1-Feb-89 01:42:02-MST,4142;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 1 Feb 89 01:31:01 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #29 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 1 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 29 Today's Topics: Adding a hard disk to your system db II books wanted Thanks!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 30 Jan 89 14:49:19 GMT From: mirror!ima!cfisun!lakart!dg@bu-cs.bu.edu (David Goodenough) Subject: Adding a hard disk to your system If anyone is contemplating adding an inexpensive hard disk to a floppy only CP/M system, they might want to consider the following. A company by the name of Advanced Concepts in Boca Raton, FL, provides a very good solution. All you have to do with one of their systems, is pull the Z80 out of your system, insert their daughterboard into the socket where it came from, and put the Z80 back in a socket on the daughter board. Then an installation program is provided that places a boot image on the hard disk, and you are all set. Your system boots initially from floppy, then by running the hard disk install program, the hard disk is brought on line. I have recently installed their system into my Televideo 803, and I can say the hardest part was opening the system to pull out the Z80. It is worth noting that if there is not enough space to take the daughter board inside, extension cables are available, so that the board can be placed outside your system enclosure. Their address is: Advanced Concepts 8926 South West 17th St. Boca Raton, FL 33433 +1 (407) 482-7302 Disclaimer: I have no connection with Advanced Concepts, I am just a satisfied customer. -- dg@lakart.UUCP - David Goodenough +---+ IHS | +-+-+ ....... !harvard!xait!lakart!dg +-+-+ | AKA: dg%lakart.uucp@xait.xerox.com +---+ ------------------------------ Date: Tuesday, 31 January 1989 07:32-MST From: Dick Dysart STEWS-TE-LG 6125 Subject: db II books wanted Since all of you have upgraded to dBase III, or dBase III+, or dBase IV, while I have not, yet, I am trying to locate some out of print (?) dBase II books. Specifically; dBase II User's Guide, by Adam B. Green, Advanced dBase II User's Guide, by Adam B. Green, and dBase II for Every Business, by Robert Byers. All were published by Ashton-Tate, way back when, in paper back. I have tried local sources, Dalton's and Waldenbooks, Books in Print, and Ashton-Tate. No luck.. Soooooo. If any one has one or more, AND is willing to part with one or more, please contact me .. Dick Dysart Rdysart@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil (505) 678-6125 work commercial 258-6125 work autovon (505) 523-4015 home commercial snail 2703 Topley Ave, Las Cruces, NM 88005 No gouging, please. New prices were 19.95 each.. Thanks, Dick.. ------------------------------ Date: Tue Jan 31 08:22:45 1989 From: rr2g@watt.acc.virginia.edu Subject: Thanks!!! Thanks to everyone who gave me the help I needed with mex. With everyone's help I have now downloaded the 1.14 version and also a couple of other files I wanted. Y'all are a godsend. Thanks again. Until my next problem . . . -- ============================================================================== # A day at work is not like a day in paradise !!! # # # # # Rhonda Ragland # University of Virginia # # Internet: rr2g@virginia.edu # Applied Mechanics Program # # Bitnet: rr2g@virginia.bitnet # Charlottesville, VA 22903 # # UUCP: ...!uunet!virginia!watt!rr2g # (804) 924-6265 # ============================================================================== ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 2-Feb-89 01:45:46-MST,3732;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 89 01:30:50 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #30 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 2 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 30 Today's Topics: Administrivia Amstrad User Groups need CP/M disc format info S-100 Memory card assistance ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1989 01:09 MST From: Keith Petersen Subject: Administrivia There have been increasing instances of Internet readers of Info-Cpm Digest using the "reply" function of their mail programs to post to this mailing list. The result is meaningless "Subject:" headers giving the Digest name and number instead of the real subject. Please make sure you have a meaningful subject line in the header. If you need an "undigestify" program to break the digest down into individual messages so you can "reply" to them, let me know. I have source code in "C" language available. I have been receiving messages intended for the mailing list. Make sure you use Info-Cpm@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL as the address, not the Info-Cpm-Request address. --Keith Petersen ------------------------------ Date: Tue 01 Feb 1989 10:34:06 EDT From: Subject: Amstrad User Groups Can anyone provide me with names and addresses of Amstrad users groups, especially those in Europe? (I already belong to Al Warsh's group in California.) Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jan 89 12:44:44 GMT From: njsmu!telesci!lunar!larry@princeton.edu Subject: need CP/M disc format info I need to exchange data with a CP/M computer by floppy. Assuming I can physically read/write the CP/M disc, I still need to read/write CP/M format. Can anybody tell me what the logical format of CP/M discs is? Larry Fenske lunar!larry ------------------------------ Date: 2 Feb 1989 00:05-CST From: SAC.CCSO-OLA@E.ISI.EDU Subject: S-100 Memory card assistance I'd like some technical assistance with a memory card I've acquired recently. It's an S-100 64K dynamic RAM board. According to the legend on the PC board, it was made by Measurement Systems and Controls, Inc. The model number is DMB 6400. The board has a copyright 1979. It has five different sets of DIP switches, lots of 4116 DRAMs, lots of TTL "glue", and three delay line looking thingies. I believe that this board was originally OEM marketed by Sigma Designs & installed in North Star Horizons, which is the installation I intend for the card. If this sounds familiar, then maybe you can help me. I would like to find somewhere technical documentation to enable me to set up and install the card in my N*. Setup instructions and schematics would be very nice. I'll gladly pay for duplication and postage. Failing that, instructions over the net would be just fine too. And, if that doesn't work out, an address or phone number to the manufacturer or Sigma Designs would suffice. Please....I'm beggin' ya... #8^) >JS< John L. Schuncke, JR. SSgt, USAF Command and Control Systems Office, Operating Locating "A" --> For now, SAC.CCSO-OLA@E.ISI.EDU --> Someday soon now, MAC_CCSOOLA@SACEMNET.ARPA Disclaimer: My boss doesn't know I'm doing this. Required cute saying: I don't do cute. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 3-Feb-89 01:51:22-MST,7358;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 3 Feb 89 01:30:18 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #31 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 3 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 31 Today's Topics: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #26 SUPERMICRO magazine What format is common for 3.5 inch CP/M disks? Z80/CPM Unix Cross Compiler needed - can you help? Z80 Co-processors ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Feb 89 23:30 EST From: Lewallen@DOCKMASTER.ARPA Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #26 To Rhonda, What you are looking for in terms of mex binary file transfers: after asking the bbs to send you the file, exit back to the command line (usually done with a j e) and then type r filename.typ. YOur computer will then start saying it is receiving a file like kermit does. when it is done, then type t and you will be talking with the bbs again. The help files you are looking for are on simtel20 and they are PD2: MEX-EASY.DZC AND MEXSTEPS.TQT. And don't feel bad. I cut my teeth on computer comm with bbs systems, but I was totally lost when I started on ftp and kermit about 5 months ago. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Feb 89 23:54:16 -0500 From: gonzalez@BBN.COM Subject: SUPERMICRO magazine I have just finished shuffling through the latest stack of "bingo cards", as we call those packets of business reply cards that magazines mail to their subscribers. One card that got my attention offers a free trial issue of a magazine called SUPERMICRO. It is described as a magazine devoted to VMEbus, Multibus I/II, STD bus and S-100 bus. It is coverage of the S-100 bus that is of interest to me. Has anyone subscribed or, at least, seen this magazine? I hesitate largely because the $24 annual rate is for four issues. A bit expensive for a few product announcements, don't you think? I would have posted this to the Zenith Z-100 group as well, but I haven't figured out their address (Usenet posting is a little awkward from this host). By the way, I have joined the Boston Computer Society, after an absence of several years that started with the demise of the OSI Users Group. Anyone remember Ohio Scientific? I still have my little C1P, which served as the testbed for many of my first digital projects. I digress. Anyway, I look forward to my first meeting with the CP/M subgroup, and Jay Sage. Among other things, I am hoping for pointers to any local surplus stores. -Jim. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Gonzalez AT&T: 617-873-2937 BBN Systems and Technologies Corp. ARPA: gonzalez@bbn.com Cambridge, Massachusetts UUCP: ...seismo!bbn!gonzalez ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 31 Jan 89 23:53:10 GMT From: mcvax!hp4nl!philmds!nlgvax!geertj@uunet.uu.net (Geert Jan de Groot) Subject: What format is common for 3.5 inch CP/M disks? Hello, Some time ago, I added a 3.5 inch drive to my home-brew CP/M system. After some testing, it works, so it's time to add the thing in the BIOS. I wonder if there is some standard for 3.5 inch (yes, I know, there is none officially, as my system uses yet-another-format on 5.25 inch :-), but would like to know if there is something spread like the OSBORNE-1 format, which seems to be a common standard on 5.25 inch. So, what format is common among 3.5 inch? I would like to know about physical sector size, sector numbers, soft/hardware skew, way of selecting the next track (next cylinder/other side/interleaved/...), DPB, and other things one needs when hacking the BIOS. Thanks in advance for any responses. Geert Jan -.-.- --... ...-- -.. . .--. . .---- .... --.. --. .-.-. Geert Jan de Groot, Email: geertj@nlgvax.pcg.philips.nl Philips Research Laboratories, Packet: PE1HZG @ PI8ZAA Project Centre Geldrop, AMPRNET: [44.137.24.3] Building XR, Room 15, Willem Alexanderlaan 7B, "When in doubt, 5664 AN Geldrop, The Netherlands. tune for minimum smoke phone: +31 40 892204 and then consult a reference" [Standard disclaimers apply] -(Found in a manual) ------------------------------ Date: 31 Jan 89 11:36:07 GMT From: mcvax!ukc!stl!stc!kings!russell@uunet.uu.net (Russell Brown) Subject: Z80/CPM Unix Cross Compiler needed - can you help? Can anyone help? I need a C Compiler to run on a (Sys V) Unix box that generates CPM format Z80 code. A PD offering would be really nice but a commercial alternative would be acceptable. Can anyone suggest anything? the alternative will be to buy a PC :-( Please reply by mail (to russell@kings.co.uk) as in the best traditions of the net I don't normally read comp.os.cpm. Many thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Russell Brown | Voice: +44 832 72224 | | Lady Lodge Systems | EMAIL: russell@kings.co.uk | | Chapel Row Cottage, Lutton | UUCP: mcvax!ukc!{stc,logitek}!\ | | Peterborough, PE8 5NE, England. | kings!russell | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Russell Brown | Voice: +44 832 72224 | | Lady Lodge Systems | EMAIL: russell@kings.co.uk | | Chapel Row Cottage, Lutton | UUCP: mcvax!ukc!{stc,logitek}!\ | | Peterborough, PE8 5NE, England. | kings!russell | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 89 09:49:51 PST From: rzh@freedom.llnl.gov (Roger H. Hanscom (415) 423-0441) Subject: Z80 Co-processors Does anybody out there have any experience with Z-80 co-processors of the type that plug into the PC buss?? I know that there are (were?) several on the market, and I remember seeing a review comparing some of them. As I remember the review found quite a disparity between them with respect to ease-of-use/quality, so I imagine it would be a good idea to check on this. I got a catalog in the mail last night from Central Computer Products. The co-processor that they carry is "UniDOS". It runs a Z-80 at 8 MHz. How do these things communicate with DOS over the buss? What is the software like? How does one run CP/M on the Z80, or is that done?? In other words, how does CP/M on the co-processor access the PC hardware (disks)?? The UniDOS device is on a half-card, and costs $175. Please don't suggest things like Z80MU or the V20 in 8080 emulation mode. I like Z80MU, however it is **VERY** slow. I don't really like the 8080 restriction of the V20 ... I run a **LOT** of Z80 code. Roger rzh%freedom.llnl.gov@lll-lcc.llnl.gov ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 4-Feb-89 01:45:59-MST,6461;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 4 Feb 89 01:30:45 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #32 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 4 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 32 Today's Topics: Amstrad user groups Quick reference list to SIMTEL20's MISC directories Quick reference to SIMTEL20's CP/M directories UniDos Coprocessor What format is common for 3.5 inch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu 03 Feb 1989 16:29:55 EDT From: Subject: Amstrad user groups Harry Stox asked me for the address of the Amstrad group in the US. Here is the information: Al Warsh Amstrad PCW Users SIG 2751 Reche Canyon Road Colton, CA 92324 -- Jay Sage ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1989 13:42 MST From: Keith Petersen Subject: Quick reference list to SIMTEL20's MISC directories Quick reference list to SIMTEL20's PD2: directories as of February 3, 1989 (where 'x' is one of the names below): BBS EPROM KA9Q-TCPIP PROTOCOLS TOPS-20 BBSLISTS GENIE