7-Apr-91 14:02:27-MDT,5227;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 5-Apr-91 02:14:01 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 5 Apr 91 02:14:01 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #70 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910405021401.V91N70@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 5 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 70 Today's Topics: Anyone know what this is? Bernoulli boxes Re: com program needed Re: Zilog autobaud detect / Zilog chip sources Zilog autobaud detect / Zilog chip sources ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 4 Apr 91 11:28:28 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!cwcst1@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Carol Coates) Subject: Anyone know what this is? Message-ID: <111237@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. I'm getting a Z80 machine that I know very little about. It will come with 2 720K drives, 192K RAM, a Z80, and 3 serial ports (1 for console). It is called: "Altos Computer Systems Z80 mini computer" It says, on the mother board, "615-11071-001 REV" I'm getting software with it, as well as a schematic. I think I know someone with an owner's manual - but I would like to know if anyone on this feed has one of these machines. I'm not new to CP/M as I have a Kaypro 10, 2 Osborne 1's, and a Sol-20 (that I finally got to boot CP/M 2.2 :-) I would appreciate any comments (both positive and negative) Take care. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Apr 91 17:45:45 GMT From: aunro!aupair.cs.athabascau.ca!tech@g.ms.uky.edu (Richard Loken) Subject: Bernoulli boxes Message-ID: <1595@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca> I just read an article in the January Computer Journal about installing a Bernoulli drive which looked interesting. there is just one small problem. What is a Bernoulli box and where whould you find one? -- Richard Loken VE6BSV : "In England, Justice is Athabasca University, Athabasca, Alberta Canada : open to all, like the tech@cs.AthabascaU.CA : Ritz Hotel." - Lord {atha|aunro}!cs.athabascau.ca!tech : Justice Sir James Mathew ------------------------------ Date: 2 Apr 91 19:10:39 GMT From: hpcc05!hpyhde1!hpycla!hpcuhc!mck@hplabs.hpl.hp.com (Doug McKenzie) Subject: Re: com program needed Message-ID: <2050002@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com> > mcaldon@cdp.UUCP writes: > > > >Does anyone know where I can lay my hands on a communications program > >that will transmit and receive CP/M files? mcaldon, EcoNet. > > > For what machine? Apple 2e with Z80 card. Doug McKenzie (mcaldonson) ------------------------------ Date: 4 Apr 91 21:08:34 GMT From: mintaka!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!boingo.med.jhu.edu!dave@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (David Heath) Subject: Re: Zilog autobaud detect / Zilog chip sources Message-ID: <1991Apr4.210834.21957@boingo.med.jhu.edu> linkr@groupw.cns.vt.edu (Roger Link) writes: >- Looking for a good source for Zilog chips. I need Z8530's (10Mhz), > and Z84C13 IPC's. I define good as a supplier that: > - Has the chips > - Can do COD or preferably VISA > - Doesn't mind 5/10/15 quantities (I want at least 5 of everything!!) >The Z84x1x IPC are new "Intelligent Peripheral Controllers". They >have a 10Mhz Z80, SIO, CTC, Watch Dog timer, PIO (on some models), and >clock generator, wait state generator, and auto power on reset (some >models). All of this in a 84-pin PLCC or 100 pin quad flat pack!!! Please post the responses. -dave heath ------------------------------ Date: 4 Apr 91 16:42:14 GMT From: vtserf!groupw.cns.vt.edu@uunet.uu.net (Roger Link) Subject: Zilog autobaud detect / Zilog chip sources Message-ID: <1557@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> - Looking for auto baud detection code (Z80, pascal, etc.) for for a Zilog SCC (Z8530/Z8030) or SIO??? - Looking for a good source for Zilog chips. I need Z8530's (10Mhz), and Z84C13 IPC's. I define good as a supplier that: - Has the chips - Can do COD or preferably VISA - Doesn't mind 5/10/15 quantities (I want at least 5 of everything!!) The Z84x1x IPC are new "Intelligent Peripheral Controllers". They have a 10Mhz Z80, SIO, CTC, Watch Dog timer, PIO (on some models), and clock generator, wait state generator, and auto power on reset (some models). All of this in a 84-pin PLCC or 100 pin quad flat pack!!! From my point of view, these chips give the 8051/6811/etc. microcontrollers a run for their money!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Link BITNET : LINKR @ VTVM1 VA. Tech Physics INTERNET : LINKR@GROUPW.CNS.VT.EDU Blacksburg VA. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #70 ************************************ 7-Apr-91 16:43:38-MDT,7540;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 2-Apr-91 17:45:19 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 2 Apr 91 17:45:19 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #68 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910402174519.V91N68@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 2 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 68 Today's Topics: Apple II/III CPM communications prog? Information on Compilers Still Available Re: CP/M Emulators (2 msgs) Re: Epson Geneva Request: CP/M under Unix. Summary will follow later. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 Mar 91 04:56:12 GMT From: agate!pasteur!volga.Berkeley.EDU!c188-br@apple.com (Calvin Cheng) Subject: Apple II/III CPM communications prog? Message-ID: <12312@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> I have just acquired an Apple /// and am thinking of using the /// as a terminal to log on to Unix on the Mac (direct connect). So I need to look for a terminal program that emulates the VT100 and supports preferrably Kermit file transfer. Now I have spent quite a lot of time working on CP/M on the Apple II and still have quite a few CP/M disks (but not term programs). I was going thru the Sun Remarketing catalog which has a SoftCard ///. Since the only Apple /// program that I know of that supports VT100 emulation is the Access ///, I'm really thinking of getting CP/M running on the ///. From what I know, SoftCard /// seems to be the same card as SoftCard for the II except that the OS is patched to work on the ///. Will I still be able to run Apple II CP/M programs (I mean use the same disks) on the ///? How much memory does Apple /// CP/M support since it sure addresses a lot more than the APple II. I believe I wouldnt be able to boot off an Apple II CP/M disks but hopefully I can run programs directly. Next is what comm program should I use? I've seen references to QTerm etc. And I vaguely remember names like CrossTalk (I wasn't into those things when I was using CP/M on the II). Thanx Calvin Cheng << The Best is Yet to Be! >> ------------------------------ Date: 2 Apr 91 12:44:46 GMT From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!umich!terminator!usenet@ucsd.edu (Gerald E. Peck) Subject: Information on Compilers Still Available Message-ID: <1991Apr2.073635@circus.news.org> I am interested in compiling a list of compilers still available for CP/M, both public domain & otherwise. Anyone with information on a compiler and how/where it may be obtained please respond. Also, if anyone knows if Turbo Pascal and Z80 Turbo Modula-2 are still available for CP/M I would like to know. ----- Gerald E. Peck The Circus of Life ..!uunet!mailrus!btech!mnet!gerund ------------------------------ Date: 2 Apr 91 18:54:45 GMT From: vax5.cit.cornell.edu!asfy@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu Subject: Re: CP/M Emulators Message-ID: <1991Apr2.145445.3810@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> In article <9163@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, wilker@gauss.math.purdue.edu (Clarence Wilkerson) writes: > The main hassles in writing a 8080 emulator ( or worse, Z80 emulator) > are getting the condition codes (flags) exactly right. Another > slowdown is if the host machine for the emulator has a different > byte order than the 8080 for words. To my knowledge, this stacks > up as > 8080, 80X86, VAX, 32032?? ....LITTLE_ENDIAN > 680X0, RS6000, SPARC BIG_ENDIAN. > But the flags are a major slowdown, and more if you include > parity, half parity, and so on. > In C ,one has to do extra arithmetic to compute the flags, such > as carrying more digits to detect overflows. In assembler, > you can try to match your host CPU flags to the 8080/Z80 flags, > but there are lots of gotchas there. Later versions of Joan Riff's [...] > Clarence There's a sneaky way around this that should do wonders: If you're on a big enough machine with enough memory, you precalculate all possible 8-bit adds and subtracts, with and without carries, and a couple of basic logical operations. You end up with a small pile of 128k tables-- which is just fine in this day of 4 MB SIMM modules. The entire addition or subtraction, complete with flags register, is reduced to a table lookup. All this to emulate a 64k machine running an 8k operating system... Are you the person responsible for the Japanese CP/M emulator running on the Sun at math.purdue.edu? Do you know where I can get the source to that thing? I'm occasionally working on my own emulator :) and I like to see what other people have done. --jh ------------------------------ Date: 2 Apr 91 23:11:46 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!know!news.cs.indiana.edu!news.nd.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!descartes.math.purdue.edu!wilker@ucsd.edu (Clarence Wilkerson) Subject: Re: CP/M Emulators Message-ID: <9354@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> I'm responsible for the CP/M emulator running on 128.210.3.18. I imported the source from utsun in Japan a year or so ago, and managed to get it to run. The docs were in kanji and didn't print! I'm willing to post the source, but the documentation on hooking it up to a cp/m binary system is very incomplete. It only does 8080 code, and I don't have any PD CP/M replacements in strict 8080 code, so it's running DRI CP/M 2.2 out of the box. The bios is a stub of course. Clarence ------------------------------ Date: 2 Apr 91 19:47:42 GMT From: agate!stanford.