODEMXX PS: INFO-MODULA-2 PS: NORTHSTAR-USERS PS: INFO-PASCAL PS: UNIX-SW PS: INFO-XENIX310 PS: Descriptions of these and other newsgroups can be obtained via FTP with anonymous login (as for SIMTEL20) from the Network Information Center's host SRI-NIC.ARPA. Ask for the file PS:INTEREST-GROUPS.TXT (an ASCII file). And please note, this is NOT on SIMTEL20. File names for SIMTEL20 newsgroup correspondence archives have two forms. For example, PS:CPM.ARCHIV.ymmdd is a group of files containing INFO-CPM correspondence going back several years. The characters "ymmdd" in the file names are actually digits giving the year, month and day of the last message in each particular file. Current correspondence is kept in the file PS:CPM-ARCHIV.TXT, which is constantly changing. Although INFO-CPM has been used as an example here, the same naming scheme is used for the other newsgroup files as well. For a complete list of available files, connect to SIMTEL20 via FTP and do this: dir ps: You will receive a list of names of the form: KEYWORD.DIRECTORY.n where "n" is one or more digits. For example, the INFO-CPM listing currently appears as "CPM.DIRECTORY.1" To then get a list of files in a particular archive, do this: dir ps: where "keyword" (for example, "cpm") is chosen from the preceding list, and the word "directory" and the number "n" are not used. At present, all of these files are stored in ASCII. Dave Towson info-cpm list maintainer 15-Feb-86 01:33:13-MST,1948;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 15 Feb 86 01:33:06-MST Received: from nusc.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a019564; 15 Feb 86 3:03 EST Date: 15 Feb 86 03:01:00 PST From: "ROSSI J.A." Subject: Access to INFO-CPM@AMSAA & North Star Formats To: info-cpm Reply-To: "ROSSI J.A." Hello, I am LT John Rossi III . I have been reviewing some of the archives from SIMTEL20 and I was somehow lead to believe that AMSAA is a clearinghouse for info on CP/M systems. I have tried to access AMSAA by way of FTP and TELNET and have found that there is no ANONYMOUS access. Question #1 - Are ytou an interactive clearinghouse ?. Independent of direct access to AMSAA, I would like to know if you could point me in the direction of a place where I can obtain a version of the MODEMx program in Northstar DS/DD (360K) format. I am currently conducting experimentsat U.S. Navy Subbase,NLON, NSMRL and I would like to use my old standby N* controller based kluged computer to handle some of the data. My communications ports are by old CompuPro Interfacer I boards so I need sufficient documentationalong with the program so that I asn patch the appropriate linklages to my user area. I need the modem program for communication with a VAX-750 which will be handling most of the data. Since N* is a hard sectored format, I realize that I have two options, type in source code, or find someone who can supply machine readable media. I would prefer the later and would be more than happy to pay for the service of obtaining the software and documentation I need to get this project moving. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank You, John Rossi III P.S. I am still new to this network game so If you could, please acknowledge receipt of this message. Thanks Again ------ 15-Feb-86 16:58:00-MST,2181;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 15 Feb 86 16:57:50-MST Received: from simtel20.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a021081; 15 Feb 86 18:22 EST Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1986 16:23 MST Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@SIMTEL20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: Quick-reference list to SIMTEL20 CP/M directories Quick reference list to SIMTEL20's MICRO: directories as of Feb. 15, 1986 (where 'x' is one of the names below): 22RSX CPM3 GENDOC PACKET TEMP 6502 CPM86 HAMMING PASCAL TERM AMETHYST CPMLIB HAMRADIO PCDOS TOPS-20 APPLE CPR86 HDUTL PCPURSUIT TRS-80 ASMUTL CUG HEATH PILOT80 TURBODOS ATARI DBASEII HELP PLOT33 TURBOPAS AZTEC-C DEBUG HEX PPSPEL TXTUTL BASIC DIRUTL IBM-PC PUBKEY VAXVMS BDOS DISASM IMP PUBPATCH VDOEDIT BDSC-1 DISKPLOT INSIDCPM RBBS VLIB BDSC-2 DSKBUF KAYPRO RBBS4 VOICE BDSC-3 DSKUTL LIST RCPM WSTAR BDSC-4 EDITC80 MACLIB ROS XCCP BSTAM EDITOR MATH SMALLC21 XLISP BYE3 EMX MBBS SORT YAM BYE5 EPSON MEMTEST SPELL Z3LIB BYT85FEB EZCPR MEX SQU-PORT Z3LIBS BYT85JAN FAST2 MICNET SQUSQ Z3NEW C80 FIDO MISC STARTER-KIT Z8EDEBUG CATLOG FILCPY MODEM SUBMIT ZCPR CB80 FILUTL MODEM2 SYSLIB ZCPR2 CBIOS FINANCE MODEM7 SYSLIB3 ZCPR3 CCP FORTH-83 MSOFT SYSLIB36 COBOL FORTRAN NEWS SYSUTL COMMODORE GENASM NSTAR T20-SQUSQ COMND GENCOM OSBORN TELEFONE 16-Feb-86 00:08:20-MST,630;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 16 Feb 86 00:08:09-MST Received: from brl-smoke.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a021721; 16 Feb 86 1:38 EST Received: from USENET by SMOKE.BRL.ARPA id a018034; 16 Feb 86 1:03 EST From: bsmith@uiucdcsp.cs.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: Re: CPM TEST Message-ID: <10600001@uiucdcsp> Date: 12 Feb 86 04:52:00 GMT Nf-ID: #R:brl-smoke.ARPA:715:uiucdcsp:10600001:000:62 Nf-From: uiucdcsp.CS.UIUC.EDU!bsmith Feb 11 22:52:00 1986 To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA You're coming in loud and clear here in Champaign, Illinois! 16-Feb-86 11:02:40-MST,1448;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 16 Feb 86 11:02:31-MST Received: from cmu-cs-a.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a022388; 16 Feb 86 12:36 EST Date: Sun, 16 Feb 86 12:38 EST From: Paul.Birkel@cmu-cs-a.ARPA To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: Morrow MD2 Message-Id: <16Feb86.123819.PB80@A.CS.CMU.EDU> I purchased a Morrow MD2 (used) last year for my father, and just now purchased a Kaypro II (used) for my wife. Thanks to MFDISK and UNIFORM I can exchange disks between the two. Given the limitations imposed by the Kaypro II drives (191K each) I'm planning to try the Micro-Cornucopia PRO-8 ROM with a pair of Mitsubishi disks (see article in M-C Dec. '85). Seems very straightforward. I'd like to do the same with the MD2; at least to get DSDD. That should just mean a new ROM if I stick to two drives; else some decoder logic changes. The M-C folks I talked to last week had never heard of such a thing. Of course the MD3 does just that. Question: Anyone done any sort of upgrade to a MD2? Anyone have a Schematic for the MD2? Anyone be willing to copy their MD3 ROM and determine any wiring diferences with the MD2 (i.e. have a MD3 schematic?)? Anyone have any help, at all, to offer? Pointers? Thank you. As I am just getting added to the mailing list, please direct any responses directly to me: BIRKEL@A.CS.CMU.EDU (or, old style, @CMU-CS-A) 16-Feb-86 11:15:06-MST,1619;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 16 Feb 86 11:14:58-MST Received: from cmu-cs-a.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a022399; 16 Feb 86 12:46 EST Date: Sun, 16 Feb 86 12:48 EST From: Paul.Birkel@cmu-cs-a.ARPA To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: CP/M to PC-DOS floppy software Message-Id: <16Feb86.124832.PB80@A.CS.CMU.EDU> I'd like to move files between a Kaypro II and a PC-AT system. I have only SSDD drives currently, although I am led to believe that PC-DOS will read SSDD disks. Is this true? I have an old UNIFORM and MFDISK; of course neither handle PC-DOS. I understand that the current UNIFORM does. Can anyone comment on their experiences with the product used for this purpose? I am planning to try the Micro-Cornucopia PRO-8 upgrade with a pair of Mitsubishi DSQD drives (see M-C Dec.84/Jan.85). How does this work with UNIFORM? Or will it? I'd like to still be able to use these drives to write DSDD disks for the standard 360K PC-DOS format. I'd also like to able to use these drives to write SSDD disks to communicate with a MD2 (unless I can figure how to upgrade that to DSDD). Is this possible, or will I have to retain a DSDD drive and SSDD drive respectively. I gather that the DSDD drive can write SSDD just fine (sales lit. for UNIFORM). The question is whether the 80 tpi drive (QD) can write/read (of course) the 40 tpi disks? Comments? Experiences? Help? Thank you. As I am just getting placed on the mailing list, could you please direct mail directly to me at: BIRKEL@A.CS.CMU.EDU (or, old style, @CMU-CS-A) 17-Feb-86 08:26:50-MST,933;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 17 Feb 86 08:26:42-MST Received: from radc-tops20.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a024055; 17 Feb 86 10:06 EST Date: Sun 16 Feb 86 14:47:41-EST From: JOEL ROBERTSON/EE/ROBINS TAC Subject: PERSCI DISK DRIVE To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <12183882900.6.ROBERTSON@RADC-TOPS20.ARPA> I NEED A FRONT BEZEL FOR A PERSCI MOD 277 FLOPPY DISK DRIVE IN EITHER NEW OR USED CONDITION. EF INDUSTRIES (WHO NOW OWN PERSCI) WANT A VERY HIGH PRICE FOR THIS AS WELL AS ALL THEIR PARTS. THE DRIVE I HAVE WAS REMOVED FROM A CROMEMCO SYSTEM. THE FRONT BEZEL WAS REMOVED AS PART OF THE INSTALLATION, SO SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE A BARREL OF THEM. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HERE FROM SOMEONE WHO HAVE OR HAVE WRITTEN A BIOS FOR THESE UNUSUAL DRIVES. PLEASE REPLY DIRECTLY TO ME. JOEL ROBERTSON ------- 17-Feb-86 08:45:15-MST,768;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 17 Feb 86 08:45:04-MST Received: from brl-aos.