MICROEMACS SQUPORT VAXVMS BIBLE GOULD-KERMIT MINIX SS-INFO X-10 BYTE GPCSC MODEMS STANDARDS ZMODEM CCMD HAMRADIO MSJ T20-SQUSQ CIS IBM-CMS PACKET TELEPHONE CONSUMERS IBM-VM PCPURSUIT TOPS-10 --Keith Petersen Maintainer of the CP/M & MSDOS archives at wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [26.0.0.74] DDN: w8sdz@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1989 13:37 MST From: Keith Petersen Subject: Quick reference to SIMTEL20's CP/M directories Quick reference list to SIMTEL20's PD2: directories as of Feburary 3, 1989 (where 'x' is one of the names below): 22RSX CB80 FILCPY MODEM2 SPREADSHEET 6502 CBIOS FILEDOCS MODEM7 SQUSQ AMETHYST CCP FILUTL MODULA2 STARTER-KIT AMPRO CIS FINANCE MSOFT SUBMIT APPLE CLOCK FORTH-83 NEWS SYSUTL ARC-LBR COBOL FORTRAN NSTAR TERM ASMUTL COMAL GENASM NUBYE TRS-80 ATARI COMND GENCOM OSBORN TURBODOS AZTEC-C CONIX GENDOC PACKET TURBODOS-SIGI BASIC CPM3 GENIE PARASOL TURBOM2 BBS CPM68K GRAPHICS PASCAL TURBOPAS BBSLISTS CPM86 HAMMING PASCAL-P TXTUTL BDOS CPMINFO HAMRADIO PBBS UZI BDSC-1 CPR86 HBBS PCPURSUIT VDOEDIT BDSC-2 CUG HDUTL PILOT80 VIS1050 BDSC-3 DATABASE HEATH PLOT33 VOICE BDSC-4 DATESTAMP HELP PM-NETWORK WSTAR BENCHMARK DBASEII HEX PPSPEL XCCP BKGROUNDER DEBUG IMP PROLOG XEROX BONDWELL DIRUTL INSIDCPM PUBKEY XLISP BSR-X10 DISASM KAYPRO PUBPATCH XMODEM BSTAM DISKPLOT KERMIT RBBS Z280 BYE3 DRACO LIST RBBS4 Z8EDEBUG BYE5 DSKBUF MACLIB RCPM ZCPR C DSKUTL MATH ROS ZCPR2 C128 EDITC80 MBBS SB180 ZCPR3 C64 EDITOR MEMTEST SCREENGEN ZCPR33 C80 EDUCATION MEX SMALLC21 ZCPRNEWS CALCULATOR EPSON MISC SORT ZMODEM CATLOG FAST2 MODEM SPELL --Keith Petersen Maintainer of the CP/M & MSDOS archives at wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [26.0.0.74] DDN: w8sdz@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz ------------------------------ Date: Thu 03 Feb 1989 15:38:33 EDT From: Subject: UniDos Coprocessor The UniDos Z80 coprocessor card is made by MicroSolutions, producer of the Uniform software product for handling foreign-format diskettes. I have their card and am extremely pleased with it. It seems to run all standard CP/M programs that I have thrown at it without problem and much faster than on any of my real CP/M machines. So far, however, I have not been able to get Z-System running on it. Even if the code would run, of course, there would be problems because of the fundamental differences in MS-DOS file structures (CP/M user numbers vs. DOS subdirectories). I also cannot tell you much about how it works. All I know is that while emulation is turned on, I can still do all of my DOS work just as before. They have a very good system for handling both DOS and CP/M applications transparently. -- Jay Sage ------------------------------ Date: 2 Feb 89 07:21:00 GMT From: mcvax!unido!nixpbe!ugun21!josef@uunet.uu.net Subject: What format is common for 3.5 inch In his note, Geert Jan de Groot (geertj@nlgvax.UUCP) writes: >I wonder if there is some standard for 3.5 inch (yes, I know, there >is none officially, as my system uses yet-another-format on 5.25 inch :-), >but would like to know if there is something spread like the OSBORNE-1 >format, which seems to be a common standard on 5.25 inch. On my SB180FX I use exactly the same format with 3.5 inch drives I use with 5.25 inch drives (the native SB180FX format: 788 KBytes, 40 Sectors per track). I can mail You any additional information (DPBs etc.) Josef Moellers paper mail: e-mail: c/o Nixdorf Computer AG USA: uunet!linus!nixbur!mollers.pad Abt. EG-3 !USA: mcvax!unido!nixpbe!mollers.pad Unterer Frankfurter Weg D-4790 Paderborn tel.: (+49) 5251 104691 Standard disclaimer: Blablabla opinion blablabla employer blablabla! ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 5-Feb-89 01:40:41-MST,5117;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 5 Feb 89 01:30:22 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #33 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 5 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 33 Today's Topics: Adding a hard disk to your system CP/M on the TRS80 Model II DIST-CPM FILES SUPERMICRO magazine ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 4 Feb 89 00:48:26 GMT From: caesar.usc.edu!mlinar@oberon.usc.edu (Mitch Mlinar) Subject: Adding a hard disk to your system In article <404@lakart.UUCP> dg@lakart.UUCP (David Goodenough) writes: >If anyone is contemplating adding an inexpensive hard disk to a floppy >only CP/M system, they might want to consider the following. A company >by the name of Advanced Concepts in Boca Raton, FL, provides a very >good solution. All you have to do with one of their systems, is pull >the Z80 out of your system, insert their daughterboard into the socket >where it came from, and put the Z80 back in a socket on the daughter >board. Then an installation program is provided that places a boot Another company has been selling a similar system for about 3 or 4 years now. Emerald Microware in Oregon at (503) 641-0347. Same deal with a Z80 host card and connected to WD card. Runs up to 2 64M hard drives off a single card. I don't remember the cost; in particular, the hard drive card side (not host adapter) varies depending on availability. -Mitch ------------------------------ Date: 1 Feb 89 18:59:42 GMT From: voder!pyramid!ncc!alberta!auvax!tech@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Loken) Subject: CP/M on the TRS80 Model II I received a note from someone who wanted the address of Trisoft. I mailed the address and as I promised if I didn't get a reply I would assume the message went poof. So here is Trisoft's address: TriSoft 1825 East 38-1/2 Street Austin, Texas 78722 (512)472-0744 (800)531-5170 CP/M for the Model II,12,16 comes in a floppy or hard drive version and supports SS and DS discs on all three machines with the access speed for each drive individually settable, nice for those of us who still have one of those old s-l-o-w Magnetic Periferals drives as well as some nice fast ones. Price: US$85.00 plus shipping ********* 73 ********** Richard Loken VE6BSV . **** .. **** Athabasca University .... **** Athabasca, Alberta Canada ..........**** alberta!auvax ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 89 22:33:00 CST From: CHWEST@UALR Subject: DIST-CPM FILES - - The original note follows - - Anyone using a Vax with kermit download that has figured how to get files from DIST-CPM i get the files received here but once copied to my acct and downloaded they are trashed. tdir.pqs for instance would not unsqueeze here at home. i am using kermit40 for the kaypro. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance chwest@ualr.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 89 03:46:37 GMT From: mcmi!hdr!unocss!mlewis@uunet.uu.net (Marcus S. Lewis) Subject: SUPERMICRO magazine In article <8902030459.AA05706@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, gonzalez@BBN.COM writes: ..... > issue of a magazine called SUPERMICRO. It is described as a magazine > devoted to VMEbus, Multibus I/II, STD bus and S-100 bus. It is coverage > of the S-100 bus that is of interest to me. Has anyone subscribed or, > at least, seen this magazine? I hesitate largely because the $24 annual > rate is for four issues. A bit expensive for a few product announcements, > don't you think? Expensive it is. I have issues 2,3,4 of S-100 Journal, and issue 1 of Supermicro, which is what they have become. There is apparently not enough support for S-100 systems out there. As S-100 Journal, they carried articles on HOW_TO_BUILD (a) a 1-Mb Static Ram Board (with schematics), a four-port serial I/O board, with schematics, a Clock/claendar board, with schematics. I rather doubt that as SUPERMICRO they will have such well-done articles, since the real bux are in VME, but there were no articles as yet. Yes, they have a LARGE section on product announcements. For software, they heavily favor Concurrent CP/M and CRDOS (Cromemco's OS), with an occasional mention of MS-DOS. They don't as a rule favor MS-DOS, but do accept the necessity of using it on a 286/Z80 board, for instance. There was a damning review of a 386 S-100 board in the latest issue, concluding that it wasn't worth the cost, unless you happen to run the two or three programs the board was tested with and ran. They are trying, give 'em a chance. FAR better than Byte has been in the last 8 years. So far. Marc Lewis - A Z-100 owner - ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 6-Feb-89 01:34:55-MST,6557;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 6 Feb 89 01:30:11 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #34 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 6 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 34 Today's Topics: Adding a hard disk to your system RCP/M Royal Oak is back on-line! Supermicro magazine ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 3 Feb 89 17:55:39 GMT From: hpda!hpwala!cfisun!lakart!dg@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (David Goodenough) Subject: Adding a hard disk to your system From article <2101@sigma.UUCP>, by bill@sigma.UUCP (William Swan): > In article <404@lakart.UUCP> dg@lakart.UUCP (David Goodenough) writes: >>If anyone is contemplating adding an inexpensive hard disk to a floppy >>only CP/M system, they might want to consider the following. >>[..daughterboard into the Z80 socket...] > > One question, though: What does it cost? I bought just the controller card and cables and software for about $200 If you add a hard disk, a powersupply and enclosure, I'd guess that the cost would rise to no more than $500, possibly less. I don't actually know, because I wasn't interested in a PSU or a disk (I already had both). I'd say give them a call, or write. If you DO phone, don't be put off if it sounds like a private residence, it's a small company, and I think they don't have a proper switchboard operator. Whoever can get it answers the phone. -- dg@lakart.UUCP - David Goodenough +---+ IHS | +-+-+ ....... !harvard!xait!lakart!dg +-+-+ | AKA: dg%lakart.uucp@xait.xerox.com +---+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1989 01:19 MST From: Keith Petersen Subject: RCP/M Royal Oak is back on-line! The hard disk is repaired, reformatted, files restored, and RCP/M Royal Oak is now back on-line. Thanks for your continued support. Bob Clyne and I intend to add some more nodes to the system and to install a Detroit phone number so we can again be reached by PC Pursuit or Starlink. We now have the hardware to add 2 more nodes if support continues (phone lines are not cheap). For new Info-Cpm readers: RCP/M Royal Oak carries many of the same CP/M files that are available from Simtel20. The system has 64 megabytes of on-line storage, partitioned into ten logical drives. --Keith Petersen Maintainer of the CP/M & MSDOS archives at wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [26.0.0.74] DDN: w8sdz@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz GEnie: W8SDZ RCP/M Royal Oak: 313-759-6569 - 300, 1200, 2400 (V.22bis) or 9600 (USR HST) ------------------------------ Date: 5 FEB 89 12:58- From: RALPH%UHHEPG.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Subject: Supermicro magazine Date: 5-FEB-1989 12:30:18.72 From: Ralph Becker-Szendy RALPH AT UHHEPG To: 0::"info-cpm@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil" Subj: Re: Supermicro magazine writes: >... One card that got my attention offers a free trial issue of a magazine >called SUPERMICRO. It is described as a magazine devoted to VMEbus, Multibus >I/II, STD bus and S-100 bus. It is coverage of the S-100 bus that is of >interest to me. Has anyone subscribed or, at least, seen this magazine? I >hesitate largely because the $24 annual rate is for four issues. A bit >expensive for a few product announcements, don't you think? ... Yes, I subscribed to it for two or three issues, about a year ago (maybe a year and a half). They are now in some cardboard box behind my desk. The first issue I received was still called "S100 magazine", then they renamed themselves. Even at that time it was only 20% S100 coverage, the rest all VME, Multibus etc. Their cp/m coverage (from any non-S10 point of view) was nearly null. I don't think it's worth the price just for its S100 or cp/m coverage; except if you are desperate for the last magazine which has ANY (if little) S100 coverage. By the way ... speaking about cp/m and computer magazines: In Germany (and probably in Austria and Switzerland, too) there is still quite a bit of cp/m activity going on. I think there are three main reasons: (1) A whole lot of industrial control systems, based on the ECB bus (first used by Kontron); many boards are available (often from very small, innovative manufacturers). Many of the industrial control system boards are pretty expensive, but often powerfull (for example, the typical memory board is 64kB static CMOS memory with battery backup !) (2) Two popular German computer magazines picked up on the ECB bus, and had several lines of boards for it. There are several very nice boards available, and you can get empty PC boards and part kits pretty cheap. These days you have a choice of Z80, 64180, Z280, 8088, 68008, and even 68020 and 8086 for your processor on ECB boards, while sharing periphereals. One magazine even did an IBM XT look-alike on ECB boards. (3) The Amstrad cp/m machines (sold under the "Schneider" brand name) are pretty popular in the lower end of home-computers. Getting back to magazines, the two are - "mc" (which these days caters mostly to the IBM, Atari and Amiga market, and is more oriented towards product reviews and software, similar to Byte. Carries a few cp/m or Z80-hardware articles A YEAR, so not worth the price, - "c't" (yes, with an apostrophe in it), which is more hardware and project oriented. Typical projects these days are for example an 68020 adapter board for your Amiga, or a Z80 microcontroller board on 5cm x 8cm with ECB bus adapter (using SMD). Still has on the average a few 8-bit articles per issue. Very much recommended. If you happen to speak German and are interested, send me a message, I can give you the adresses where to subscribe (and even get back issues). If you happen to be close by, drop by my office and look at a stack of c't's. On the other hand, I am probably the only subscriber to this list in Hawaii who speaks German ... Ralph Becker-Szendy