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!crdgw1!a101!swilliam@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (U-E99999-Stephen Williams) Subject: Re: Epson Geneva Message-ID: wdlee@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (david lee) writes: >Anyone know where I might find an Epson Geneva laptop. It's a cute >portable CPM machine. Thanks, >David I have an Epson PX-8 (Geneva I believe) that I might part with. It has 64k ram, micro-cassette drive, basic, wordstar, calc, cpm utilities, serial cables, etc. 8x80 screen if I remember right. sdw -- -- Stephen D. Williams SDW Systems (513) 439-5428 GE AEG (513) 552-5237 ICBM: 39 34N 85 15W Internet: swilliam@a101.even.ge.com sdwsys!sdw@valhalla.cs.wright.edu ------------------------------ Date: 1 Apr 91 19:06:50 GMT From: eru!hagbard!sunic!dkuug!imada!ravn@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen) Subject: Request: CP/M under Unix. Summary will follow later. Message-ID: <1991Apr1.190650.14117@imada.dk> Within the last months people regulary talk about either running Unix versions of CP/M programs or emulating CP/M under unix. I would like to get a CP/M emulator running on our machines (Sun 3 & Sun 4), but I haven't succeded in finding one that I could make run (within a reasonable amount of time :). I therefore request of those who are in the process of creating such beasts to email me, with ftp-download instructions. After testing each briefly, I will compile a list and post it here in comp.os.cpm. Details will follow -- Thorbjorn Ravn Andersen "Normally I kill people for money, but you are ravn@imada.dk my friend; I will kill you for nothing" Chico Marx ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #68 ************************************ 7-Apr-91 18:47:50-MDT,11482;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 3 Apr 91 21:15:36 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #69 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910403211537.V91N69@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 3 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 69 Today's Topics: PacPerson Re: Help: Documentation, information, et cetera. Re: need info on OSM Computer Corp. machine Re: Want to swap 5 inch to 8 inch floppy S-100 Color Graphics? Sanyo MBC-1000 Interrupts STD Bus ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Apr 91 11:26:37 -0400 From: EUDOH@sctnve.BITNET Subject: PacPerson Message-ID: <5B04030B190A01A1-SCTNVE*EUDOH@sctnve> hi, Would the individual who was accepting requests for PacPerson, please send me a copy or either contact me.... thank you.... ........................................................................ : << Eudoh@sctnve.bitnet >> ============================ : : /|\ \\ Cyber Lab Consultant // : ) : // Etop Udoh \\ \\ & // : : ) : ------ A2 ------ \\ Computer Operator // : : //!\\ \\\\\\\\ ==================== : : : // \\ !! Computer Operations : : //!!!!!\\ //////// Southern College of Technology : : // \\ !! Marietta, Georgia 30060 : : : // \\ \\\\\\\\ : : Sometimes you just gotta say "what the f*ck" : :......................................................................: ------------------------------ Date: 2 Apr 91 17:20:35 GMT From: att!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!tellab5!laidbak!amiganet!austral!rrezaian@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Russell Rezaian) Subject: Re: Help: Documentation, information, et cetera. Message-ID: In article <9046@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> wilker@gauss.math.purdue.edu (Clarence Wilkerson) writes: >Sorry, no experience with Zeus MP/M type stuff. >However, on the subject of disk drives, any St-506 >innerface drives I've used will cheerfully allow you to >use them at less than full capacity. So if the number of >logical heads is less than or equal to number of physical >head, and same for cylinders, almost any other >drive should replace the ones you have. For example, >Seagate ST251 's have 6 heads, and 820?? cylinders, and >are going new for about $250. Unfortunately, the cheaper >bargain drives such as ST225 only have four heads and would >not plug right in. > >If the drive controller is SCSI, then the operating system >may think it reading a certain track and sector, but actually >eventually asks for an absolute sector number, so if the >scsi controller has set the correct parameters the operating >system would not know what it has physically. > >Poke around under the hood and see what kind of hard disk >controller is there? >Clarence > > I did a little checking, the controller is labeld WD1000 (like how many othert hard drive controllers...) the cable connecting it to the system is NOT a standard SCSI, the interface might still use a similar protocol, but I doubt it. We do have the pretty common looking large brown cermic chip at the bottom, but it isn't labeled coherently, there are what looks like a couple o Western Digital PALs floating around, as well as a few other PALs. I have been able to substitute other drives, and that did work, sort of... The only problem s that is it painfull to end up using 15 megs of a 40 meg drive... I would sooner dissassemble the sysgen and re-engineer the bios than waste that much space... Thanks for your ideas though, I might end up doing that anyway... -- +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Russell Rezaian | amiganet.chi.il.us!austral!rrezaian | | P.O. Box 479 | | | Naperville, Il. 60566-0479 | "One is best punished for one's | | USA | Virtues." Nietzsche. | +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 2 Apr 91 17:29:04 GMT From: att!