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a024099; 17 Feb 86 10:17 EST Received: from mit-mc.arpa by AOS.BRL.ARPA id ab17066; 17 Feb 86 10:05 EST Date: Mon, 17 Feb 86 06:04:45 EST From: "Stephen C. Hill" Subject: Header file needed To: INFO-CPM@MIT-MC.ARPA cc: STEVEH@MIT-MC.ARPA Message-ID: <[MC.LCS.MIT.EDU].820417.860217.STEVEH> I pulled the XLISP 1.2 package down from Simtel tonight. However, when I tried to compile it (BTW, does anyone have the COM file?) it asked for the file "setjmp.h" when compiling with Aztec C. Does anyone know how to obtain this file? It wasn't in the LBR file. Thanks 17-Feb-86 20:25:55-MST,969;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 17 Feb 86 20:25:44-MST Received: from mit-mc.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a026362; 17 Feb 86 22:05 EST Date: Mon, 17 Feb 86 22:07:19 EST From: Eric Stork Subject: S-100 Box Wanted To: STORK@mit-mc.ARPA, info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA, info-micro@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <[MC.LCS.MIT.EDU].821011.860217.STORK> I'm looking to get a friend started in computers, and want to obtain a used S-100 Box/Power Supply for him. Must be in good condition though Boards are not essential (we plan to use a Teletek Systemaster, so if you have that we'd consider it, else just the bare Box/Power Supply). Need space for drives, 8" preferred, will consider buying your drives but can also get new ones easily and cheaply. Contact DIRECT (not thru mailing list - let's not bother others, and i'm not on Info-Micro anyway): Stork@MIT-MC (703)241-5417 Eric. 17-Feb-86 22:53:28-MST,651;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 17 Feb 86 22:53:20-MST Received: from edwards-2060.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a026988; 18 Feb 86 0:31 EST Date: Mon 17 Feb 86 21:32:38-PDT From: BUSSARD@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA Subject: Cipher floppy tape To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <12184240607.20.BUSSARD@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA> Got my hands on a Cipher 525 floppy tape, with a 8" floppy interface. Has anyone ever used one of these before? Are there any device drivers and other routines out there for this? Thanks in advance. Lewis Bussard Bussard@edwards-2060 ------- ------- 18-Feb-86 11:42:25-MST,777;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 18 Feb 86 11:42:16-MST Received: from hplabs.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a010605; 18 Feb 86 13:01 EST Received: from HP-THOR by hplabs.ARPA ; Tue, 18 Feb 86 10:01:12 pst Date: Tue 18 Feb 86 10:01:02-PST From: Bart Subject: Televideo TS806 info request To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA I just bought a Televideo TS806/20 which is a chassis, power supply, one teac 55B, space for a motherboard, and space for a hard disk. I seem to recall that this used to be a cp/m machine of some type. If anyone has any information on the power supply rating, I would appreciate the information. Bart Sears Sears@hplabs.arpa hplabs!sears ------- 18-Feb-86 16:46:20-MST,1512;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 18 Feb 86 16:46:08-MST Received: from brl-aos.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a017903; 18 Feb 86 18:01 EST Received: from mit-mc.arpa by AOS.BRL.ARPA id aa09524; 18 Feb 86 17:50 EST Received: from Xerox.COM by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU 18 Feb 86 16:27:53 EST Received: from PinotNoir.ms by ArpaGateway.ms ; 18 FEB 86 11:09:13 PST Date: 18 Feb 86 11:02 PST From: Ghenis.pasa@XEROX.ARPA Subject: XLISP 1.2 header file (warning) In-reply-to: "Stephen C. Hill" 's message of Mon, 17 Feb 86 06:04:45 EST To: STEVEH@MIT-MC.ARPA cc: INFO-CPM@MIT-MC.ARPA Message-ID: <860218-110913-1735@Xerox> Don't bother with XLISP 1.2 under CP/M. It is simply too big and it doesn't make sense to try to run it since it leaves practically no space for lists. I received a similar warning a few months ago and still went ahead (I had to convince myself). It is so bad that after starting XLISP 1.2 all you can do is 5 or 6 conses or appends using small lists before you get an 'out of memory' error message, so it is truly USELESS (under CP/M that is). XLISP keeps getting bigger (and better) and any version after 1.1 is really meant to be used on an MS-DOS system with a lot of memory. If you must have a PD LISP for CP/M, use XLISP 1.1, which is smaller and will leave you some more room to play around. It is less standard than later versions, with a C flavor, but it will manipulate lists for you. 19-Feb-86 19:50:12-MST,1570;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 19 Feb 86 19:50:04-MST Received: from brl-smoke.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a012101; 19 Feb 86 21:14 EST Received: from USENET by SMOKE.BRL.ARPA id a019445; 19 Feb 86 21:01 EST From: frank%unido.uucp@BRL.ARPA Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: ComputerViruses: Help needed Message-ID: <10900007@unido.UUCP> Date: 14 Feb 86 16:15:00 GMT Sender: notes%unido.uucp@BRL.ARPA Nf-ID: #N:unido:10900007:000:953 Nf-From: unido!frank Feb 14 16:15:00 1986 To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Computer-Viruses: Help needed !!! Please don`t mind for posting my request into this notefile. I have been searching for any kind of literature concerning the subject of `computer viruses` for three weeks now and my results are rather poor. I only found 2 interesting entries in the databases locally available. Because I intend to get a Ph.D. in protection mechanisms against computer viruses I really have a big need for more references and hints to get. So, if anybody out there in the net does know something about the stuff, please give me any kind of information. I`m also interested in getting contacts to others working on the same or similar subject. If there will be enough feedback I will summarize the replies to the net. Thanks in advance Frank Hoffmeister frank@unido.uucp frank@unido.bitnet University of Dortmund Dept. of Computer Science PO Box 500 500 D-4600 Dortmund, F.R.Germany 20-Feb-86 03:29:51-MST,1236;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 20 Feb 86 03:29:44-MST Received: from brl-smoke.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a014746; 20 Feb 86 5:07 EST Received: from USENET by SMOKE.BRL.ARPA id a029189; 20 Feb 86 5:03 EST From: "Joseph D. Loda" Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: ZCPR3 installation on Apples Message-ID: <685@aicchi.UUCP> Date: 15 Feb 86 22:30:41 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA I am the owner of an Apple II with a Starcard (aka PCPI Applicard), and am very interested in installing ZCPR3. However, I'm lost. I'm not sure what files I need, and how to go about installing this on an Apple, as much of the stuff I've looked at on various area RCPM's seems oriented toward different (ie, more standard) machines. Anyone out there care to give me a hand and point me in the right direction? I have the PCPI/Z3 library, which contains stuff necessary for installation, but what else do I need? Also, I have a Sider 10 meg hard disk; does this make a difference? Any help provided will be appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Joe Loda Analysts International (Chicago Branch) (312) 882-4673 ..!ihnp4!aicchi!joeloda 20-Feb-86 06:53:41-MST,5621;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 20 Feb 86 06:53:23-MST Received: from simtel20.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a016782; 20 Feb 86 7:50 EST Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1986 05:50 MST Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@SIMTEL20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: Hitachi HD64180 - Zilog Z80 compatibility bug Forwarded from the RCP/M Sysop Clearinghouse... --cut here--HD64180.BUG--cut here-- Last update: 02/09/86 HD64180.BUG V 1.0 I believe the following section was written by: WA7GXD (See Gateway Vol 2, No 11. Jan. 24, 1986) If you are planning on using a Hitachi HD64180 (guess you have to use Hitachi if you plan on using a 64180...) please note that it is not directly compatible with Z80 (tm) style peripheral ICs when using the Mode 2 interrupt scheme. I know; I found out the hard, expensive way. I have designed a packet switch for Amateur packet radio usage that is based on the 64180, a PIO, a pair of SIO/2s and the NCR5380 SCSI chip. It also has 16 bytewide sockets and screws on the side of a 5.25" floppy disk controller. It is on a 4-layer board and we had prototype boards made (compiled is the nearest software equivalent...). During final hardware debug testing, mode 2 interrupts were switched on. The peripheral would service exactly 1 interrupt, then lock its IEO line low and stay that way until power off/power on reset was accomplished! It turns out that the timing of the LIR* output from the 64180 needs to be delayed (undocumented requirement of the Z80 (tm) peripherals!). Hitachi has a simple circuit to accomplish this if you happen to have the spare flip flop and OR gate floating around on your board. I didn't and simply redesigned the wait-state generator to accomplish the same thing. Now Mode 2 works just fine. The following section is by: KA8BMT Reference: Hitachi HD64180 8-Bit High Integration CMOS Microprocessor Data Book [January, 1985 #U77] PG 27: I/O ADDRESSING NOTES: "The on-chip I/O register addresses are located in the I/O address space from 0000H to 00FFH (16-bit I/O addresses)." [A note under figure 2.2.5 on page 15: 'NOTE: A16-A18 = 0 for I/O cycles'.] "Thus, to access the on-chip I/O registers (using I/O instructions)," [Is there some other way to access these registers, besides I/O instructions? IOE* and ME* would determine whether it is I/O or MEmory, so what