RALPH@UHHEPG.PHYS.HAWAII.EDU University of Hawaii / High Energy Physics Group RALPH@UHHEPG.BITNET Watanabe Hall #203, 2505 Correa Road, Honolulu, HI 96822 (808)948-7391 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 7-Feb-89 01:58:02-MST,7409;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 7 Feb 89 01:30:39 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #35 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 7 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 35 Today's Topics: DIST-CPM FILES mex,ftp,kermit,reportstar was: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #26 need CP/M disc format info SUPERMICRO magazine UUENCODE for CPM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 6 Feb 89 16:58:07 GMT From: ssbell!mcmi!hdr!unocss!mlewis@uunet.uu.net (Marcus S. Lewis) Subject: DIST-CPM FILES In article <8902042130.AA12850@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, CHWEST@UALR writes: > > - - The original note follows - - > > Anyone using a Vax with kermit download that has figured > how to get files from DIST-CPM i get the files received here but > once copied to my acct and downloaded they are trashed. > tdir.pqs for instance would not unsqueeze here at home. Which version of KERMIT your are using on the Kaypro should be irrelevant. What is relevant is that you have to tell VAX KERMIT that the file type is binary. The command is SET FILE TYPE BINARY Actually I'm surprised you got the whole file, since my Vax kermit throws up unless it sees line feeds regularly except in binary mode. The Kaypro Kermit ought to not care about file type, but Vax kermit does. Marc Lewis ------------------------------ Date: 6 Feb 89 13:42:31 GMT From: haven!uvaarpa!babbage!watt.acc.Virginia.EDU!rr2g@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Rhonda Ragland) Subject: mex,ftp,kermit,reportstar was: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #26 > The help files you are looking for are on simtel20 and they are >PD2: MEX-EASY.DZC AND MEXSTEPS.TQT. And don't feel bad. I cut >my teeth on computer comm with bbs systems, but I was totally lost when >I started on ftp and kermit about 5 months ago. Thanks for the information and the consolation. I guess ftp & kermit are my next big steps so get your explanations ready :-). What do I need to get started? Also I have a question about ReportStar, when I run a quick report the title and the date are always printed 3 times each before the report info starts printing. Is there a way I can correct this? ============================================================================== # A day at work is not like a day in paradise !!! # # # # # Rhonda Ragland # University of Virginia # ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 89 12:00:16 GMT From: mcvax!unido!cosmo!fifi%cosmo.UUCP@uunet.uu.net (A.F.Zinser) Subject: need CP/M disc format info In article <1003@cosmo.UUCP> larry@lunar.UUCP writes: > ... > format. Can anybody tell me what the logical format of CP/M discs is? Uh. There are a different physical and logical formats possible. Assuming, you know the physical format (number of tracks, sectorsize and so on..), you still have to know, how many systemtracks are used (up to 5 tracks starting at 0). behind them starts the directory-area - the size of it also depends on the format which is used. each dir- entry has a length of 32 byte: byte 0 : user-number (owner), mostly 00 - you can ignore it user-number = 0xe5 => deleted file(entry) = 0xff => unused direntry byte 1-8 : filename, left-centered, filled-up with 0x20 (spaces) byte 9-11: extension, same format as filename if any of these three bytes has bit 7 set, it is marked either for read/only or as a system-file byte 12 : each dir-entry describes a part of the file up to 16-kbyte. byte 12 is the "partnumber". byte 13-14 : unused, both 0x00 byte 15 : this bytes describes, how many records belong to this direntry (each record is 128 byte long - this is the logical sectorsize of cp/m). byte 16-31 : blocknumbers (of course the blocksize depends on the used format : 1, 2, 4 or 8 kByte) byte 32 : internally used byte 33-35 : internally used the blocks are countet from the beginning of the directory-area. for example the data for the "standart"-format "osborne-dd": single-sided, double-density, 5 sectors with each 1024 byte per track, 40 tracks, 3 system-tracks, blocksize 1k, dir-size 2 blocks (2 k), no skew. Oh, a logical skew also is possible... if you could tell me, which format you have to read, or from which machine the disks are, perhaps i can tell you the correct parameters. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | _ _ ! ! Axel F. Zinser (_!_) (_!_) ...uunet!mcvax!unido!cosmo!fifi | | Hannover, BRD ! ! fifi@cosmo.UUCP ! ! don't worry - be happy ! ! ! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 6 Feb 89 17:17:56 GMT From: ecsvax!cjl@mcnc.org (Charles J. Lord) Subject: SUPERMICRO magazine I subscribed to S-100 Journal and the magazine comes out when they feel like sending the next issue- over 6 mos between issues at times. The magazine never had anything that useful on S-100, and now that they are diversifying into the other buses... Well, forget it. -- * Charles Lord ..!decvax!mcnc!ecsvax!cjl Usenet (old) * * Cary, NC cjl@ecsvax.UUCP Usenet (new) * * #include cjl@ecsvax.BITNET Bitnet * * #include cjl@ecsvax.uncecs.edu Internet * ------------------------------ Date: 6 Feb 89 23:07:00 GMT From: pur-phy!tippy!fireman@ee.ecn.purdue.edu Subject: UUENCODE for CPM Does anyone have UUENCODE for the 128 CPM?? I have requested files from SIMTEL, but it sends me the files in UUE format and I can't do anything with them once I get them. Rob Dale tippy!FIREMAN@newton.physics.purdue.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Feb 89 13:29:03 MEZ From: RZ1S%DFVLRGO1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Date: 06 February 1989, 13:24:25 MEZ From: Christian Lohmann RZ1S at DFVLRGO1 To: info-cpm at wsmr-simtel20 Subject: Info-CPM V89/13 AMSTRAD & DISKS The 3" disks are single sided/single density with 40 tracks each side and 36 sectors/track (128 byte sector size). So you will have 2*180 KB of data minus system tracks and dir-groups on a disk. I don't know (sorry) how much bytes for system are used by this CPM3 machine but the AMSTRAD 464 CPM2.2 disks have two system tracks and two dir-groups so the disks will at least contain 169 KB on each side. I heard of a second 3" drive distributed by AMSTRAD, that is double sided/double density. So you'll get 720 KB (minus system ...). ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 8-Feb-89 01:34:21-MST,3351;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 89 01:30:18 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #36 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 8 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 36 Today's Topics: Z80 Co-processors ZCPR for the C128 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 6 Feb 89 22:11:50 GMT From: cadnetix.COM!cadnetix!rusty@uunet.uu.net (Rusty) Subject: Z80 Co-processors In article <8902021749.AA09055@freedom.llnl.gov> rzh@FREEDOM.LLNL.GOV (Roger H. Hanscom (415) 423-0441) writes: > >Does anybody out there have any experience with Z-80 >co-processors of the type that plug into the PC buss?? ... >I got a catalog in the mail last night from Central >Computer Products. The co-processor that they carry >is "UniDOS". It runs a Z-80 at 8 MHz. How do these >things communicate with DOS over the buss? What is >the software like? How does one run CP/M on the Z80, >or is that done?? In other words, how does CP/M on >the co-processor access the PC hardware (disks)?? >The UniDOS device is on a half-card, and costs $175. > I have just such a co-processor board (the Baby Blue(tm?)), and it works by placing the 64k of z80 memory somewhere in the memory space of the PC (you get to select where using dip switches). CP/M programs have an MS/DOS header added which will find where the BB memory is and copy the Z80 code (along with the BIOS/BDOS routines, more about them later) up to the BB memory, and then releases the hold on the Z80 using an I/O port on the PC (also selectable, I think). When the CP/M program wants to do I/O or whatever, the BIOS/BDOS emulation routines set up info in a buffer (I think) and either set a flag or use an I/O port to notify the PC that help is needed, at which point the PC does what is needed and then lets the Z80 run again. On the Baby Blue, you prepare a CP/M program by adding the loader to the .COM, and then you just run the program as though it were a standard MS/DOS program. Be sure that the UniDOS board will actually run on your PC when the PC runs at the speed you wish it to. My Baby Blue board is for sale because it would not run fast enough to keep up with my AT. (8MHz BUS Think about it... a Z80B is a 6MHz part. Anybody with a PC or XT want to buy a good Baby Blue board?) (And I personally think $175 is too much. I only want $70 for mine!) Hope this helped. Anybody else have contrary info to mine? Anybody have any idea how to get my Baby Blue board to work on my AT????? ----- Rusty Carruth UUCP:{uunet,boulder}!cadnetix!rusty DOMAIN: rusty@cadnetix.com Cadnetix Corp. (303) 444-8075x681 \ 5775 Flatiron Pkwy. \ Boulder, Co 80301 Radio: N7IKQ 'home': P.O.B. 461 \ Lafayette, CO 80026 ------------------------------ Date: 7 Feb 89 07:15:00 GMT From: pur-phy!tippy!fireman@ee.ecn.purdue.edu Subject: ZCPR for the C128 Has anyone ported ZCPR to the 128 CPM?? If so, what version and where can I get it? Rob Dale tippy!FIREMAN@newton.physics.purdue.edu ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 9-Feb-89 01:48:19-MST,5267;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 89 01:30:33 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #37 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 9 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 37 Today's Topics: Echolon NorthStar support Z80 Co-processors (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 8 Feb 89 18:22:48 GMT From: vu0141@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu (vu0141) Subject: Echolon Does someone have the mailing address of Echolon, the people who make ZCPR and other things. They seem to have moved since I last contacted them a few years ago. Fred Schiff - You can kill and maim with your Zen gun. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= vu0141@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu | And when I turned, no face I saw, | voice: (607) 777-7577 + For the shadow was my own. + US: PO Box 10207 | Death Angel's Shadow. | Binghamton, NY 13901 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: 8 Feb 89 15:49:36 GMT From: aguada@athena.mit.edu (Carlos Acevedo) Subject: NorthStar support I need help!!! I have a lot of experimental data stored in a NorthStar machine. It uses 51/4" floppies and "NorthStar DOS" which I can't read into any other computer. I need to recover this information somehow and I am not enough of a hacker to write a code to do the trick. Is there any one out there who knows how to do this? Is there any chance that Kermit was ever ported to the NorthStar? Any other suggestions? Thanks, Hector aguada@athena.mit.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue 08 Feb 1989 16:18:07 EDT From: Subject: Z80 Co-processors As I mentioned in a previous posting, I have the UniDos card, which I obtained directly from MicroSolutions, the manufacturer. It runs CP/M COM files WITHOUT the need for any header (and it detects them automatically). I have no speed problem on my 16 MHz Compaq 386 machine. It sounds as though its technology is more advanced than that of the Blue Lightning. ------------------------------ Date: 9 Feb 89 02:27:23 GMT From: pacbell!sactoh0!bkbarret@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Brent K. Barrett) Subject: Z80 Co-processors In article <6531@cadnetix.COM>, rusty@cadnetix.COM (Rusty) writes: > In article <8902021749.AA09055@freedom.llnl.gov> rzh@FREEDOM.LLNL.GOV (Roger H. Hanscom (415) 423-0441) writes: > > > >I got a catalog in the mail last night from Central > >Computer Products. The co-processor that they carry > >is "UniDOS". It runs a Z-80 at 8 MHz. How do these > >things communicate with DOS over the buss? What is > >the software like? How does one run CP/M on the Z80, > >or is that done?? In other words, how does CP/M on > >the co-processor access the PC hardware (disks)?? > >The UniDOS device is on a half-card, and costs $175. > > > I have just such a co-processor board (the Baby Blue(tm?)), and [ZAP!]> > On the Baby Blue, you prepare a CP/M program by adding the loader > to the .COM, and then you just run the program as though it were a > standard MS/DOS program. > Be sure that the UniDOS board will actually run on your PC when the > PC runs at the speed you wish it to. My Baby Blue board is for sale > because it would not run fast enough to keep up with my AT. (8MHz BUS > Think about it... a Z80B is a 6MHz part. Anybody with a PC or XT want > to buy a good Baby Blue board?) > > (And I personally think $175 is too much. I only want $70 for mine!) > Hope this helped. Anybody else have contrary info to mine? Sure do, Rusty. I happen to own one of the above mentioned boards. It's from MicroSolutions, BTW, and "UniDOS" is the name of the software that comes with the board. That answers one of your questions right there: UniDOS loads as a TSR and when you type an executable name at the prompt, it will "help" DOS by looking for a *.CPM file if all else fails. If found, the CP/M program is loaded in the 64k that is on-board the coprocessor card (no memory sharing with this board), and executed with the Z80/UniDOS combo in control. I operate my machine at 8 MHz as well, and I have no problems with this board. Note that even though it claims to do 8 MHz, it comes out to about 5 or 6 MHz in the long run. I highly recommend it, since it comes complete with a current legal copy of MiscroSolutions most famous product: Uniform-PC, which allows you to read/write/initialize CP/M format disks in your IBM drive. BTW, Rusty, leave me some E-mail, I'm having problems getting back to you on that KQ4 problem. -- "Somebody help me! I'm trapped in this computer!" Brent Barrett ..pacbell!sactoh0!bkbarret GEMAIL: B.K.BARRETT ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 10-Feb-89 01:44:23-MST,3370;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 10 Feb 89 01:30:11 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #38 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 10 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 38 Today's Topics: CP/M beginner (a little late, maybe, but....) Echelon NorthStar Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 9 Feb 89 15:12:40 GMT From: don@vax1.acs.