does the last part of the previous paragraph mean?] "the high-order 8 bits of the 16-bit I/O address must be 0." "The conventional I/O instructions (OUT (m),A / IN A,(m) / OUTI / INI / etc.) Place the contents of a CPU register," [The "B" register, this is because of the way the Z-80 (tm) handles the "IN g,(C)" and the "OUT (C),g" instructions. This means that you could design a Z-80 circuit that could have more than 256 I/O address, by using the "B" register as part of the I/O address. This could also means that if your I/O address decoder does not properly account for the A8 - A15 address lines you may not get the I/O address you want.] "on the high-order 8 bits of the address bus, and thus may be difficult to use for accessing on chip I/O registers." "For efficient on-chip I/O registers access, a number of new instructions have been added which force the high-order 8 bits of the 16-bit I/O address to 0. These instructions are IN0, OUT0, OTIM, OTIMR, OTDM, OTDMR and TSTIO (See section 3.1 Instructions set)." [Unfortunitly the instructions described in the last paragraph would not be Z-80 compatible, if that is of any consideration. A possible solution would be to zero the "B" register of the 64180 or the Z-80 before doing any I/O instructions, however this may not be possible {if the "B" register is being used} or practical in all cases.] "Note that when writing to an internal I/O register, the same I/O write occurs on the external bus. However, the duplicate external I/O write cycle will exhibit internal I/O write cycle timing. For example, the WAIT* input and the programmable wait state generator are ignored." [This could conceivably cause some slow peripherals to 'go out to lunch'.] "Similarly, internal I/O read cycles also cause a duplicate external I/O read cycle - however, the external read data is ignored by the HD64180." "Normally, external I/O addresses should be chosen to avoid overlap with internal I/O addresses to avoid duplicate I/O accesses." Several places Hitachi states that the HD64180 can directly address 64K of I/O address [which it can in hardward] (pages 2, 5, 15, 51 and others), however it does not tell how to do it in software. Is there some way besides doing tricks with "B", DMA or I/O block instructions, that I missed, to address more than 256 I/O locations? (Such as "OUT (1234H),reg" or "IN reg,(1234H)".) 20-Feb-86 07:04:29-MST,1741;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 20 Feb 86 07:04:21-MST Received: from usc-isif.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a017824; 20 Feb 86 8:21 EST Date: 20 Feb 1986 05:18-PST Sender: STANLEY@USC-ISIF.ARPA Subject: ZCPR3 STARTUP From: STANLEY@USC-ISIF.ARPA To: rconn@SIMTEL20.ARPA Cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <[USC-ISIF.ARPA]20-Feb-86 05:18:11.STANLEY> Rick: After much experimenting, I have gotten ZCPR3 up and running on my H89, using a BIOS mod written by Jerry Furst. One problem, however: 1. ZCPR3 (correctly) expects to find STARTUP.COM and tries to run it on cold boot. 2. I created STARTUP.COM using ALIAS, consisting only of the LDR commands needed to load the system segments. 3. When ZCPR3 tries to run this ALIAS, it returns either an "Ovfl" error, or it fills the Shell Stack. (Didn't think ALIAS used the Shell Stack!) 4. If I run the same ALIAS (STARTUP) from the ZCPR3 prompt, it works fine. I spoke with Jerry Furst, the BIOS mod author, and he reported that he had the same problem. He was able to work around only by using the ZCPR2 STARTUP.COM program. The STARTUP feature is important to making these systems turn-key for users. I can only figure that something is going wrong in trying to load the system segments. Help, please. What's happening here? Has this affected anyone else? How do I fix it? Once I get this licked, I'll upload Jerry's auto-install ZCPR3 files for the H89 with this fix included. He has done a nice job, and you can install ZCPR3 from scratch on an H89 in about 75 minutes without a hitch. Thanks in advance. ...Dick Stanley stanley@isif 20-Feb-86 10:10:15-MST,1745;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 20 Feb 86 10:10:02-MST Received: from brl-smoke.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a024599; 20 Feb 86 11:19 EST Received: from USENET by SMOKE.BRL.ARPA id a009667; 20 Feb 86 11:05 EST From: Andrew Scott Beals Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: have an Osborne-1, would like to make it useful Message-ID: <158@lll-lcc.UUcp> Date: 18 Feb 86 21:01:52 GMT Keywords: DD upgrade, broken ROMs, bios code on disk, ?? To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Hi folks. I have a very very old (brown case) Osborne 1 that I'd like to get some use out of. I just recently dusted the little bugger off and put in a new power supply (AGAIN!), and I have a few questions. Re: double density upgrade Which one should I use? I can go to The Valley and get myself an Osborne made (and designed? uh oh!) upgrade. However, I have seen ads from a Texas firm that sells a DD upgrade. Does anyone know about it? Re: buggy rom software / bios source on disk? In the version that I have (1.43? 1.36? can't remember now), the ROM software was written by someone who didn't know CP/M coding conventions (CP/M is an 8080 operating system, therefore the z80 registers are sacred and are not to be clobbered), so I can't use things like Turbo Pascal or TLC Lisp. Sniff sniff. Is there an upgrade that I can get that will fix the roms? Does anyone have the BIOS source code on disk? One could patch around the rom brokenness that way... thanks muchly! -- Gee, usenet is almost as fast as US mail! andy beals bandy@lll-crg.arpa {ihnp4,seismo,qantel,sun}!lll-crg!bandy LLNL, P.O. Box 808, L-419, Livermore CA 94550 (415) 423-1948 20-Feb-86 10:35:35-MST,1050;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 20 Feb 86 10:35:19-MST Received: from brl-smoke.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a025714; 20 Feb 86 11:54 EST Received: from USENET by SMOKE.BRL.ARPA id a010855; 20 Feb 86 11:39 EST From: Shel Talmy Newsgroups: net.micro,net.micro.cpm,net.micro.pc,net.wanted,na.forsale Subject: Wanted--CompuPro system Message-ID: <36@randvax.UUCP> Date: 15 Feb 86 21:18:23 GMT Xref: seismo net.micro:14566 net.micro.cpm:5618 net.micro.pc:7532 net.wanted:8799 na.forsale:479 To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA I'm in the market for a CompuPro system that is already set up for multi users, although I do not require the extra terminals. I'd be interested in hearing from anyone with such a system for sale. Note, that I'm not being specific about the other boards' this system should contain. My needs are flexible and I will be happy to hear what boards are already included in the system. Please respond via e-mail. thank you. 20-Feb-86 11:00:16-MST,1169;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 20 Feb 86 10:59:59-MST Received: from brl-smoke.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id aa25714; 20 Feb 86 11:54 EST Received: from USENET by SMOKE.BRL.ARPA id a010894; 20 Feb 86 11:40 EST From: Daniel P Faigin Newsgroups: net.wanted.sources,net.micro.cpm Subject: Need File Transfer Pkg CPM/86<-->BSD 4.2 Message-ID: <2629@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Date: 17 Feb 86 19:02:42 GMT Xref: seismo net.wanted.sources:2048 net.micro.cpm:5619 To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA I am looking for a file transfer package -- on the order of an xmodem or kermit type -- that can be used to transfer files from a CPM/86 machine to a Unix machine, specifically BSD 4.2 Unix. Please send any information VIA MAIL to me at the addresses below: Thanks, Daniel Faigin -- UUCP: {akgua allegra ihnp4 hplabs sdcsvax trwrb cbosgd}!sdcrdcf!faigin ARPA: sdcrdcf!faigin@UCLA-LOCUS.ARPA --or-- sdcrdcf!faigin@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU W: SDC, 2525 Colorado MD 91-01; Santa Monica CA 90406; (213) 820-4111 x6393 H: 11743 Darlington Avenue #9; Los Angeles CA 90049; (213) 826-3357 20-Feb-86 16:32:34-MST,925;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 20 Feb 86 16:32:24-MST Received: from mitre.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a007625; 20 Feb 86 18:00 EST Full-Name: Jeff Edelheit Message-Id: <8602202047.AA11926@mitre.ARPA> Organization: The MITRE Corp., Washington, D.C. To: Daniel P Faigin Cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: Re: Need File Transfer Pkg CPM/86<-->BSD 4.2 In-Reply-To: Your message of 17 Feb 86 19:02:42 GMT. <2629@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Date: 20 Feb 86 15:47:51 EST (Thu) From: Jeff Edelheit Daniel - We use KERMIT between a number of PCs (CP/M, DOS, Macs) and number of UNIX, VMS and VM/CMS machines. We even use it between hosts. It works very well, is dependable, and supports the largest # of hosts/PC's that I have seen. I highly recommend it. Regards, Jeff Edelheit (edelheit@mitre) 21-Feb-86 06:31:06-MST,2378;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 21 Feb 86 06:30:54-MST Received: from rand-unix.