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd) Subject: CP/M beginner (a little late, maybe, but....) I've had a Commodore 128 for several years now and the CP/M disks that came with it have been sitting in a disk box on a shelf in my room nearly un- touched (except for those few times when, out of boredom, I booted them up, played around with them for a few minutes, then reset the machine & loaded up Bard's Tale or whatever game I was into that particular month). Anyway, I'd like to try to start learning a little about CP/M in between all the other projects I constantly find myself starting out on. Is there a decent (inexpensive) book that's not too hard to come by that can teach me the basics? What CP/M systems is c128 cp/m compatible with? How can I download files onto a cp/m formatted disk (do I need a special term prog, or do I have to down-load them and then convert them somehow?) Answers and introductions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Don ------------------------------ Date: Wed 09 Feb 1989 13:20:25 EDT From: Subject: Echelon >> Does someone have the mailing address of Echolon, the people who make >> ZCPR and other things. They seem to have moved since I last contacted >> them a few years ago. Echelon is no longer in business, and others have taken over. Since I have some connection to the successors, it will have to be left to others to provide any details. -- Jay Sage MIT Lincoln Laboratory PO Box 73 Lexington, MA 02173-0073 617-981-4704 ------------------------------ Date: Wed 09 Feb 1989 13:20:31 EDT From: Subject: NorthStar Support >> I need help!!! I have a lot of experimental data stored in a NorthStar >> machine....which I can't read There is a card that you can buy from MicroSolutions (same people who make the UniDos Z80 card that has been discussed here recently) that will allow an XT or AT to format, read, and write NorthStar hard-sector-format CP/M diskettes. I assume that these are the same diskettes as those for what you refer to as NorthStar DOS. If you have only a small number of diskettes, I would be willing to have you send them to me, and I would convert them to some other standard format (such as MS-DOS 360K or 1.2M 5"). There would be a few simple conditions, so check with me first. If you still have the NorthStar machine, I do have a version of MDM727 (MODEM7) for it -- that's how I used to get files to and from that machine. -- Jay Sage MIT Lincoln Laboratory PO Box 73 Lexington, MA 02173-0073 617-981-4704 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 11-Feb-89 01:43:05-MST,5305;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 11 Feb 89 01:30:39 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #39 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 11 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 39 Today's Topics: c128 CP/M+ IMP, MULTITERM, or PAPERCLIP III Dynabyte DB8/1 Looking for Software Publishers NorthStar DOS file help Small C Compiler ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 10 Feb 89 17:49:36 GMT From: fletcher@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Mark R. Hansen) Subject: c128 CP/M+ IMP, MULTITERM, or PAPERCLIP III I normally use Joe O'Hara's Vt100-128 terminal emulator with my 1670/Hayes modem. I would like to logon to a 4.3 Unix system using some of my other software packages, primarily in CP/M+ mode. I have IMP but cannot find assemble or locate a working termcap for my Commodore 128 in CP/M+ mode with a 1670/Hayes (Aprotek Minimodem-C) modem on Unix 4.3 Tahoe Bsd. I am looking for termcaps for: - c128 in CP/M+ utilizing IMP (Irv's Modem Program) - c128 utilizing MULTITERM128 - c128 utilizing Batteries Not Included's PAPERCLIP II or III Telecommunications mode. Please respond to me via email at fletcher@csd4.milw.wisc.edu I will post a summary of information received. Thank you, Mark R. Hansen --------------------------------------------------- | It's a Yithian Communicator...So...Big Deal! | | Everybody gather round, let's see what it does,| | | | Come on, Turn it on...... | --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 10 Feb 89 01:45:58 GMT From: att!alberta!calgary!cpsc!mccormick@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Wayne Mccormick) Subject: Dynabyte DB8/1 I have had my Heath H-90 for some time now and I have recently picked up a Dynabyte DB8/1 and DB8/4 disk drive really cheap (free). It's a CP/M machine but isn't much good to me at the moment (limited software...). The question is, what can I do with it? (Other than using it for a very heavy dorrstop :-) I was thinking of linking it up with the H-90 as a co-processor or maybe as extra disk space. Oh, I blew up the Hazeltine 1500 that came with it so I don't have a terminal for it anymore either. The DB8/4 has two 8 inch full height drives that hold somewhere on the neighbourhood of 100K each. The system has 2 serial and 1 parrallel port plus the drive port. So here it is, any ideas? Thanks in advance, Wayne McCormick mccormick@cpsc.UCalgary.ca :-) ------------------------------ Date: 10 Feb 89 14:03:37 GMT From: emcard!stiatl!todd@gatech.edu (Todd Merriman) Subject: Looking for Software Publishers Software authors want to publish, but need publishers to do so. We are looking for publishers who evaluate independent authors work. We currently have a mailing list of about 35 authors and about 10 publishers. If you are a publisher, we need to know: (1) the type of software you publish (tools, spreadsheets, etc.) (2) platforms (MSDOS, VMS, UNIX) (3) who to contact, mailing address, phone no., e-mail address (4) any other information that would help an author If you are an author, we need to know: (1) your e-mail address ...!gatech!stiatl!todd Todd Merriman 404-377-8638 Atlanta, GA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Feb 89 08:50:08 EST From: Robert Bloom AMCICP-IM 3775 Subject: NorthStar DOS file help Re: urgent request from aquada@athena.mit.edu If the info on the disk(s) is in CP/M format, there is lots of people on the net and elsewhere that can help you with simple transfers. (For example, I have a N* and PC sitting next to each other and FTP between them vai a commo line and MEX quite frequently.) If the info on the disk(s) is really in NorthStar DOS (a N* proprietary disk format which was overcome by CP/M, giving you some idea of its age) things become much tougher. Even if the transfer is done, the files may be useless as most N* DOS data files involve N* proprietary *programs*, standard ASCII may not be available. In the latter, Randy Fischer of Fischer Computer systems may be the last surviving commercial N* DOS expert. Phone is (707)965- 2414, Angwin CA - no connection with me other than a satisfied customer. (Anybody know if N*, the company, still exists? - I'm still running a Horizon, but now under multi-processor TurboDOS. Last I heard they were making 'Dimensions' - a multi-user MS-DOS machine with some variant of TurboDOS ...) Bob Bloom ------------------------------ Date: 11 Feb 89 00:33:00 GMT From: ogccse!metheus!arty@husc6.harvard.edu (Art Yerkes) Subject: Small C Compiler I have a compiler which may just work, but there is just one problem. I have no documentation. If you want it just reply on the news net. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 12-Feb-89 01:33:46-MST,1390;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 12 Feb 89 01:30:53 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #40 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 12 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 40 Today's Topics: Echolon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 10 Feb 89 08:45:00 GMT From: mcvax!unido!nixpbe!ugun21!josef@uunet.uu.net Subject: Echolon In his note, Fred Schiff (vu0141@bingvaxu.UUCP) writes: >Does someone have the mailing address of Echolon, the people who make >ZCPR and other things. They seem to have moved since I last contacted >them a few years ago. As far as I know, Echelon does no longer exist. Try contacting a guy called Ken Davidson at Micromint/Circuit Cellar INK He told me this a couple of months ago and knew more (I have fogotten the details). Josef Moellers paper mail: e-mail: c/o Nixdorf Computer AG USA: uunet!linus!nixbur!mollers.pad Abt. EG-3 !USA: mcvax!unido!nixpbe!mollers.pad Unterer Frankfurter Weg D-4790 Paderborn tel.: (+49) 5251 104691 Standard disclaimer: Blablabla opinion blablabla employer blablabla! ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 13-Feb-89 01:59:42-MST,4022;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 13 Feb 89 01:30:45 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #41 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 13 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 41 Today's Topics: Echelon and ZEX Help NorthStar Bios Paperclip where to find full-height DD floppies near Boston, MA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Feb 89 00:30 EST From: Lewallen@DOCKMASTER.ARPA Subject: Echelon and ZEX Help Reference the one who asked about Echelon. Echelon is no longer in existance. The development of the zcpr products is carried on by another team, of with Jay Sage is a charter member and prime contributer. I do not know what name they are using, but if you want information on ZCPR products, you can contact Jay's BBS system at 617- 965-7259. The password asked for is DDT. Or you can write his company, Sage Microsystems East, 1435 Centre Street, Newton, MA 02159 to order something. His voice number (between 9am-1115pm eastern time zone) is 617-965-3552. Read TCJ30.MZG, TCJ32.MZG on SIMTEL20 for more info; realize that Echelon is out of business, but ZCPR is far from gone. Reference ZEX---HELP!!! I have zex403 and I am trying to run it on a NZCOM installed ZCPR34 system on the Kaypro 10 w/turborom. After running zex twice, the system drops to the command prompt and the cpr will no longer process any commands. I just get the command prompt no matter what I enter. Only solution is to reboot. Ovbiously, this is frustrating and unproductive. Can anyone give me some ideas? Ric Lewallen Lewallen -at Dockmaster.arpa HQ-MAC-SCP5 -at Scott-oa1.arpa AUTOVON 875-7988, COMM 205-293-7988 ------------------------------ Date: 12 Feb 1989 13:31-PST From: SAC.CCSO-OLA@E.ISI.EDU Subject: NorthStar Bios Is it me, or does the standard N* CP/M BIOS not support IOBYTE redirection? I'm in the process of disassembling CPMGEN, and therefore the system image in it. Anyways, it seems that the low-level routines doesn't give a rat's fuzzy behind about the IOBYTE. So, I guess I'll rework it. >JS< John Schuncke SSgt, USAF CCSO/OL-A Offutt AFB, NE SAC.CCSO-OLA@E.ISI.EDU <== for now MAC_CCSOOLA@SACEMNET.ARPA <== maybe someday Disclaimer: My employer doesn't even know I'm doing this. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Feb 89 17:44:08 GMT From: astroatc!nicmad!madnix!rat@speedy.cs.wisc.edu (David Douthitt) Subject: Paperclip Can anyone give a review of Paperclip? Is it a CP/M word processor or just a C128 program? What is it like? Thanks... [david] -- ======== David Douthitt :::: Madison, WI :::: The Stainless Steel Rat ======== FidoNet: 1:121/1 or 1:121/2 {decvax|att}! UseNet: ...{rutgers|ucbvax|harvard}!uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!madnix!rat ArpaNet: madnix!rat@cs.wisc.edu {uunet|ncoast}!marque! ------------------------------ Date: 12 Feb 89 16:16:48 GMT From: madd@bu-cs.bu.edu (Jim Frost) Subject: where to find full-height DD floppies near Boston, MA I have an old Kaypro II with one defective disk drive and another which is out of alignment. This is the older model Kaypro II which uses single-sided double-density drives, which are somewhat hard to come by. I believe that double-sided drives would work (since the "side" pin is just empty) but full-height double-sided drives also seem to be hard to come by. If anyone has any information on how to go about where to find full-height drives in the Boston area, or how to realign them, please email a response. Your reply will be greatly appreciated. jim frost madd@bu-it.bu.edu ..!harvard!bu-it!madd ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 14-Feb-89 02:46:06-MST,4481;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 14 Feb 89 01:31:06 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #42 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 14 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 42 Today's Topics: MAC or RMAC Command Line NorthStar Bios (2 msgs) Prob with Compaq serial port (COM1) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Feb 89 19:03:26 PST From: rzh@freedom.llnl.gov (Roger H. Hanscom (415) 423-0441) Subject: MAC or RMAC Command Line Hi all -- I'd like to try to compile ZCPR 3.3, so I transferred my copies of RMAC and MAC over from the old 8" diskettes in preparation. But I can't find my documentation, and I've long since forgotten the command line syntax for these things. Does anyone out there remember?? Will really *OLD* versions of MAC work on ZCPR 3.3?? Is there a better way?? roger rzh%freedom.llnl.gov@lll-lcc.llnl.gov ========================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 13 Feb 1989 16:41-CST From: SAC.CCSO-OLA@E.ISI.EDU Subject: NorthStar Bios Actually, I'd like a full listing of the BIOS and BDOS source. And I inherited the system with no distribution disks and very little documentation. Such is life; I'll make do. In fact, I'm a little unsure of the pedigree of my copy of CP/M. I understand that both N* and Lifeboat Associates offered versions of CP/M. Everything on the surface indicates that my CP/M is from N*, but a great deal of the internals if it that I've seen so far looks like the Lifeboat CP/M stuff I've seen. For instance, the user area looks the same, except in a different location if the SYSGEN image (Actually, the SYSGEN image resides at a different address at SYSGEN load time, I think.) Ah, the mysteries of it all. Thanks for your help and interest!! >JS< John L. Schuncke, Jr. SSgt, USAF CCSO/OL-A Offutt AFB, NE Address #1: SAC.CCSO-OLA@E.ISI.EDU until we lose our lease Address #2: MAC_CCSOOLA@SACEMNET when they get it running And let's hope #2 happens before #1! Disclaimer: My boss doesn't know I'm doing this; It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission. ------------------------------ Date: 13 Feb 1989 18:46-CST From: SAC.CCSO-OLA@E.ISI.EDU Subject: NorthStar Bios Thanx for the guidance on PD2:. I've found a file there called NSUSER5Z.AQM which, when unsqueezed, appears to be a N* Bios USER area which supports some pretty sophisticated IOBYTE redirection. Good catch, eh? It looks to be what I'm looking for, when I install it. >JS< SAC.CCSO-OLA@E.ISI.