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a008321; 20 Feb 86 23:32 EST Return-Path: Received: by rand-unix.ARPA; Thu, 20 Feb 86 14:03:59 pst From: Chris McMenomy Message-Id: <8602202203.AA10556@rand-unix.ARPA> Date: 20 Feb 86 14:03:54 PST (Thu) To: Andrew Scott Beals Cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA, christe@RAND-UNIX.ARPA Subject: Re: have an Osborne-1, would like to make it useful In-Reply-To: Your message of 18 Feb 86 21:01:52 GMT. <158@lll-lcc.UUcp> We ordered and installed the Nuevo Double Density upgrade (that's the firm in Texas you're thinking about) on our brown case Osborne I in August, 1984. It took us about three hours, the first to get our courage up to open the case--between the two of us we have about as much electronic/mechanical/electrical engineering experience as a sixties' sitcom housewife--and the last because we misread the instructions, which were perfectly clear, supplemented with photos. If we can do it, you can. Cost then was around $150, and we figured at the rate we were buying disks, DD capability alone would pay for itself in six months (it did). Besides making 184K available instead of 92K, it also stores data in 1K (rather than 2K) blocks, so there is less wasted space. I am not a hardware expert, so I can't give you a detailed analysis of performance, but since we installed it we haven't had any cause to worry about it, and we use our O1 heavily--4 hours a day or so, for text processing and programming. The DD upgrade kit includes the Osborne ROM version 1.5 which uses the BIOS correctly. There are instructions for modifying the system tracks to use the new ROM and DD code (but be careful: it is done using a SETUP file and it takes longer than you think to finish; if it doesn't finish, it won't work on the new ROM, and you'll have to put the old ROM back in and start over). Once installed, the Nueveo-supplied ROM is all you need to run Borland's Turbo Pascal (which we use a lot). I can't answer for TLC Lisp because we don't have it, but if all it requires is a 1.5 revision, you should be set. Good Luck! Christe McMenomy Rand Corporation christe@rand-unix 21-Feb-86 09:46:14-MST,929;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 21 Feb 86 09:45:03-MST Received: from cmu-cs-a.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a016898; 21 Feb 86 11:18 EST Date: Fri, 21 Feb 86 11:12 EST From: Paul.Birkel@cmu-cs-a.ARPA To: robertj%tektronix.uucp@BRL.ARPA Subject: Morrow MD2 upgrade and Users Group? CC: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-Id: <21Feb86.111215.PB80@A.CS.CMU.EDU> I recently posted to the net about my interest in upgrading a Morrow MD2 from SSDD to DSDD. I received no replies! Now there must be some Morrow MD2 people out there. And some of you must have considered this problem! At least there must be a MD users group. Somewhere. 'Fess up folks. Someone must be able to offer a little help, or a single pointer. Please. As I am now on the mailing list you may reply to the net, or directly to me as seems appropriate. Thanks, paul.birkel@A.CS.CMU.EDU 21-Feb-86 11:19:13-MST,2928;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 21 Feb 86 11:18:57-MST Received: from usc-isif.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a018765; 21 Feb 86 12:46 EST Date: 21 Feb 1986 09:46-PST Sender: STANLEY@USC-ISIF.ARPA Subject: Re: have an Osborne-1, would like to make it useful From: STANLEY@USC-ISIF.ARPA To: bandy%lll-lcc.uucp@BRL.ARPA Cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <[USC-ISIF.ARPA]21-Feb-86 09:46:06.STANLEY> In-Reply-To: <158@lll-lcc.UUcp> Received: FROM USC-ECLB.ARPA BY USC-ISIF.ARPA WITH TCP ; 20 Feb 86 09:23:44 PST from AMSAA.ARPA by USC-ECLB.ARPA; Thu 20 Feb 86 09:21:17-PST from brl-smoke.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a024599; 20 Feb 86 11:19 EST from USENET by SMOKE.BRL.ARPA id a009667; 20 Feb 86 11:05 EST Date: 18 Feb 86 21:01:52 GMT From: Andrew Scott Beals To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: have an Osborne-1, would like to make it useful Keywords: DD upgrade, broken ROMs, bios code on disk, ?? Return-Path: <@USC-ECLB.ARPA:info-cpm-request@AMSAA> Message-ID: <158@lll-lcc.UUcp> Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Hi folks. I have a very very old (brown case) Osborne 1 that I'd like to get some use out of. I just recently dusted the little bugger off and put in a new power supply (AGAIN!), and I have a few questions. Re: double density upgrade Which one should I use? I can go to The Valley and get myself an Osborne made (and designed? uh oh!) upgrade. However, I have seen ads from a Texas firm that sells a DD upgrade. Does anyone know about it? Re: buggy rom software / bios source on disk? In the version that I have (1.43? 1.36? can't remember now), the ROM software was written by someone who didn't know CP/M coding conventions (CP/M is an 8080 operating system, therefore the z80 registers are sacred and are not to be clobbered), so I can't use things like Turbo Pascal or TLC Lisp. Sniff sniff. Is there an upgrade that I can get that will fix the roms? Does anyone have the BIOS source code on disk? One could patch around the rom brokenness that way... thanks muchly! -- Gee, usenet is almost as fast as US mail! andy beals bandy@lll-crg.arpa {ihnp4,seismo,qantel,sun}!lll-crg!bandy LLNL, P.O. Box 808, L-419, Livermore CA 94550 (415) 423-1948 -------------------- Andy, I have a blue-case Ozzie with the Osborne double density board, and it works just fine. I understand that some of them have trouble with single-density disks, but mine doesn't. Have no first hand knowledge of Nuevo (that outfit in Texas) products, but everyone I have heard of with their stuff raves about the product and the service. Probably a safe try. ...Dick Stanley 21-Feb-86 13:06:45-MST,1518;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 21 Feb 86 13:06:36-MST Received: from xerox.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a021486; 21 Feb 86 13:56 EST Received: from PinotNoir.ms by ArpaGateway.ms ; 21 FEB 86 09:36:11 PST Date: 21 Feb 86 09:04 PST From: Ghenis.pasa@xerox.ARPA Subject: Re: have an Osborne-1, would like to make it useful In-reply-to: Andrew Scott Beals 's message of 18 Feb 86 21:01:52 GMT To: bandy%lll-lcc.uucp@BRL.ARPA cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <860221-093611-4977@Xerox> Besides the Osborne DD upgrade, Nuevo Electronics has a proven one too. Stay away from anything made by a company called Osmosis, they are famous for their lemons. Your DD upgrade should come with a new ROM since the old one doesn't know about DD, so that solves your other problem. I have the Nuevo DD upgrade and BIOS in my O-1 (a blue case model) and Turbo Pascal runs just fine on it. Make sure you tell them you have an older model Osborne, the upgrade is different for it. By the way, you would do well to get in touch with your local Osborne users' group; now that Osborne has gone under that may be your only resource for the machine. Also becoming a member of FOG (First Osborne Group) is very worthwhile. If you can't find a local group send me a message, I might be able to help. Enjoy! Pablo Ghenis, Secretary, Osborne Komputer Owners' Klub (OKOK) arpa: ghenis.pasa@xerox.com Compuserve: 1072,70406 23-Feb-86 15:29:31-MST,3802;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 23 Feb 86 15:29:18-MST Received: from sri-spam.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a004249; 22 Feb 86 1:34 EST Received: by sri-spam.arpa (5.5/4.16) id AA10944; Fri, 21 Feb 86 16:51:14 PST Date: Fri, 21 Feb 86 16:51:14 PST From: Steve Minar Message-Id: <8602220051.AA10944@sri-spam.arpa> To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: SAGE II 68000 Microcomputer FOR SALE! * SAGE II 68000 based Microcomputer, C, Pascal, FORTRAN 77, Modula 2, and BASIC Compilers. Lisp interpreter. 68000 Assembler. UCSD P-System, CPM-68K, and Modula II Operating Systems. Tons of software included. Fast! More complete discription follows. $2500. or best offer. Must Sell. Steve Minar SRI International 333 Ravenswood Ave. Menlo Park, CA. 94025 (415) 859-3806 email: minar@sri-spam.arpa Are you looking for a personal/business computer with engineering speed? You owe it to yourself to consider my SAGE II. The SAGE II performs faster than a VAX 730 and almost as fast as a VAX 750 on non-floating point benchmarks. It compiles Pascal code at 2000 lines per minute. An excellent choice for the student who hates the school computer center, or for the person interested in starting his own software development company. Two UNIX implementations are available. Hardware -------- SAGE II 68000 running at 8Mhz, no wait states. Two RS232 ports - for multiuser operation or modem. 1 Centronics parallel port. 2 half-height floppies, configurable from 640K to 800K storage each. (The floppies are very fast - faster than some apple hard discs) 512 K of RAM (TI4164 150NS chips) - Can be increased to 2M Ram. Software that comes with system: ------------------------------- Ram Disk Multi-User Bootstrap P-system operating system Pascal Fortran Basic Assembly Machine Code compiler for Pascal Screen Editor Tons of Utilities ASE - Advanced System Editor (Improved version of the Screen Editor) Modula-II Operating System Modula-II compiler Pascal Compiler Unix-like Shell Games CPM 68K Operating System SVS FORTRAN 77 Compiler SVS Pascal Compiler C Compiler (Digital Research's) MINCE (Emacs like screen editor) M)ince I)s N)ot C)omplete E)macs Timberline Spread Sheet Word 7 Word Processing Sprinter-2 Document Preparation - A Good Text Formatter Spell - Spelling Checker Aladin Data Base Management System AIP - Excellent communications program Allows you to easily connect to other computers using your SAGE as a terminal. Send Files (text) back and forth, Keep logs of host output, Work on two computers at the same time! GKS - Graphical Kernel System Level 0a GKS - provides the graphics capabilities needed to do sophisticated application programs. Conforms to the Pascal Binding of ANSI's Draft Standard. PROCHART - Professional Charts and Graphs package written on top of GKS, PROCHART produces excellent pie, bar, and line charts. Panel driven user interface, incredible selection of options, produces publishable quality pictures. (Note - GKS and PROCHART support the following graphics terminals Tek 4010/4014 Vectrix Envision HP Plotter Watenabee Plotter Lexidata ) PROTIME - Professional Time and Billing Timberline's Accounting Package Note: There are two Unix implementations running on the SAGE II - IDRIS by whitesmith's System V by AT&T IDRIS has a floppy version, System V doesn't, and both run much better using hard disks that are available. 