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Sun 13 Feb 1989 09:30:56 EDT From: Subject: Prob with Compaq serial port (COM1) Andrew Sigal wrote: >> It appears that the built in serial port (COM1:) is >> holding Carrier Detect (CD) high all the time. When I saw this message, I got all excited, because I have been having a similar problem with an internal modem on my Kaypro 286/16 computer. The PCBoard BBS software refuses to run, complaining that carrier detect is asserted. I played with all the switches on the board and with the "&C" and "&D" commands to the modem, all to no avail. I thought maybe this message would have some clues for me. Then I got to the part: >> I just purchased a new modem (Zoom Telephonics 2400 baud external) Curious! The modem that is giving me trouble just happens to be a Zoom modem (model 2400 PC, I believe it is called -- very fancy with internal messaging capability, real-time clock, demon dialing, etc.)! Probably just a coincidence, but... This modem claims to be as Hayes compatible as a Hayes, but no matter what, that carrier detect signal seems to be there all the time. I will have to get myself copies of the two programs mentioned, BRKBOX and COMHELP, and see what they report about the modem interface. I tried writing a quick Turbo Pascal program to look at the ports, but I did not succeed in learning anything useful. Does anyone have any suggestions on this problem? Anyone else own this modem? -- Jay Sage ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 15-Feb-89 01:48:31-MST,4700;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 15 Feb 89 01:30:33 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #43 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 15 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 43 Today's Topics: Epson Floppy Disk Drive NorthStar Bios Paperclip ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 14 Feb 89 05:22:35 GMT From: att!ihlpl!pnb@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Burgess) Subject: Epson Floppy Disk Drive I currently have an Epson PX-8 lap top computer that I really enjoy and find useful. I also have a PF-10 portable floppy 3-1/2" disk drive. Both of these I bought through the mail order company, DAK, in California for truly discount prices. I am intersted in getting another PF10, but Dak has finally run out of their supply. Does anyone know where I can get one, without having to pay the $600 list price? Or does anyone know what other disk drives are compatible with the PX-8? It is not a requirement that the drive be portable. Any good drive that is compatible will do. Also, I would be willing to consider buying a used drive if it were in good condition. Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks in advance. Paul Burgess ..!ihlpl!pnb ------------------------------ Date: 14 Feb 89 00:50:20 GMT From: imagen!atari!portal!cup.portal.com!dgee@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (David O Goodman) Subject: NorthStar Bios In article <[E.ISI.EDU]12-Feb-89.13:31:47.SAC.CCSO-OLA> John Schuncke writes: > Is it me, or does the standard N* CP/M BIOS not support IOBYTE > redirection? I'm in the process of disassembling CPMGEN, and > therefore the system image in it. Anyways, it seems that the > low-level routines doesn't give a rat's fuzzy behind about the > IOBYTE. ... You are correct. The N* bios does not support the IOBYTE. I've tried every variation of your address I can think of in many vain attempts to reach you, but all mail bounces. Several other N* people on the net with whom I'm in contact have also been unable to get mail to you. Can you supply a path from some major site? There is a lot of N* information/support available if we can talk to you. -- Dave Goodman dgee@cup.portal.com ...sun!portal!cup.portal.com ------------------------------ Date: 14 Feb 89 05:16:31 GMT From: fletcher@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Mark R. Hansen) Subject: Paperclip I have a copy of Paperclip II and Paperclip III. As far as I know it is software for the Commodore 128 and Commodore 64 mode (in one pack for the c128...however this is an actual c128 program....not a c64 emulation program) or Commodore 64 only. Paperclip II was very nice. It allows for italics, underlining, boldface, subscripts, superscripts, assorted pitchs, etc etc. You are able to save your files as program files and sequential files. Form letters (or any document containing variable blocks) are easy. It is mostly driven by control codes (q.v. Ctrl-o = printer output). You are allowed to copy it as many times as you want. It only runs if you plug the key (a PLA or something) into the control port however. Paperclip III is wonderful and is one of the best c128 word processors available. It will accept all work done on Paperclip II. Changes made were to make it menu driven (via the 'F' keys) as well as control code driven. Overall it is more user friendly. Multi-line headers and footers are now allowed. Screen color can be changed and the video output (examining a document as it would be printed) now shows superscripts, subscripts, underlining, italics, everything...just as the printer does. It further inhances those special areas in different colored text for ease of editing. Both Paperclips handle ranges and columns well. You can move things around as well as copy it here and there. The dictionary is quick (for a commodore...with a 1571) and easy to update. All in all I think it is wonderful. The only thing I have had problems with is the telecommunications mode. I cannot find a working termcap. It does nothing with control characters. I termcap could probably be made by someone with a little time to spare. Happy to give it a good rating -Mark R. Hansen Correction: my previous posting listed Paperclip as being made by BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED...that was an oops....It is really BATTERIES INCLUDED ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 16-Feb-89 01:46:07-MST,3152;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 89 01:30:25 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #44 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 16 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 44 Today's Topics: Need Two CONIX Utilities Printers with C128 CP/M Re: Supermicro magazine ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon 14 Feb 1989 15:15:38 EDT From: Subject: Need Two CONIX Utilities I was just contacted in my capacity as a Boston Computer Society resource person by someone who needs the CONIX utilities MV and CP. A power surge damaged a number of his diskettes, and these two files turned out not to have been backed up. These files are not part of the public release of CONIX, so only someone who purchased the commercial version will have these. And there don't seem to be very many people in that class! If anyone out there could supply these to me, I would appreciate it. -- Jay Sage ------------------------------ Date: WED 15 FEB 1989 10:41:00 CST From: Brian Piersel Subject: Printers with C128 CP/M I have an Epson printer connected to my C-128 with a Xetec interface. The interface manual mentions something about setting the interface for transparent mode and configuring the printer in CP/M for true ASCII rather than Commodore ASCII. However, nothing I have gives any indication of how to do that. Does anybody know how? Thanks in advance. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Piersel "I think not, therefore I am not." BITNET: S1CH@SDSUMUS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 13 Feb 89 22:01:48 GMT From: mcvax!unido!cosmo!fifi%cosmo.UUCP@uunet.uu.net (A.F.Zinser) Subject: Re: Supermicro magazine In article <8902052300.AA01115@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Ralph Becker writes: > (2) Two popular German computer magazines picked up on the ECB bus, and > had several lines of boards for it... These days you have a choice > of Z80, 64180, Z280, 8088, 68008,.... ^^^^ ----- I happen to speak german (cause I am one..) and I'm very interesting in Z280. Please tell (post) me, which issue of which magazine you mean. thanks in advance, - fifi - +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | _ _ ! ! Axel F. Zinser (_!_) (_!_) ...uunet!mcvax!unido!cosmo!fifi | | Hannover, BRD ! ! fifi@cosmo.UUCP ! ! ! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 17-Feb-89 01:41:55-MST,3928;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 17 Feb 89 01:30:09 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #45 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 17 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 45 Today's Topics: Is there a PCD terminal emulation package for the TRS80-III Looking for MP/M specs/documentation moving/adding a hard drive ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 16 Feb 89 05:39:08 GMT From: att!alberta!uqv-mts!ualtavm!ECULHAM@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (User name Unknown) Subject: Is there a PCD terminal emulation package for the TRS80-III I'm looking for a Public domain/shareware/cheap terminal emulator which runs on a TRS80-model 3. If you email me directly, I'll summarize the results for the net. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 89 22:18:32 GMT From: ius3.ius.cs.cmu.edu!ralphw@pt.cs.cmu.edu (Ralph Hyre) Subject: Looking for MP/M specs/documentation Is there anything that describes the programmer's and user's interface to this beast? Mainly to satisfy my curiosity, I want to understand how the system works and compares with other multitasking/multiuser versions of operating systems that run in an 8-bit environment. (I've also heard of a possibly competing system called TurboDOS, but am not very familiar with it.) Thanks for any pointers provided. -- - Ralph W. Hyre, Jr. Internet: ralphw@{ius{3,2,1}.,}cs.cmu.edu Phone:(412) CMU-BUGS Amateur Packet Radio: N3FGW@W2XO, or c/o W3VC, CMU Radio Club, Pittsburgh, PA "You can do what you want with my computer, but leave me alone!8-)" -- ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 89 19:48:25 GMT From: deimos!harris.cis.ksu.edu!mac@rutgers.edu (Myron A. Calhoun) Subject: moving/adding a hard drive I have several dual-processor Z-100's with lots of RAM, dual 5 1/4" and dual 8" floppy drives, and an S-100 bus. It runs MS-DOS on its 16-bit engine and CP/M (which I rarely use) on its 8-bit engine. Please forgive me for posting to this group, but absolutely NO ONE answered my question on the Z100 group, so I'm hoping to find more knowledgeable readers or hackers (in the good sense) here! A dual-processor Vector 4 computer with 128K RAM, 10 Mb hard drive, and 596 Kb hard-sectored floppy drive, running both CP/M and CP/M-86, recently "fell into my lap". It has a "modified" S-100 bus (its cards do NOT have on-board voltage regulators). It came with gobs of software and works fine, but I have little use for yet another computer. :-) BUT IF I can move its disk driver board to one of my Z-100's, that would be a positive step! (I suppose I could always try to sell the Vector, but I doubt it has enough resale value to be worth advertising. And just trashing it seems so wasteful.) I have plenty of hardware "smarts" to add voltage regulators, change I/O port addresses, etc., but I don't have the slightest idea how to go about telling an operating system that I've added more drives. I do have several disks of what appears to be BIOS/BDOS source code for the 16-bit engine, and I have coded in assembly language for many years. It's almost embarrassing, considering my affiliation and what I do for a living, but what I do NOT know is WHAT to do! Can anyone please either tell me what to do or what to read (and where to find it) so that I can learn what to do? --Myron Myron A. Calhoun, PhD EE, W0PBV, (913) 532-6350 (work), 539-4448 (home). INTERNET: mac@ksuvax1.cis.ksu.edu BITNET: mac@ksuvax1.bitnet -or- mac%ksuvax1.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu UUCP: ..!rutgers!ksuvax1!mac -or- ..!{pyramid,ucsd}!ncr-sd!ncrwic!ksuvax1!mac ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 18-Feb-89 01:47:40-MST,3441;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 18 Feb 89 01:30:14 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #46 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 18 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 46 Today's Topics: CP/M-Plus Disk Access Echelon and ZEX Help ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 17 Feb 89 19:10:05 GMT From: pyramid!athertn!paul@lll-lcc.llnl.gov (Paul Sander) Subject: CP/M-Plus Disk Access A while back I posted a question on how to access a disk directly via the CP/M-Plus BIOS on a banked system. Several people replied, discussing the "Direct BIOS Call" BDOS function (number 50). Many thanks to those people. However, I am still having problems setting up a buffer properly. To perform a disk access (say, a READ for this example) I make the following calls to the BIOS via the BDOS: SETBNK, SELDISK, SETTRACK, SETSECTOR, SETDMA, READ. The result is that floppy drive turns on briefly, then turns off, and the buffer I specified by the SETDMA call does not contain data that I know are in the disk sector I specified. The buffer I am trying to set up is not in the shared memory area, and I get the feeling that the data are being copied into the wrong bank, and that I'm very lucky not to have CP/M crash on me. Here are my questions: Am I really setting up this access properly? If not, what am I doing wrong? Also, the reference I am using mentions the existence of a "System Control Block" which contains a bunch of useful information, and it also describes a BDOS function that returns the address of the block. Does anyone know what the format of the System Control Block is, and could they tell me what it is? I've contacted the vendor of my CP/M implementation, and they no longer carry DRI's Programmer's and System Guides. DRI has passed CP/M support on to a firm called Alexander and Lord, but they demand $350 for the manuals I need (a price which I am not willing to spend right now). Any help you can give me would be much appreciated. -- Paul Sander (408) 734-9822 | Do YOU get nervous when a paul@Atherton.COM | sys{op,adm,prg,engr} says {decwrl,sun,hplabs!hpda}!athertn!paul | "oops..." ? ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 89 07:24:00 GMT From: mcvax!unido!nixpbe!ugun21!josef@uunet.uu.net Subject: Echelon and ZEX Help In his note Ric Lewallen (Lewallen@DOCKMASTER.ARPA.UUCP) writes: [stuff deleted] > After > running zex twice, the system drops to the command prompt and the cpr > will no longer process any commands. I just get the command prompt no > matter what I enter. > Can anyone give me some ideas? Sounds like You're in some IF, try XIF (eXit all IF levels) Josef Moellers paper mail: e-mail: c/o Nixdorf Computer AG USA: uunet!linus!nixbur!mollers.pad Abt. EG-3 !USA: mcvax!unido!nixpbe!mollers.pad Unterer Frankfurter Weg D-4790 Paderborn tel.: (+49) 5251 104691 Standard disclaimer: Blablabla opinion blablabla employer blablabla! ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 19-Feb-89 01:45:47-MST,2410;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 19 Feb 89 01:30:14 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #47 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 19 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 47 Today's Topics: New CP/M Computer Owner (2 msgs) TeleVideo TPC-1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Feb 89 16:57-0500 From: David.Slonosky%QueensU.CA@CORNELLC.ccs.cornell.edu Subject: New CP/M Computer Owner I am now the proud owner of a CP/M computer and would like to know sources in Canada for software on 8 inch SSSD disks. I know about Canada Remote Systems in Toronto and am curious about others. If anyone knows about users groups in Canada, I would also be interested to find out them. Thank you. Dave __________________________________ | | David Slonosky/QueensU/CA,"",CA | Know thyself? | SLONOSKY@QUCDN | If I knew myself, I'd run away. | |__________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: 19 Feb 89 00:22:30 GMT From: paravia@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Mark David Kakatsch) Subject: New CP/M Computer Owner I too am a new CP/M computer owner. The only difference being mine doesn't work. On this, I have a question: I know you need the CPM bootup disk that is produced by the drive controller's manufacturer. However, will non bootup CP/M disks work among different drives? I don't know if I've phrased that very well, but I hope you all understand my question...Thanks. Oh yeah, does anybody know if Tarbell Electronics is still in business? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Feb 89 20:02 PST From: Steven Russell Subject: TeleVideo TPC-1 Does anyone out there know of an implementation of Kermit for the TeleVideo TPC-1? I have had no success in finding one. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. -Steven Russell (srussell@uoneuro.uoregon.edu) ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 20-Feb-89 02:04:54-MST,1299;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 20 Feb 89 01:30:21 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #48 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 20 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 48 Today's Topics: Tarbell Electronics ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Feb 89 09:19:23 PST From: pnet01!mwilson@nosc.mil Subject: Tarbell Electronics > Does anyone know if Tarbell Electronics is still in buisness? No, they're not. However, I have a boot disk for some form of a Tarbell system. If you can tell me a little more about your configuration, maybe I can help you. Which disk controller do you have? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Marc Wilson ARPA: ...!crash!mwilson@nosc.mil ...!crash!pnet01!pro-sol!mwilson@nosc.mil UUCP: [ cbosgd | hp-sdd!hplabs | sdcsvax | nosc ]!crash!mwilson INET: mwilson@crash.CTS.COM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 21-Feb-89 01:47:29-MST,2412;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 21 Feb 89 01:31:00 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #49 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 21 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 49 Today's Topics: need help with Micro Design Associates S-100 board Small C Compiler ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 20 Feb 89 00:37:51 GMT From: morris@jade.Berkeley.EDU (Mike Morris) Subject: need help with Micro Design Associates S-100 board I hsven't seen a comp.arch.s100, so this is probably the best place to post this... I was given a few S-100 boards recently: The floppy controller is a Micro Design Associates FC-100, using a Western Digital 2793-02, with U12, probably an EPROM missing. This board has both 8" and 5.25" drive connectors on it. The memory bpoard is a Macrotech "MAX", with what appears to be 1mb of 4164s on it. The CPU is a Advanced Digital "Super Quad". I am looking for documentation on all three, plus a boot disk for the super quad. No they wern't all part of the same system. I plan on using the Super-Quad in a home control system, and the MAX and the floppy controller in my main system. advaTHANKSnce (ok - so I stole the idea...) US Snail: Mike Morris UUCP: Morris@Jade.JPL.NASA.gov P.O. Box 1130 Also: WA6ILQ Arcadia, Ca. 91006-1130 #Include disclaimer.standard | The opinions above probably do not even ------------------------------ Date: 20 Feb 89 23:36:09 GMT From: js8e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jonathan Benjamin Stigelman) Subject: Small C Compiler Excerpts from mail: 11-Feb-89 Re: Small C Compiler Art Yerkes@metheus.UUCP (142) ] I have a compiler which may just work, but there is just one problem. ] I have no documentation. ] ] If you want it just reply on the news net. Hi there, I too, would VERY much like to obtain a half-decent C compiler for my CP/M system. Z-80 code would be great... Can you give me a pointer? Thanks much, Stig stig@ampere.ece.cmu.edu stig@cs.cmu.edu js8e@andrew.cmu.edu ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 22-Feb-89 01:48:47-MST,6499;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 22 Feb 89 01:30:54 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #50 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 22 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 50 Today's Topics: C128 CP/M CP/M-Plus Disk Access Echelon and ZEX Help Looking for MP/M specs/documentation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: TUE 21 FEB 1989 09:57:00 CST From: Brian Piersel Subject: C128 CP/M Since I didn't get any response from E-mailing directly, I'm assuming the mail never got there, so I'm posting here instead. (I don't understand E-mail...I just try to use it.) In response to Don's (DON@VAX1.ACS.UDEL.EDU) question about C128 CP/M: I haven't used CP/M on my 128 much, either, but maybe I can give you a little help. The C128 CP/M will run most Z80 CP/M software, except for the machine-specific programs. The control characters that it uses for screen formatting is the same as ADM31 terminals, which I think is what Kaypro uses. (The C-128 Programmer's Reference Manual has more info on that.) Getting the programs is more difficult. If you wish to download via modem, you need a terminal program that runs under CP/M, and the newer version of CP/M that supports RS-232. Otherwise, some sort of conversion program is needed. Another possibility is getting disks from places such as the Pubic Domain Users Group. If you have the 1571 drive, you can read other CP/M formats, which makes getting software easier. ********************************************************************** * Brian Piersel * Roses are red, * * BITNET: S1CH000@SDSUMUS * Violets are blue, * * * Most poems rhyme, * * * But this one doesn't. * ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 89 10:36:38 PST From: Bridger Mitchell Subject: CP/M-Plus Disk Access >>However, I am still having problems setting up a buffer properly. To >>perform a disk access (say, a READ for this example) I make the >>following calls to the BIOS via the BDOS: SETBNK, SELDISK, SETTRACK, >>SETSECTOR, SETDMA, READ. The result is that floppy drive turns on >>briefly, then turns off, and the buffer I specified by the SETDMA call >>does not contain data that I know are in the disk sector I specified. Some suggestions that may help in directly reading a disk under CP/M Plus: Call SETBNK with A=1 to set the TPA bank. Call SECTRAN. Does the READ return with good status? Is the data in your buffer changed after the READ? Remember that in CP/M Plus the bios does *physical* sector io; you must have a full sector-sized buffer and do the deblocking in the application. CPM22RSX (or a similar name) is a tool for helping with this. The SCB (system control block) is mostly documented in the manual, but you don't need or want it for this purpose. It is in common memory, and is used for BIOS and BDOS parameters (e.g. current DMA address), configuration bytes, messages between the CCP and the BDOS, etc. Unless you *really* know the system's innards, treat it as strictly read-only! --bridger ------------------------------ Date: Mon 21 Feb 1989 13:47:58 EDT From: Subject: Echelon and ZEX Help Josef Moellers replied to Ric Lewallen as follows: > > running zex twice, the system drops to the command prompt and the cpr > > will no longer process any commands. I just get the command prompt no > > matter what I enter. > > Can anyone give me some ideas? > Sounds like You're in some IF, try XIF (eXit all IF levels) I would just make two small modifications to this suggestion. First, to check the hypothesis, try entering the IFQ command (this may be simply IF with no argument if you are using Joe Wright's specially modified FCP module). This will display the current flow state. Second, XIF will not help. It is flow controlled just like any other commands and will only clear the flow state back to null if the current flow state is true. That is why I added the command ZIF (zero if state). It clears the flow state to null no matter what the present state is. -- Jay Sage ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 89 09:20:04 EST From: Robert Bloom AMCICP-IM 3775 Subject: Looking for MP/M specs/documentation MP/M is a multi-user version of CP/M v2.2. Each user gets their own 48k bank of ram, the upper 16k is the 'executive'. The single processor is switched between users by bank selecting. I don't know if CP/M itself must also squeeze in the 48k, giving each user their own copy of the os. There is a Osborne-Hill guide to CP/M and MP/M with all the system calls - maybe still in print, it (the book, not the os!) was very popular at the time. MP/M gave the user too little memory, a slower than normal processor (due to sharing it with other users), and very rudimentary file control (user numbers). Looked just like standard CP/M to the user, but with the user # in the prompt. I'm much more familiar with NorthStar's varient of MP/M called TSS/C - each user got 56k of Ram to hold a copy of CP/M and their programs, the upper 8k did nothing but switch the z80 between banks and manage the disk(s) and printer(s). There was also a 32k bank dedicated to the system. Worked well but slow. (Five [!] users on one 4mHz Z80 - what did I expect!) NorthStar (and I) replaced TSS/C with TurboDOS, a multi- *processor* system - giving each user a dedicated (z80 or 8086) processor w/Ram with one 'master' processor w/Ram for shared resources. Block diagram looks just like a LAN with all processors in one box. Both systems generally ran only on S100 boxes. Most s100 SBC's (Single-board computers) have TurboDOS drivers available. Bob (rbloom@apg-1.arpa) Bloom ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 23-Feb-89 01:45:29-MST,3580;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 89 01:30:31 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #51 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 23 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 51 Today's Topics: HELP with index's of file{ INFO-CPM Digest V89 #50 One more beginner question... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Feb 89 18:40:28 MST From: Dick Dysart STEWS-TE-LG 6125 Subject: HELP with index's of file{ I am looking for some help in building the file index' for the SIMTEL collection. If in your wanderings thru the SIMTEL collections: PD1: PD1: PD1: PD2: You find a file for which the .IDX files with descriptions are lacking, AND you have a short description along with the Directory, sub-directory, and file name, Send me the information, I am building (slowly) new .IDX files with one line discriptions for inclusion in the collections. As NEW files are added, the .IDX files with discriptions are being added. But, its the older files I'm having trouble getting good discriptions for. Respond to me directly, not the BBOARDs.. Thanks for your help Dick.. rdysart@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 89 16:34 EST From: Lewallen@DOCKMASTER.ARPA Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #50 Reference Echelon + Zex help The hypothesis put forth about being in a false if state was correct. I found out about ZIF, Jay, by trying it as I found XIF did not works, just as predicted. I had remembered reading something about it and it gave me back the system. Thanks for the help from both. Ric Lewallen ------------------------------ Date: 23 Feb 89 03:18:53 GMT From: paravia@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Mark David Kakatsch) Subject: One more beginner question... All right...Thanks to some really great people, I got my last question answered. That, however, just led to another one. If I have a C/PM system disk, how can I modify it so that it would work w/ my serial card and terminal? How could I tell the system disk that my card is addressed as port 4, and that control is at 84, and how can I tell it which bits in the control byte stand for Receive Buffer Full, or Transmit Buffer Full, etc... My main concern here, is, is that even if I get the drives working, I'm relatively sure that I've transhed my System disk. I have another one, but I'm not sure if it'll work. I've heard from a couple of people who have Tarbell equiptment they would sell me, but before I buy anything, I'd like to know if I can USE any of it w/ my present setup... Thanks much! Mark +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Things are not what |Albert Einstien got his name after he got smashed + + they appear to be... |after drinking one stien of beer. Hence; Albert + +________________________|EinStien.