23-Feb-86 15:29:45-MST,644;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 23 Feb 86 15:29:38-MST Received: from brl-aos.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a004836; 22 Feb 86 12:42 EST Received: from usc-eclb.arpa by AOS.BRL.ARPA id a003819; 22 Feb 86 12:32 EST Date: Sat 22 Feb 86 09:33:11-PST From: Dick Subject: XLISP12 Link info.. To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA Desires:"gag me with a Valley girl" (ohmigod!) Message-ID: <12185431279.37.MEAD@USC-ECLB.ARPA> Does anyone have the compile/link info for XLISP 1.2??? I particularly need the Link info as to what order and what modules go where.. ------- 23-Feb-86 15:30:01-MST,1143;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 23 Feb 86 15:29:53-MST Received: from brl-smoke.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a006855; 22 Feb 86 19:16 EST Received: from USENET by SMOKE.BRL.ARPA id a028098; 22 Feb 86 19:04 EST From: James Vienneau Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm,net.micro.apple Subject: Downloading from CP/M in Apple II Message-ID: <2c046b61.46b9@apollo.uucp> Date: 18 Feb 86 15:00:45 GMT Xref: seismo net.micro.cpm:5620 net.micro.apple:2755 To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA I have an Apple II+ with a CP/M card and am beginning to explore the world of public domain software. I have been using ASCII EXPRESS from DOS then transfering the files to CP/M format. The problem is this only works for text files. My question is: are there public domain packages that allow downloading direct from CP/M for the Apple? Is there some way to get a copy on disk? I'll bet one or two exist in some of the databases I know, but if I can't download them...... -Any help will be appreciated- 24-Feb-86 13:27:46-MST,664;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 24 Feb 86 13:27:38-MST Received: from 128.2.255.254 by AMSAA.ARPA id a000199; 24 Feb 86 11:52 EST Received: ID ; Mon 24 Feb 86 11:54:29-EST Date: Mon 24 Feb 86 11:54:28-EST From: Thomas.Finholt@cmu-cs-c.ARPA Subject: TRS Model 100 --> Kaypro II To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <12185948517.27.FINHOLT@C.CS.CMU.EDU> I am interested in software that will allow me to use the disk drives on the Kaypro II as remote disks for a TRS Model 100 portable computer. Please reply directly to: Finholt@c.cs.cmu.edu Thanks ------- 24-Feb-86 19:52:17-MST,2097;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 24 Feb 86 19:51:56-MST Received: from xerox.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a012819; 24 Feb 86 21:19 EST Received: from Aurora.ms by ArpaGateway.ms ; 24 FEB 86 17:49:47 PST From: NBaheti.es@xerox.ARPA Date: 24 Feb 86 20:49:40 EST Subject: Apple MEX help To: info-apple@mit-xx.ARPA cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <860224-174947-3021@Xerox> I am posting the following message for a friend who is having some troubles. If you want to respond via the Nets, feel free to do so to my account and I'll forward all replies to him within a day. I am not on info-apple, so please reply directly to me or cc me on your reply; thanks. --Arun Baheti arpa: NBaheti.es@Xerox.COM rcpm: 213-530-0670 ----------------------------------------------------------------- I am trying to put together a working MEX 1.14 for the following equipment and am getting nowhere. I can get the MEX to install properly, etc. but then when I get to terminal mode all I can get the system to do is give me the help menu (ESC+?) and exit to command mode (ESC-E). I can't get the modem to receive any data at all from the keyboard. I've tried everything (ie: switching slots, checking cards, power off, unplug, ad naseum in finium); anyone have any ideas? or better yet, a working copy of MEX 1.14 for the below system? Apple //e Apple SSC (dips set ON are: 24567 12345) in slot #2 Micro-Soft Premium Softcard //e in auxiliary slot Disk // controller card in slot #6 Sider 1 10M drive controller card in slot #7 I know the above will work somehow, since I have a MDM7 configured and working (taken off a local RCP/M). I need MEX so I can use the USR Courier 2400 at 2400 baud instead of 300/1200. If you can help out feel free to call me voice at 213-539-9395 or 530-0845 anytime after 2:00pm. Thanks in advance for your help. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Feb-86 08:33:51-MST,593;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 25 Feb 86 08:33:46-MST Received: from wiscvm.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a020946; 25 Feb 86 9:37 EST Received: from (INFOEARN)HLERUL5.BITNET by WISCVM.WISC.EDU on 02/25/86 at 08:35:20 CST Date: 25 FEB 86 15:26-N From: INFOEARN%HLERUL5.BITNET@wiscvm.ARPA To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: ACORN BBC Z80 Hi all Does anyone use an Acorn BBC model B with a Z80 for CP/M 2.2. Would like to hear from you out there. Thanks in advance Marc Arpanet: SINGPANG%HLERUL5.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA 25-Feb-86 09:59:26-MST,1370;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 25 Feb 86 09:59:13-MST Received: from acc.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a025902; 25 Feb 86 11:32 EST Date: 25 Feb 86 08:22:00 PST From: shawn@ACC.ARPA MMDF-Warning: Parse error in preceding line at AMSAA.ARPA Subject: re:M-100/KAYPRO connection To: info-cpm cc: shawn@ACC.ARPA Reply-To: shawn@ACC.ARPA MMDF-Warning: Parse error in preceding line at AMSAA.ARPA to: finholtAc.cs.cmu.edu(couldn't send to you so am posting) re: m-100/KAYPRO hookup There is a program called TERM that you should be able to use if you set the console up (CON:) to be the serial port (using CONFIG) also use CONFIG to set up the required baud-rate if different than "normal" (whatever that is). You should then be able to "run" the KAYPRO from the serial port. I don't know if this will allow binary transfers but should be OK for ASCII. There is also a users group for the M-100 users. The moderator is -drew- and the address is on the ARPA net (as well as some others) info-laptops-request@mit-oz the net itself is the same less -request. They have message and program archives, and seem very knowledgable. I hope this gets you what you need. I don't know why I couldn't get to your address but then I'm NOT a 'net person'. shawn@acc.arpa ------ 25-Feb-86 12:53:52-MST,5113;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 25 Feb 86 12:53:35-MST Received: from simtel20.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a002206; 25 Feb 86 14:02 EST Date: Tue 25 Feb 86 11:51:27-MST From: Rick Conn Subject: ZSYS Archive created To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA cc: info-micro@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <12186231958.7.RCONN@SIMTEL20.ARPA> A new archive on SIMTEL20 has been created for Z System (ZCPR3 and/or ZRDOS) users. It is called PD:. Documentation (PD:DIRLIST.DOC) follows. -- Rick Conn ----> DIRLIST.DOC <---- The following presents a summary of the directories in the Z System Repository on SIMTEL20. ===================================================================== PD: This is the top-level directory of the Z System archive on SIMTEL20. Under this directory are the subdirectories, referenced by "PD:, where "x" is a topical name, and the file ZSYS.CRCLST, which is a listing of all files in all subdirectories with their file sizes and CRC values, and the file ZSYS.USAGE, which shows the files ordered by frequency of access (popularity). ===================================================================== PD: This directory contains documentation on the Z System and other information files of interest to Z System users. It also contains the following files, which are created by the ZSYS CM System: DIRLIST.DOC -- listing of all directories under PD: ZSYS.DOC -- listing of all directories and contents under PD: ===================================================================== PD: This directory contains installation information on ZCPR3 and the Z System. This information includes: Echelon Documents and other text files Machine-specific installations in LBR files ===================================================================== PD: This directory contains new releases to the Z System (ZSYS) archives on SIMTEL20. New releases are posted to this directory and to their "home" directory, and they are removed from this directory after a minimum of two weeks. The purpose of this directory is to make it easier for the community to update their files. ===================================================================== PD: This directory contains the current version of SYSLIB, including all source code, HLP files, the SYSLIB.REL file, and related documentation files. Only files released by Echelon to the Z System User Community are stored here. The content of this library is fully documented in the book ZCPR3: The Libraries by Richard Conn Contact Echelon in order to obtain a copy. ===================================================================== PD: This directory contains the current version of VLIB, including all source code, HLP files, the VLIB.REL file, and related documentation files. Only files released by Echelon to the Z System User Community are stored here. The content of this library is fully documented in the book ZCPR3: The Libraries by Richard Conn Contact Echelon in order to obtain a copy. ===================================================================== PD: This directory contains all Echelon Z-News newsletters in squeezed form. These newsletters provide information on Z System bug reports, new software releases, applications notes, ZSIG (the public domain Z System library) software, and other information of interest to Z System users. A huge amount of useful information is stored in these newsletters. ===================================================================== PD: This directory contains the current version of Z3LIB, including all source code, HLP files, the Z3LIB.REL file, and related documentation files. Only files released by Echelon to the Z System User Community are stored here. The content of this library is fully documented in the book ZCPR3: The Libraries by Richard Conn Contact Echelon in order to obtain a copy. ===================================================================== PD: This directory contains the current versions of all ZCPR3 software released to the Z System user community by Echelon. Only software released by Echelon is stored here. This directory also contains source code (in squeezed form) and help files. The content of this directory is documented in: ZCPR3: The Manual by Richard Conn Contact Echelon in order to obtain copies of these documents. ===================================================================== PD: This directory contains software available from ZSIG, the Z System Interest Group. This is public domain or user-copyright software which is given to the public freely for non-commercial use. Source code may or may not be included in the releases. ------- 25-Feb-86 12:54:13-MST,5146;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 25 Feb 86 12:53:58-MST Received: from simtel20.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a002238; 25 Feb 86 14:03 EST Date: Tue 25 Feb 86 11:53:48-MST From: Rick Conn Subject: ZSIG (Z System Interest Group) To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA cc: info-micro@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <12186232386.7.RCONN@SIMTEL20.ARPA> ZSIG for Z System (ZCPR3 and/or ZRDOS) users has been formed. It is similar to SIG/M for CP/M users. PD: contains many programs and doc files from this user community. Details (PD:ZSIG.FILES) follow: -- Rick Conn Program: ACREATE Search : ACR*.* Author : Howard Cripe Z-News : 204 Summary: Creates an ALIAS COM file from a conventional text file. Eliminates the need to use an ALIAS generator, like ALIAS or VALIAS, in the creation of an ALIAS. Program: ARUNZ Search : ARUNZ*.* Author : Jay Sage Z-News : 304, 308 Summary: ALIAS processor in which a number of alias commands are stored as simple text in a file from which ARUNZ extracts its command lines and ALIAS definitions. Program: BALIAS Search : BAL*.* Author : Paul Pomerleau Z-News : 307, 308 Summary: ALIAS generator/editor. Program: COMP Search : COMP*.* Author : Dennis Wright Z-News : 307 Summary: Screen-oriented file comparison program which highlights differences between two files by using split-screen displays and reverse video. Not Yet Documented: CSHELLV1.LBR.1 10240(8) Program: FINDERR Search : FINDER*.* Author : Ted Emigh Z-News : 009, 209 Summary: Errors from transient programs, such as M80, are detected by running FINDERR after the transient is executed. FINDERR then sets the Z System flags. Program: HSH Search : HSH*.* Author : Michael Rubenstein Z-News : 307, 308, 403 Summary: History Shell, which maintains a history of the commands executed to date and allows the user to recall and edit previous commands. Program: LDSK Search : LDSK*.* Author : Wilson Bent Z-News : 307 Summary: Named-directory program which dynamically reassigns directory names based on zero-length files present in the target directories. Program: LRUNZ Search : LRUN*.* Author : ??? Z-News : 205 Summary: A Z System Extended Command Processor (ECP) which can execute COM files from a library. Not Yet Documented: LUP11.PQS.1 5248(8) Program: POKE&GO.DOC Search : POKE*.* Author : Bruce Morgen Z-News : 107, 301 Summary: Idea for how to make code modifications to running programs on the fly by patching the programs as they reside in memory and then reexecuting them. Program: QUEUE Search : QUEUE*.* Author : Dreas Nielsen Z-News : 203 Summary: File Queue Manager, which allows files to be selected and placed into a queue. This queue is then used as the source of input for a command stream. Not Yet Documented: RCPTRAPS.LBR.1 10624(8) Program: TALIAS Search : TAL*.* Author : ??? Z-News : 307 Summary: ALIAS generator/editor. Program: THELLO Search : THE*.* Author : Tiger Computing Z-News : 308 Summary: Othello game which is screen-oriented, using the Z System TCAP. Program: VALIAS Search : VAL*.* Author : Jay Sage Z-News : 301, 302, 308 Summary: Screen-oriented ALIAS generator with command editing. Program: VCED Search : VCED*.* Author : Paul Pomerleau Z-News : 307, 308 Summary: Screen-oriented command line editor which permits editing, executing, and recalling command lines. Uses Word Star cursor commands. Program: VERROR Search : VER*.* Author : Paul Pomerleau Z-News : 301, 308 Summary: Screen-oriented error handler which allows the user to edit erroneous commands and resubmit them. Program: VTYPE Search : VTY*.* Author : Dennis Wright Z-News : 207 Summary: VTYPE provides Bidirectional viewing of text files with highlighting. Commands include built-in help, forward/backward movement a line/screen at a time, jump to beginning/end of file, and text string search. Program: WMZ3PAT (WMPATCH) Search : WMZ3*.* Author : Dennis Wright Z-News : 104 Summary: Patch to Micropro's Word Master editor which causes Word Master to feed directly off the Z System TCAP. Loading a new TCAP, then, automatically causes the patched Word Master to run with the different terminal. Program: WSZ3PAT (WSPATCH) Search : WSZ3*.* Author : Dennis Wright Z-News : 104 Summary: Patch to Micropro's Word Star editor which causes Word Star to feed directly off the Z System TCAP. Loading a new TCAP, then, automaticlaly causes the patched Word Star to run with the different terminal. Not Yet Documented: Z3BYE.DQC.1 7936(8) Not Yet Documented: Z3EMX.LBR.1 3072(8) Not Yet Documented: Z3KEY12.LBR.1 35840(8) Not Yet Documented: Z3TURB.LBR.1 37120(8) Not Yet Documented: ZBYE.MQC.1 20096(8) Not Yet Documented: ZBYE11C.MQC.1 20096(8) Not Yet Documented: ZCUBE11.LBR.1 10112(8) Not Yet Documented: ZTP-INS2.LBR.1 30720(8) ------- 25-Feb-86 15:34:21-MST,2057;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 25 Feb 86 15:34:03-MST Received: from cmu-cs-k.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a010516; 25 Feb 86 17:01 EST Date: Tuesday, 25 February 1986 13:26:19 EST From: Paul.Birkel@cmu-cs-k.ARPA To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA cc: info-ibmpc@USC-ISIB.ARPA Message-ID: <1986.2.25.18.24.32.Paul.Birkel@k.cs.cmu.edu> Here's an interesting problem. I need to exchange files with an NBI Word Processing "machine". Don't ask me why anyone would actually buy one of these beasts instead of a CHEAPER (!) PC-AT or CP/M machine, but here's the situation. They have one or two 5 1/4 inch floppies, no hard disk, are probably 8 bit machines, and drive a multiple port letter-quality printer. We've been told that to connect another brand machine to one of the "extra" LQP ports will void the warrenty. Heaven forbid! The better solution would be able to read/write to NBI disks, if possible. Since there are the appropriate software packages to transfer between CP/M formats and PC-DOS formats, it would be nice to do the same with the NBI format. And seemingly reasonable, too. Although our current machine is a CP/M, we have access to a PC-AT as a potential intermediary. The question is, how to get from one of them to the NBI? Assuming that files are ASCII (am I assuming too much?), and that a standard floppy controller chip is used, this should be possible. Unfortunately, NBI has been very unhelpful (as you can gather from the above comment). I guess they just want to sell more of their machines rather than to talk with the rest of the world. Can anyone help me with additional information, technical data, a word of advice, solace? Also, if you know of any other forums than info-cpm and info-ibmpc in which such a question could be addressed would you please direct this message there? My sincere thanks. paul.birkel@A.CS.CMU.EDU (412) 268-3074 Carnegie-Mellon University Dept. of Computer Science Pittsburgh, PA 15213 25-Feb-86 20:18:56-MST,697;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 25 Feb 86 20:18:50-MST Received: from simtel20.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a011669; 25 Feb 86 21:27 EST Date: Tue 25 Feb 86 19:29:42-MST From: Rick Conn Subject: Libraries for Z System To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA cc: info-micro@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <12186315379.9.RCONN@SIMTEL20.ARPA> The files in PD:, PD:, and PD: are all new. These represent the latest, recent release of the libraries. My second book, ZCPR3: The Libraries, fully documents the contents of these libraries. The book is available now from Echelon. Rick ------- 25-Feb-86 23:53:52-MST,1076;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 25 Feb 86 23:53:43-MST Received: from cmu-cs-c.