___________________________________________+ + Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! |Mark D. Kakatsch --> paravia@csd4.milw.wisc.edu + + Pfhtph! Pfhtpph! Pfhtpf! | uwmcsd1!uwmcsd4!paravia + +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 24-Feb-89 01:34:53-MST,8736;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 24 Feb 89 01:30:11 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #52 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 24 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 52 Today's Topics: Commdore's poor service to its CP/M customers Does ZMP work under CP/M-Plus? Kermit for 8" ACI w/ CP/M V3.0B kermit or [xyz]modem for TurboDOS? S-100 boards and other stuff Small C++ whats ZCPR ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1989 21:08 MST From: Keith Petersen Subject: Commdore's poor service to its CP/M customers After waiting MONTHS for Commodore to ship his 1581 CP/M disk Bob Evinger has had enough. Commdore cashed his check and then claimed the disk wasn't in stock. They have been giving him excuses ever since. WAKE UP, COMMODORE!!!! ---------------------- --Keith Petersen Info-Cpm mailing list maintainer and Manager of the National CP/M RoundTable on GEnie --forwarded message-- Item 2990171 89/02/23 19:35 From: R.EVINGER Robert A. Evinger To: C128.CPM Bill Juliani Sub: 1581 cpm No I have not received the diskette. I have officially requested a refund of my money for it, i.e. I sent a letter with a copy of the cancelled check to the woman I talked to originally. As much as I would like to have it, it just isn't worth the hassle. I dont want to sound negative. I like Commodore equipment, but a company can't live on the hardware alone, they have to be able to provide service. I am a programmer with a 10 million dollar company and I have seen us and others get burned because of the kind of organizations similar Commodore. It is for that reason that I will not support them(CBM) by purchasing any more of their equipment. I don't mean to get wound up, sorry. But that kind of service is just too much. I am to the point that I am probably going to replace this with something else. I have to wait and see on that though. Anyway thanks for the offer, but I think that it is too late for Commodore to mend the fence with me. Maybe we can talk again. I can only hope that somebody at Commodore wises up before it is too late for them. ---end forwarded message--- ------------------------------ Date: 23 Feb 89 11:58:57 GMT From: mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!godzilla.eecg.toronto.edu!lansd@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Robert Lansdale) Subject: Does ZMP work under CP/M-Plus? I can't seem to get ZMP-14 to work with my CP/M-Plus system. When I start it up, the screen clears, the title appears, then I find myself back at the CCP command prompt. I recompiled it to run with the zmp-blnk overlay that came with it (only changing the overlay file source to F0:) but it still wouldn't work. I have a 60k TPA so lack of memory is not the problem. Any suggestions? -- CSNET: lansd%eecg.toronto.edu, ARPA: lansd%eecg.toronto.edu@relay.cs.net Electrical Engineering Computer Group, University of Toronto. ------------------------------ Date: 23 Feb 89 00:38:46 GMT From: agate!saturn!ssyx.ucsc.edu!hermit@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (William R. Ward) Subject: Kermit for 8" ACI w/ CP/M V3.0B I'd like to find a copy of Kermit for an ACI-1 computer (Alspa Computers, a defunct company which used to be in Santa Cruz). The ACI runs on 8" soft-sectored single-sided floppy drive(s), using an IBM-compatible double- density format. It doesn't have any form of transfer protocol (besides PIP) so transferring a file is rather difficult. Does anyone out there in USENET-land know where I can score a copy of Kermit for this machine? I have Kermit on my Commodore 128, but it's a specialized version to handle the bizarre RS232 implementation in the 128 and probably only works with CP/M Plus anyway. Please send mail to hermit@ssyx.ucsc.edu if you have any info. Thanks in advance. -- If creative thoughts could cause sparks, dynamite could safely be stored in this establishment. William R. Ward ------------------------------ Date: 24 Feb 89 00:34:34 GMT From: eichin@athena.mit.edu (Mark W. Eichin) Subject: kermit or [xyz]modem for TurboDOS? Does anyone have *) a version of kermit already modifed to use the TurboDOS T-functions for Comm channel control, and compiled already *) a version of kermit written in Z80 assembler, instead of 8080? (in other words, something that SLR systems' awesome Z80 Assembler will assemble?) *) a version of X,Y,Z, or TMODEM that has either of the above properties? Mark Eichin ps. email and I'll summarize, but post if you can't get through... /Happy Hacking........\\.............Mark Eichin/ ------------------------------ Date: 22 Feb 89 20:14:05 GMT From: uxc!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!harris.cis.ksu.edu!mac@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Myron A. Calhoun) Subject: S-100 boards and other stuff While doing some cleaning, I found several S-100 (and other) boards and other stuff I've accumulated over many years. Is there ANY market for such things now, or should I just trash them? I have: * 3 Solid State Music S-100 music-maker boards (NOT RAM!), * 1 Computalker S-100 board, * 1 Cromemco S-100 DAZZLER board, * 1 MPA S-100 board (adapts a 6502 chip to run on an S-100 bus), * 1 whole VECTOR 4 computer with a 10 MByte hard disk, a 600Kbyte hard-sectored floppy drive, 128Kbyte RAM, a "modified" (i.e., no on-card voltage regulators) S-100 bus, and over 100 diskettes of stuff including dBase II, BCSD (?) C, assembler, a spreadsheet, a word processor, CP/M (8-bit CPU) AND CP/M-86 (16-bit CPU) (and I've been offered a Vector version of MS-DOS for only $80!) * 1 Northstar S-100 Micro Disk controller board, * 4 Northstar 16Kbyte S-100 dynamic RAM boards (fully populated), * 4 Northstar 16Kbyte S-100 dynamic RAM boards (UNpopulated), and * 2 Digital Group 16Kbyte static RAM boards. I'd like to SELL everything, but whatever I do, I've got to make more room in my computer "shack" for incoming stuff! I've been offered a mere pittance for four of the above boards; should I take it and run? Does anyone know where I might find a KONAN DGC-100 hard-disk controller board (and maybe a hard disk to go along with it)? I'd like to add it to my Z-100 using a device driver described in an article I clipped from a mazagine several years ago. --Myron -- Myron A. Calhoun, PhD EE, W0PBV, (913) 532-6350 (work), 539-4448 (home). INTERNET: mac@ksuvax1.cis.ksu.edu BITNET: mac@ksuvax1.bitnet UUCP: ...{rutgers, texbell}!ksuvax1!harry!harv ------------------------------ Date: 24 Feb 89 00:41:29 GMT From: eichin@athena.mit.edu (Mark W. Eichin) Subject: Small C++ Has anyone ever seen a "Small C++"? or any version of C++ targetted for the 8080/Z80, including cross-compilers? I know this is unlikely, but someone just came out with a C++ for the IBM PC, and other than graphics I haven't seen anything for PCDOS that couldn't be (or hadn't been!) done for CP/M... Mark Eichin /Happy Hacking........\\.............Mark Eichin/ ------------------------------ Date: 23 Feb 89 05:25:10 GMT From: hackeron@athena.mit.edu (Harris L Gilliam) Subject: whats ZCPR ? In article <8902082118.AA13233@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> SAGE@LL.ARPA writes: >Local addressee: SAGE >Message-ID: > > >>> Has anyone ported ZCPR to the 128 CPM?? If so, what version and where >>> can I get it? > >Where have you been hiding? We have been offering Z3PLUS, the automatically > > Plu*Perfect Systems Sage Microsystems East > 410 23rd Street 1435 Centre Street > Santa Monica, CA 90402 Newton, MA 02159-2469 > 617-965-3552 > (MC/VISA accepted) I'm new to CPM, so what's ZCPR ? --Harris |Harris L. Gilliam () 4 Ames St. Cambridge MA 02139 | |Internet : hackeron@athena.mit.edu () hgilliam@media-lab.media.mit.edu | |UUCP : {backbone..}!bloom-beacon!mit-eddie!mit-athena!hackeron | ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 25-Feb-89 01:36:43-MST,10516;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 25 Feb 89 01:30:31 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #53 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 25 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 53 Today's Topics: BIOS4 / C128 External Sort Utility Intel hex (*.HEX) format questions (3 msgs) kermit for Whirlpool dishwasher Request for IMSAI board info ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 24 Feb 89 03:47:00 GMT From: pur-phy!tippy!fireman@ee.ecn.purdue.edu Subject: BIOS4 / C128 Could someone tell me what BIOSR4 is? I see it on CPM.C128 on SIMTEL, but I only have mail-server access (no ftp here) and it won't let me get it. I would suppose it is an upgrade, but I have no idea. If it is worthwile, could someone either EMail it (UUE) or give me an address where I could send a disk to??? Rob Dale tippy!Fireman@newton.physics.purdue.edu ------------------------------ Date: 23 Feb 89 20:25:10 GMT From: att!chinet!mihalo@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (William Mihalo) Subject: External Sort Utility I'm looking for a public-domain sort utility that can process large files. Specifically, I'm trying to find a way to alphabetize a list of phrases. If anyone knows whether a public-domain sort utility exists, I'd appreciate it. Bill Mihalo uucp: chinet!mihalo BITNET NMPWEM2@UCHIMVS1 ------------------------------ Date: 24 Feb 89 04:23:57 GMT From: uop!mrapple@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Nick Sayer) Subject: Intel hex (*.HEX) format questions Anyone have some cold, hard facts concerning the Intel .HEX format? I've managed to figure out a little bit of it, and have come up with this: Each line looks like this :10020000C30CDFC308DF7F00202020202020202007 ^ ^ ^ ^^ ^ ^ | | | ||---8 * num bits - data bytes--| | | | | | | | | | | Checksum---------------------+ | | | | | | | +----Always 0. Why? | | | | | +------16 bits - address to start | | | +----------8 bits - the number of bytes on this line | +------------always a : Final line looks like this :0000000000 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ | | | | | | | | | +-------Checksum | | | +---------Always 0. Why? | | +-----------Address. Can be non-zero, but what does that mean? | +---------------Zero bytes on this line +-----------------Always a : What I wonder is; What does the "always 0" byte do? Is it always 0? What is the algorithm for computing the checksum? I believe it is like this (in c, s is the line) int i,csum=0; for(i=1;i>length(s);i+=2) { csum^=((s[i]&15)<<4); csum^=(s[i+1]&15); } What happens when the address in the last line (with 0 length) is non-zero? Does that mean that the entry point is at the noted address or something? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Sayer | mrapple@uop.edu | Packet Radio: N6QQQ @ WB6V-2 uucp: ...!ucbvax!ucdavis!uop!mrapple Disclaimer: "The BBC would like to appologize for that last announcement." cat flames > /dev/null ------------------------------ Date: 24 Feb 89 18:05:54 GMT From: pyramid!prls!gordon@hplabs.hp.com (Gordon Vickers) Subject: Intel hex (*.HEX) format questions In article <1796@uop.edu> mrapple@uop.edu (Nick Sayer) writes: >Anyone have some cold, hard facts concerning the Intel .HEX format? I was going to email this to Mr. Sayer but it seems like something that many would like to know. There are two forms of Intel Hex format. One is often referred to as Intellect format, the other is Extended Intellec. I beleive that the former is also known as Motorala 'S' records. Intellect format: :100000007320457175697320446f7320457175693c : 10 0000 00 7320457175697320446f732045717569 5c | | | | |--------- data ---------------| |- check sum | | | |-- record type, 00 = data, 01 = End record | | |-- start address for data | |- number of bytes in record (normally ten, but last line may have less) |- start of a record, if you don't have this, line is ignored Extended Intellect format As above but recognizes a record type 02. Record type 02 is followd by a four digit base address and the checksum. Addresses in subsequent type 00 and type 01 records are relitive to this base address. This allows address up to FFFFF to be specified. In both formats the checksum is determined by: remove start code and checksum from line ( :5c ) add the remaining bytes together ( 10+00+00+00+73+20.......+69 = A4 ) compilment and add 1 ( A4 xor ff = 5b, 5b + 1 = 5c ) the result is the checksum: 5c This is an oversimplification. Remember to add the values in the bit stream (the actual binary values) and not the ascii values of the numbers that get printed to the record. Don't forget to change the checksum into two ascii digits when tacking it on the the end of the record. Hope this helps. Referance: Stag PP39 device programmer's manual. Gordon Vickers 408/991-5370 (Sunnyvale,Ca); {mips|pyramid|philabs}!prls!gordon Every extinction, whether animal, mineral, or vegetable, hastens our own demise. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Feb 89 20:00:37 GMT From: mailrus!sharkey!atanasoff!