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a012222; 26 Feb 86 1:18 EST Received: ID ; Wed 26 Feb 86 00:53:10-EST Date: Wed 26 Feb 86 00:01:11-EST From: "Ralph W. Hyre, Jr." Subject: Need CP/M Kermit help To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA, info-kermit@cu20b.ARPA, info-apple@BRL-TGR.ARPA Work-phone: (412) CMU-BUGS Message-ID: <12186342958.11.RALPHW@C.CS.CMU.EDU> Here's my hardware configuration: 64K Apple ][+ w/ PCPI AppliCard (coprocessor card - not MicroSoft compat.) Prometheus VersaCard in slot 2 (6850-based serial port) Apple-Cat modem in slot 4 (w/212 card in slot 7) I need help getting a version of kermit running on my Apple CP/M system. Given my strange hardware configuration, I am momentarily restricted to what the built-in drivers provide me, and I'm not even sure that my CP/M boots up with a serial driver. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. - Ralph ------- 26-Feb-86 02:05:06-MST,2266;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 26 Feb 86 02:04:58-MST Received: from sdcsvax.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a012348; 26 Feb 86 3:17 EST Received: by sdcsvax.ucsd.edu (5.31/4.41) id AA28148; Wed, 26 Feb 86 00:20:32 PST hops=0 From: crash!kevinb%sdcsvax@sdcsvax.ARPA Message-Id: <8602260820.AA28148@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 86 22:52:52 PST To: sdcsvax!Info-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: CCS: Company going under?/info needed I am trying to get some docs on some S-100 boards made by California Computer Systems, of 250 Caribbean Drive, Sunnyvale, CA regarding some boards I bought to upgrade my venerable IMSAI system. When I tried to call them at (408) 734-5811, I got a Ma Bell "this # disconnected" message. Would anyone in the know please contact me at the below address and tell me if they moved or went belly-up? Any info would be appreciated. I am also looking for an overlay for MEX, MDM7xx, or any other programs available using the CCS 2719 2 serial / 2 parallel I/O board, and am looking for info on the CCS 2805 Terminator / Wallclock board, which I am planning on using in an RCP/M. If CCS still exists and I can get a valid phone number / address, I will be ordering the manual on the thing from them if available. One last thing; has anything special been done with a CCS 2810 & 2422 board combination? We down here are especially looking for interesting things done with the a custom BIOS, ie. CP/M 3+, banking, ZCPR or Z-DOS , and MP/M implementations. We are trying to do some interesting things with them, and would appreciate it if any help or programs were sent our way. We are planning to archive all info we get, and will be more than happy to retransmit as needed. Thanks, Kevin Belles Kevin Belles AVALON I 4037 34th Street, Ste 4 San Diego CA 92104 (619)282-5661 eves Kevin J. Belles - UUCP {sdcsvax,ihnp4!gould9,noscvax,cbosgd}!crash!kevinb ~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~~ - ARPA crash!kevinb@{ucsd,nosc}.ARPA Disclaimer: Anything I may say is my opinion, and does not reflect the company I keep. KjB 26-Feb-86 05:58:21-MST,1973;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 26 Feb 86 05:58:12-MST Received: from brl-smoke.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a013780; 26 Feb 86 7:23 EST Received: from USENET by SMOKE.BRL.ARPA id a016195; 26 Feb 86 7:11 EST From: Bart Weaver Newsgroups: na.forsale,net.micro.cpm Subject: For sale: Osborne, Alarm, TI-59 calculator Message-ID: <543@nsc-pdc.UUCP> Date: 19 Feb 86 18:08:56 GMT Xref: seismo na.forsale:486 net.micro.cpm:5624 To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA For Sale: - Osborne 1 computer (One disk drive is bad. It gets read errors when trying to read from it. It might just need alignment.) Service is available from Xerox. Including the following software: - C/80 2.0 - JRT Pascal 3.0 - DBASE II (no manual) - Spell - z8 xasm - Cross talk, micro link, public domain com. packages - Space pirates, portable soft games, public domain games - manuals I'm hoping to get $495 for it, or best offer. - Radio Shack Ultra Sonic Alarm "System" (Cat #49-300) It features: - Internal & external alarm - Remote switch - Entry delay - Connections for external 12v battery backup. - Coverage test switch - Like new condition I'm hoping to get $49 for it, or best offer. - TI-59 programmable calculator It features: - Magnetic card reader - Up to 100 data registers The more data space the less - Up to 960 program space program space and vice versa. - Lots of algebraic functions - Even a little rom type exchangeable cartridge - Manuals. I'm hoping to get $49 for it, or best offer. I'm willing to negotiate shipping charges. Call Bart @ (503) 629-4410 9-6 PST or (503) 645-0668 after 6 Email ihnp4!nsc!nsc-pdc!bart 26-Feb-86 06:50:01-MST,2513;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 26 Feb 86 06:49:51-MST Received: from mitre.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a014739; 26 Feb 86 8:05 EST Full-Name: Jeff Edelheit Message-Id: <8602261309.AA01968@mitre.ARPA> Organization: The MITRE Corp., Washington, D.C. To: paul.birkel@CMU-CS-K.ARPA Cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Cc: info-ibmpc@USC-ISIB.ARPA In-Reply-To: Your message of Tuesday, 25 February 1986 13:26:19 EST. <1986.2.25.18.24.32.Paul.Birkel@k.cs.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 86 08:09:15 -0500 From: Jeff Edelheit Paul - We use a lot of NBIs here. My first comment is that they do not talk very well to anything! There is a Canadian company (the name escapes me at the moment) that manufactures a box that hooks-up to your PC/AT. This box has, if I remember right, one 8" drive & one 5 1/4 drive. You put their conversion floppy into the AT and your source/destination floppies in and the conversion box attempts to translate from one wp disk to the other. It will also do a wp to ascii conversion. The big problem is that this box & software supposedly costs BIG $$$ ($7k+). For the money, though, it is supposed to work well. If you want to go that route, get back to me and I'll try to dig-up some details. The "cheap" way to go is to connect a pc to the NBI's serial port and "transmit" or "receive" documents from/to the NBI. We have found the fastest speed that really works is 4800 bps. Generally, the screen shows a loss of characters, but the characters really do show up. If you transfer a document from the NBI, anything that is underscored gets transferred as just the underscores. (It looks like NBI handles underscoring by typing the word, backspacing and underlining.) Our search for a file transfer protocol for the NBI was unsuccessful. BTW, the VT100 emulator for the NBI doesn't work if you try to use it going into a UNIX host and want to do vi. NBI's response was "Yes, we know of that problem; no, we're not going to fix it; and you should realize that our VT100 emulator doesn't do anything really sophisticated like true cursor addressing." One more thing. NBI makes a board for the PC that allows you to do NBI word processing on an IBM PC. Perhaps that will allow you to read NBI disks on the PC. Since I don't have one of those boards, I can't really tell you much. Maybe NBI can (ha!) Regards, Jeff Edelheit (edelheit@mitre) 26-Feb-86 10:07:04-MST,773;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 26 Feb 86 10:06:57-MST Received: from xerox.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a022458; 26 Feb 86 11:12 EST Received: from CheninBlanc.ms by ArpaGateway.ms ; 26 FEB 86 08:11:26 PST Date: Wed, 26 Feb 86 08:11 PST From: DGilbert.ES@xerox.ARPA Subject: Re: LACK OF MESSAGE FIELD In-reply-to: <8602261309.AA01968@mitre.ARPA> To: Jeff Edelheit cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA, info-ibmpc@USC-ISIB.ARPA Message-ID: <860226-081126-4469@Xerox> How do you send messages without a "Subject" field. I believe this is very "RUDE". I don't care to read half of your message to find out what it's about. Please include a message field from now on. Thanks. Doug. 26-Feb-86 10:35:40-MST,803;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 26 Feb 86 10:35:33-MST Received: from brl-smoke.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a023871; 26 Feb 86 11:58 EST Received: from USENET by SMOKE.BRL.ARPA id a024425; 26 Feb 86 11:41 EST From: Brian Houser Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: VT-100 emulator Message-ID: <9377@ritcv.UUCP> Date: 20 Feb 86 23:26:40 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Does anyone have a program or information on a program that will emulate a VT-100 or VT-52 on a Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 4P ? I am looking for something either public domain or reasonable in cost. Thanks in advance! Brian Reply to: UUCP: BKH8983@ritvp.uucp BITNET: BKH8983@ritvaxc.bitnet 26-Feb-86 10:55:36-MST,1179;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 26 Feb 86 10:55:29-MST Received: from acc.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a023907; 26 Feb 86 12:00 EST Date: 26 Feb 86 08:47:00 PST From: shawn@ACC.ARPA MMDF-Warning: Parse error in preceding line at AMSAA.ARPA Subject: correct address for info-laptops To: finholt cc: finholt@cmu-cs-c.ARPA, stanley@usc-isif.ARPA, stanley@usc-isif.ARPA, shawn@ACC.ARPA, info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Reply-To: shawn@ACC.ARPA MMDF-Warning: Parse error in preceding line at AMSAA.ARPA Well, to prove my point about NOT knowing the net schemes, I've mannaged to get the wrong address for the info-laptops group, OR they have changed their address? (but not likely) following are the addresses given for info-laptops by SRI-NIC in their files: The Net: INFO-LAPTOPS%MIT-OZ@MIT-MC.ARPA Requests to: INFO-LAPTOPS-REQUESTS%MIT-OZ@MIT-MC.ARPA Coordinator: Andrew Moore : T.MOORE%MIT-EECS@MIT-EDDIE.MIT.EDU Again, -drew- can point you to the archives for their messages and their programs. Sorry for the trouble. Hope this helps. shawn@acc.arpa ------ 27-Feb-86 00:21:29-MST,1548;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 27 Feb 86 00:21:23-MST Received: from simtel20.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a011249; 27 Feb 86 1:49 EST Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1986 23:51 MST Message-ID: From: "Frank J. Wancho" To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA, INFO-MICRO@BRL.ARPA Cc: INFO-IBMPC@USC-ISIB.ARPA, INFO-HZ100@RADC-TOPS20.ARPA Subject: More SIG/M and PC/BLUE volumes available SIG/M volumes 210 to 251 are now available in PD:. PD: and PD:SIGM.CRCLST have also been updated. PC/BLUE volumes 125 to 175 are now available in PD:. PD: and PD:PC-BLUE.CRCLST have also been updated. All files were uploaded using MEX for the SIG/M disks and MEX-PC for the PC/BLUE disks. Check your CRC values against our list in the *.CRCLST files. For the PC/BLUE files, use CRCK4.COM. The CRCs of the files in the PC-BLUE directories should match our values regardless of whether you use MODEM or KERMIT protocols to download the files. The CRCs of the ASCII files may not necessarily match, but should be correct copies nonetheless. If any files appear trashed, be sure to check the file type in the CRCLST file to make sure you are not trying to display a binary file as if it were ASCII, especially on other TOPS-20, TENEX, or ITS mainframes. If the file is truly trashed, please let me know and I will get correct copies re-uploaded. --Frank 27-Feb-86 07:54:47-MST,1798;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 27 Feb 86 07:54:17-MST Received: from usc-isif.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a016235; 27 Feb 86 9:08 EST Date: 27 Feb 1986 06:06-PST Sender: STANLEY@USC-ISIF.ARPA Subject: Re: zcpr3 startup alias From: STANLEY@USC-ISIF.ARPA To: SAGE@LL.ARPA Cc: stanley@USC-ISIF.ARPA, info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <[USC-ISIF.ARPA]27-Feb-86 06:06:17.STANLEY> In-Reply-To: }o Received: FROM LL.ARPA BY USC-ISIF.ARPA WITH TCP ; 20 Feb 86 12:59:17 PST Date: Thu 20 Feb 1986 15:57:56 EST From: To: stanley@usc-isif Cc: sage@ll Subject: zcpr3 startup alias Return-Path: Message-ID: I think your problem results from not properly initializing the environment descriptor during the BIOS coldboot. In order for an alias to run, it must be able to locate the multiple command line buffer. It gets this information from the environment descriptor. Your coldboot code is apparently putting the startup command into the multiple command line buffer, but it is not setting the address of the buffer into the location Z3ENV+18H. Good luck. Jay Sage (MIT Lincoln Lab, sysop Z-Node 3) -------------------- Jay, You were absolutely right. Thanks for the pointer. Adding the following code at the END of the initialization routine for Z3ENV makes it work right (8080 mnemonics): LXI H,Z3CL SHLD Z3ENV+18H I am posting this reply to the net because others have also indicated the same problem. Hope this helps. ...Dick Stanley (stanley@isif) 27-Feb-86 07:59:54-MST,2483;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 27 Feb 86 07:59:20-MST Received: from wiscvm.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a016276; 27 Feb 86 9:09 EST Received: from (INFOEARN)HLERUL5.BITNET by WISCVM.WISC.EDU on 02/27/86 at 08:09:41 CST Date: 27 FEB 86 11:52-N From: INFOEARN%HLERUL5.BITNET@wiscvm.ARPA To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: Roff4 problems / What is ZCPR ? Hello all, As a first time user of this user group I have a few questions: 1. I am using Roff4 1.60 written by E. Bergmann. Unfortunately I have a problem. From time to time I get the following error message: "STRLN3: weird character value .." (or something like that, can't remember now) This error occurs when I try to output various formulas like: x 1 1 1 1 e = 1 + -- + -- + ... + ------ + -- 2! 3! (n-1)! n! The definitions needed to output such a formula are very long: I use the following: .sc # e^+x^-=#1#+^(^+1^-^)--^)^-2!^+#+#^(^+1^)--^)^-3!^+ etc. This line expands to 1 + 1/2! + 1/3! on paper (I hope). I frequently need to build up 2 or 3-4 formulas after another (the definitions are very long, sometimes over 2 lines of 80 characters) seperated with some text. The formulas itself are formatted just fine; but the curious error "STRLN3" occurs when Roff4 wants to output a footer at the bottom of the text. I think Roff4 can't handle such long equations of over 2 lines and is going haywire. The funny thing is that if I delete one equation from the (problem) page, the error "STRLN3" doesn't occur. The deleted equation formatted in a separate file (containing just that equation) works fine also. But the moment I put the equation back in the original text, Roff4 refuses to work correctly. Can anyone help me ??? What is causing this problem ? How can you rectify it ? Are there more known problems with this version of Roff4? Any general information about Roff is welcome also. 2. What are the ZCPR2 and ZCPR3 systems? I want to implement it on the following system: Acorn BBC model B with Acorn Z80 second processor 64K RAM, 56K free 2 * 400 K disk drives The only assembler I have is the ASM assembler included in the CP/M 2.2 package. I believe you need the MAC assembler from DR to implement ZCPR?? Thanks in advance ..Marc Chang Sing Pang ARPANET: SINGPANG%HLERUL5.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA BITNET/EARN: SINGPANG@HLERUL5 27-Feb-86 09:02:20-MST,1115;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 27 Feb 86 09:02:13-MST Received: from brl-smoke.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a017139; 27 Feb 86 9:33 EST Received: from USENET by SMOKE.BRL.ARPA id a020801; 27 Feb 86 9:25 EST From: "Richard L. Klappal" Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: Re: Header file needed Message-ID: <353@chinet.UUCP> Date: 21 Feb 86 02:27:43 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA In article <997@brl-smoke.ARPA> STEVEH@MIT-MC.ARPA writes: >I pulled the XLISP 1.2 package down from Simtel tonight. However, when I >tried to compile it (BTW, does anyone have the COM file?) it asked for the >file "setjmp.h" when compiling with Aztec C. Does anyone know how to obtain >this file? It wasn't in the LBR file. > >Thanks Call Manx and order the upgrade. The latest version supports setjmp/longjmp as well as UNIX compatible IOCTL calls. Well worth the $100.00 Satisfied customer only, no connection with Manx. -- --- UUCP: ..!ihnp4!chinet!uklpl!rlk || MCIMail: rklappal || Compuserve: 74106,1021 --- 27-Feb-86 17:40:47-MST,2173;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 27 Feb 86 17:40:29-MST Received: from cisl-service-multics.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a008385; 27 Feb 86 19:06 EST Received: FROM HIS-PHOENIX-MULTICS.ARPA BY CISL-SERVICE-MULTICS.ARPA WITH dial; 27 FEB 1986 19:06:28 EST Date: Thu, 27 Feb 86 16:58 MST From: Jerry Crow Subject: RE: Morrow MD2 Reply-To: JCrow%PCO-Multics@CISL-SERVICE-MULTICS.ARPA To: Paul.Birkel@cmu-cs-a.ARPA cc: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <860227235847.387636@HIS-PHOENIX-MULTICS.ARPA> I'd like to do the same with the MD2; at least to get DSDD. That should just mean a new ROM if I stick to two drives; else some decoder logic changes. The M-C folks I talked to last week had never heard of such a thing. Of course the MD3 does just that. Question: Anyone done any sort of upgrade to a MD2? We have not upgraded MD2s per se, but we have added additional drives to an MD3 to bring the configuration up to a total of four drives (2 DS, 2 SS). This required only that several locations in the BIOS be patched; it did not require a ROM change. Note, however, that the MD3 ROM has a DS personality which is designed to permit the reading/writing of SS diskettes in the DS drives. The process is "automatic"; i.e., the ROM responds to the presence of SS diskettes without user intervention. I do not know whether a ROM change would be required to implement what you desire, but I suspect not. Our MD3s are running BIOS 3.1; the MD2s 2.3. Anyone have a Schematic for the MD2? Anyone be willing to copy their MD3 ROM and determine any wiring diferences with the MD2 (i.e. have a MD3 schematic?)? I believe that the Morrow Owners Review (MOG) offers a technical information manual on the Morrow CP/M machines. MOG is at P O Box 5437, Berkeley CA, 94705. MOG publishes a user oriented magazine of the same name which is a good source of info about the Morrows. 28-Feb-86 16:54:37-MST,812;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 28 Feb 86 16:54:24-MST Received: from edwards-2060.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a000188; 28 Feb 86 18:26 EST Date: Fri 28 Feb 86 15:29:50-PDT From: BUSSARD@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA Subject: cipher floppy tape To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA cc: bussard@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA Message-ID: <12187058145.19.BUSSARD@EDWARDS-2060.ARPA> This is to Stu Heiss (ihnp4!jpusa1!stu@seismo.css.gov). Got your message about the tape units, but have not been able to reach you direct net mail. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong, who knows. I can be reached at the following. Lewis Bussard work (805) 277-6988 home (805) 258-6902 This is in California. Sorry every one for sending personal mail across a BBoard. Buzz -------