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!harris.cis.ksu.edu!mac@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Myron A. Calhoun) Subject: Intel hex (*.HEX) format questions In article <1796@uop.edu> mrapple@uop.edu (Nick Sayer) writes: >Anyone have some cold, hard facts concerning the Intel .HEX format? >I've managed to figure out a little bit of it, and have come up with this: All of my insertions are from Intel's 1977 "MCS-80 USER'S MANUAL", pages 6-75 and 6-76, which describe "Intellec Hex Paper Tape Format". A "BPNF Paper Tape Format", a "Non-Intellec Hex Paper Tape Format", an "Intellec Hex Computer Punched Card Format", and a "PN Computer Punched Card Format" are described on later pages! >Each line looks like this EACH CHARACTER POSITION IS CALLED A "FRAME" >:10020000C30CDFC308DF7F00202020202020202007 >^ ^ ^ ^^ ^ ^ >| | | ||---8 * num bits - data bytes--| | DATA FIELD: frames 9 to 9+2*(record length)-1 >| | | | | >| | | | Checksum---------------------+ CHECKSUM FIELD: the checksum field contains the ASCII hexadecimal representation of the two's complement of the 8-bit sum of the 8-bit bytes that result from converting each pair of ASCII hexadecimal digits to one byte of binary, from the record length field to and including the last byte of the data field. Therefore, the sum of all the ASCII pairs in a record after converting to binary, from the record length field to and including the checksum field, is zero. >| | | | >| | | +----Always 0. Why? RECORD TYPE FIELD: all data records are type 0; end-of-file records are type 1. Other possible values for this field are reserved for future expansion. >| | | >| | +------16 bits - address to start LOAD ADDRESS FIELD; this field in an end-of-file record contains zeros or the starting address of the program >| | >| +----------8 bits - the number of bytes on this line RECORD LENGTH FIELD >| >+------------always a : RECORD MARK FIELD > >Final line looks like this > >:0000000000 >^ ^ ^ ^ ^ >| | | | | >| | | | +-------Checksum >| | | +---------Always 0. Why? RECORD TYPE FIELD: all data records are type 0; end-of-file records are type 1. Other possible values for this field are reserved for future expansion. >| | +-----------Address. Can be non-zero, but what does that mean? LOAD ADDRESS FIELD; this field in an end-of-file record contains zeros or the starting address of the program >| +---------------Zero bytes on this line >+-----------------Always a : --Myron -- Myron A. Calhoun, PhD EE, W0PBV, (913) 532-6350 (work), 539-4448 (home). INTERNET: mac@ksuvax1.cis.ksu.edu BITNET: mac@ksuvax1.bitnet UUCP: ...{rutgers, texbell}!ksuvax1!harry!harv ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 89 10:42:50 EST From: @ll-vlsi.arpa:black@micro Subject: kermit for Whirlpool dishwasher Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Kermit to run on my Whirlpool DS-2133 dishwasher? It runs on 117 VAC, has Scrub and Water Pre-heat modes, and automatic overflow protection. The only way I can get data in and out of it is through the front hatch, which has a wide, but generally steamy, bandwidth. I can't find the RS-232 connector, though, and the Whirlpool 800- tech-help phone person is getting very annoyed with my admittedly naive questions. Thanking you in advance, Jerry G Black, MIT Lincoln Laboratory, 244 Wood St. C-120, Lexington MA 02173 Phone (617) 981-4721 Fax (617) 862-9057 black@micro@LL-VLSI.ARPA ------------------------------ Date: 23 Feb 89 21:04:19 GMT From: aeras!craig@sun.com (Craig Wright) Subject: Request for IMSAI board info I recently purchased an IMSAI 8080 from a computer surplus store. In the box were two cards for which I have no documentation. These two cards are: IMSAI FIB rev3 and IMSAI IFM rev6. These two cards are attached together by a ribbon cable and apparently together form a floppy disk controller. They are vintage 1976 & 1977. If anyone has any documentation on these boards, I would like to hear from you. Port addresses and descriptions would be nice, schematics would be better. Bios listings would be appreciated also. I also purchased 3 IMSAI RAM16 rev 1 cards. These cards work and have only address jumpers to decipher, but I would like to have schematics. If anyone has schematics for this card I would like to hear from you. Thanks Craig Wright 408 922-8385 UUCP: sun!arete!aeras!craig ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 26-Feb-89 01:55:33-MST,8614;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 26 Feb 89 01:31:03 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #54 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 26 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 54 Today's Topics: Boards 'N Stuff INFO-CPM Digest V89 Intel hex (*.HEX) format questions Kermit for 8" ACI w/ CP/M V3.0B Monroe OC8820??? Televideo Terminal Programs &c ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1989 21:38 EST From: Bruce Ide Subject: Boards 'N Stuff 1) What is a Vector-4? 2) If it is old and/or crufty and I can really get into the hardware and neat stuff like that, how much would you be willing to sell it for? In order to avoid cluttering this conversation, could you e-mail directly to me, Bitnet adress XD2W@purccvm. I would go direct to you, but I forgot to look at your adress before replying :-( -Grey Fox ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1989 21:38 EST From: Bruce Ide Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 Everyone has heard about the new object oriented language, C++. Is there any truth to the rumor that there is a new object oriented cobol out, ADD 1 TO COBOL? -Grey Fox ------------------------------ Date: 24 Feb 89 21:25:03 GMT From: osu-cis!n8emr!uncle!oink!jep@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (James E. Prior) Subject: Intel hex (*.HEX) format questions In article <1796@uop.edu> mrapple@uop.edu (Nick Sayer) writes: 0) { if ((c=getchar())>='0' && c<='9') sum=0x10*sum+c-'0'+0x0; else if (c>='a' && c<='f') sum=0x10*sum+c-'a'+0xa; else if (c>='A' && c<='F') sum=0x10*sum+c-'A'+0xA; else if (c==EOF) { fprintf(stderr,"ERROR: Encountered EOF when expecting hexadecimal digits in line #%d\n",line_number); exit(1); } else { fprintf(stderr,"ERROR: Encountered character '%c' when expecting hexadecimal digits in line #%d\n",c,line_number); exit(1); } } input_checksum+=sum; return sum; } /******************************************************************************/ if ((c=getchar())!=':') { if (c==EOF) { fprintf(stderr,"WARNING: Missing end record for input\n"); fprintf(stderr,"Coping as best can\n"); clean_up(); exit(1); } else { fprintf(stderr,"ERROR: Encountered line (#%d) beginning with character other than colon\n",line_number); exit(1); } } input_checksum=0; data_length=get_byte(); high_load_address=get_byte(); low_load_address=get_byte(); load_address=(high_load_address<<8) + low_load_address; record_type=get_byte(); for (i=0;i hermit@ssyx.ucsc.edu (William R. Ward) writes: >I'd like to find a copy of Kermit for an ACI-1 computer (Alspa Computers, >a defunct company which used to be in Santa Cruz). The ACI runs on 8" >soft-sectored single-sided floppy drive(s), using an IBM-compatible double- >density format. It doesn't have any form of transfer protocol (besides PIP) >so transferring a file is rather difficult. William, I do not have kermit for the Alspa, but I do have MDM740, which I use extensively on my ACI-2DS. It handles MODEM7/XMODEM protocol, and supposedly batch mode (which I've never seen work, but I don't know if it's MDM740 or the unix xmodem I'm using...). Let me know if you would like this - it is at least *a* file transfer protocol... BTW, who ported CP/M 3.0 to the system? That was never done while I worked there, and after I left the company sank all its efforts (and everything else) into the ACI-Zero! (Or is that the BIOS revision number? If the latter, you might be interested in v3.6 - I've done numerous improvements to it in the past few years, including ZCPR3 and P2DOS compatibility..) -- William Swan ..!tikal.Teltone.COM!sigma!bill Innocent but in prison in Washington State for 13.5 years: Debbie Runyan: incarcerated 01/1989, scheduled release 07/2002. In now: 0 years, 1 month, 0 weeks, 4 days. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Feb 89 22:03 EST From: Me Subject: Monroe OC8820??? I've just acquired a Monroe OC8820 CP/M-compatible machine, but I can't find any technical data or software info. I've discovered only that it's a Z-80A, 128K RAM (16K for video), 2 320K floppy drives,and supports both CP/M and Monroe's own operating system. Any info would be greatly appreciated, especially regarding what other manufacturer's CP/M might let me start it up. Monroe still exists, and they offer software support, but only at great expense ($195 for the CP/M system disk alone!!!). Many thanks, Daniel Emmer v393vlqr@ubvms.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: 25 Feb 89 05:39:38 GMT From: astroatc!nicmad!madnix!rat@speedy.wisc.edu (David Douthitt) Subject: Televideo Terminal Programs &c Can anyone help my friend out? He has recently acquired a Televideo TS803H and wants to use it for communications, but he currently has no communications programs for it at all. He runs it in single-user mode. He also owns a Macintosh SE, and I own an Apple II, but I don't think either of those can help. Are there any overlays for the 803H for MEX or QTerm? Are there any Televideo user groups out there? Where would you suggest he go for more information? Thanks for all your help. [david] PS: He doesn't have UseNet access (yet), so respond to me... -- ======== David Douthitt :::: Madison, WI :::: The Stainless Steel Rat ======== FidoNet: 1:121/1 or 1:121/2 {decvax|att}! UseNet: ...{rutgers|ucbvax|harvard}!uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!madnix!rat ArpaNet: madnix!rat@cs.wisc.edu {uunet|ncoast}!marque! ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 27-Feb-89 01:42:29-MST,5477;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 27 Feb 89 01:30:24 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #55 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 27 Feb 89 Volume 89 : Issue 55 Today's Topics: BBS software for ZCPR3 C-128 info Sequencer software for CP/M (Midi thing) Tarbell Electronics Televideo Terminal Programs &c ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 Feb 89 14:05 +0100 From: Knut Rogde Subject: BBS software for ZCPR3 Does anybody have BBS software for ZCPR3 ? I don't have anonymous ftp, so please tell me where I can get hold of it. Knut ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sunday, 26 February 1989 16:12-MST From: Raymond Carter STEWS-NR-AD 678-1536 Subject: C-128 info For those who have requested info, I offer the following: 1. nearly all problems associated with using a centronics printer with CP/M can be fixed with CONF. A P.D. program available from Simtel, Genie, Compuserve, FOG. The problem is that the system puts out PETascii by default, and some characters are not direct translations. What you need to do is get the system to put out true ASCII, and convince the interface to do nothing. Assuming a secondary address of 5 does that for your interface (works for Cardco +G) you issue CONF PRT1=ASCII5 I do it in my PROFILE.SUB file. Just substitute your sec. address for transparent mode for the 5. 2. BIOS3 and BIOS4 are modified source code for generating a modified CP/M+ system. They take care of things like setting the system up for ASCII (see above), eliminating all the 40 column drivers, etc. 3. CP/M+ on the 128 can be speeded up significantly by using CONF to shut off the 40 col screen, and reducing the baud rate. Your terminal program will reset it as needed. The command is CONF 40COL=OFF,BAUD=75. You can also use CONF to set some decent screen colors. I use dark blue screen with yellow text. 4. If you have any questions I can probably put you on the right track. I also have access to the SIMTEL, and will be happy to send any of the Commodore specific stuff if you send a blank disk - just get in touch. 5. FOG is the best remaining source of CP/M info. Their address is PO Box 3474, Daly City, CA 94015-0474. One year membership is $30, and includes subscription to FOGHORN - monthly CP/M newsletter, and access to their library. ------------------------------ Date: 26 Feb 89 14:14 +0100 From: Knut Rogde Subject: Sequencer software for CP/M (Midi thing) Do you know of any sequencer software for CP/M ? Source is nessecary so that I can modify it to go with my home-built hardware. Please tell me if you know of anything like this. For those who don't know what a sequencer is : It's normally a box that can record the the key's you press on a synthesizer, and play it back to the synthesizer, while you play another synth. Knut ------------------------------ Date: 27 Feb 89 05:42:55 GMT From: mailrus!cwjcc!hal!ncoast!mikes@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mike Squires) Subject: Tarbell Electronics > > No, they're not. However, I have a boot disk for some form of a Tarbell >system. If you can tell me a little more about your configuration, maybe I >can help you. Which disk controller do you have? > I have boot floppies/socs and BIOS sources for both the SD and DD Tarbell controllers, they are both very late releases (1982/83). I still use my IMSAI with a DD Tarbell controller driving two Tandon 848-2 floppies. Mike Squires Allegheny College Meadville, PA 16335 814 332 3347 uucp: ..!cwjcc!ncoast!{mikes,peng!sir-alan!mikes} or ..!pitt!sir-alan!mikes BITNET: mikes%sir-alan@pitt.UUCP (VAX) MIKES AT SIR-ALAN!PITT.UUCP (IBM) Internet: sir-alan!mikes@vax.cs.pittsburgh.edu or mikes@NCoast.ORG ------------------------------ Date: 26 Feb 89 21:13:55 GMT From: amdahl!pacbell!sactoh0!bkbarret@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Brent K. Barrett) Subject: Televideo Terminal Programs &c In article <507@madnix.UUCP>, rat@madnix.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes: > Can anyone help my friend out? He has recently acquired a Televideo > TS803H and wants to use it for communications, but he currently has no > communications programs for it at all. He runs it in single-user mode. The 803H and the 803/TPC share common serial port setups, so it might help to look for TeleVideo TPC comm programs or those for just an 803. I have Modem7 for the 803, and can place it in the biaries section for you if you like, or I can upload an overlay for the 803/TPC here for you to patch into M7 (or MEX/IMP). It's really a common system, so it shouldn't be hard to find the proper programs or overlays at your local RCP/M or GEnie, or CompuServe, et al. -- "Somebody help me! I'm trapped in this computer!" Brent Barrett ..pacbell!sactoh0!bkbarret GEMAIL: B.K.BARRETT ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ******************************