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!tellab5!laidbak!amiganet!austral!rrezaian@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Russell Rezaian) Subject: Re: need info on OSM Computer Corp. machine Message-ID: In article <25251@hydra.gatech.EDU> harold@wayward.gatech.edu (Harold C. Forbes) writes: >Someone gave me a couple of OSM machines with no documentation. >If I can find out something about them I would rather use them >than break them up for parts. I have a Kaypro 10 so I'm not >a novice at CPM, but I'm not up to re-writing a BIOS either. > >When it boots, I get the following message on one of the ports. >If I ^C after it says running, I can do CPM type stuff, like the >dir listing following. The floppy seems to be P:, but I can't >read the floppy I found in the machine. I think it was origonally >used for accounting stuff. I don't know if it was a turn-key system >or what. > >Thanks for any info. > > harold [...] >FORBES, HAROLD C. N5JCM >Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 >uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!cc!harold >ARPA: harold@cc.gatech.edu >FORBES, HAROLD C. N5JCM >Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 >uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!cc!harold >ARPA: harold@cc.gatech.edu You have a ZEUS 4, I have one myself, it is a nifty little machine, it is both CP/M and MP/M compatible. Inside you will find three cards. On eis the HD controller, the middle one is the master cpu and the last one is the slave CPU board. On the slave board there should either be 2 or 4 entire z80 based computers. Theres are all "Networked" to the master board througha 20 cond ribbon on the side. Connect your terminal to a different port on the back of the computer, the one marked U1C and you will be able to use it in multi user mode. There is a login password system, so you might have to find out what the passwords are. I have a copy of the documentation for the O/S and I have a Z4 sysgen program for a 20 meg drive. If yoou are interested E-Mail me and I will be happy to help in any way I can. I am STILL looking for tech docs for the machines though, sigh... -- +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Russell Rezaian | rrezaian@austral.UUCP | | P.O. Box 479 | rrezaian@amiganet.chi.il.us | | Naperville, Il. 60566-0479 | "One is best punished for one's | | USA | Virtues." Nietzsche. | +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1991 10:29:52 PST From: Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com Subject: Re: Want to swap 5 inch to 8 inch floppy Message-ID: <" 3-Apr-91 13:29:52 EST".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com> Jim Rees, I wrote a long note replying to your question, but can't seem to send it to you. The address in the "From" field is to long for my Mail Tool, and when I tried sending to what I thought it really was, it bounced with an unknown name. Send me your Internet address, and I will resend the message. For everyone else, Since there are a lot of different networks connected up here, please include your address in your messages, so that others can much more easily contact you if needed. It's not always obvious. ~ Mike (Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.Com) ------------------------------ Date: 2 Apr 91 19:59:42 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!bbn.com!gonzalez@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Jim Gonzalez) Subject: S-100 Color Graphics? Message-ID: <63514@bbn.BBN.COM> I've become interested in playing with color graphics. Since I have an S-100 based CP/M system (a Cromemco System Three), I'm hoping to start with a color graphics card for it. Cromemco made a card called the Dazzler, which apparently was *very* low in both color and pixel resolution. I've also seen reference to the SDI, which may simply have been the order model number for the Dazzler. In either case, these boards have the advantage of being known to work in my machine. A quick search of back issues of Byte magazine revealed that the only other likely choice is a Microangelo, which was produced by Scion, of California. They stopped adverising it in late 1983, and started promoting a similarly-featured board for the IBM PC. One of the nice things about this board was that one could install multiple boards to increase color resolution. They listed for about $700 each. Does anyone have such a board they'd be interested in selling, or know where I might locate one? I'd also be interested in a color terminal (slow, but it works). -Jim. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Apr 91 20:45:02 GMT From: theory.tn.cornell.edu!gould@THEORY.TN.CORNELL.EDU (EWD) Subject: Sanyo MBC-1000 Interrupts Message-ID: <1991Apr3.204502.19423@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> Greetings: I've come up with a use for my Sanyo MBC-1000 that requires a fairly good idea of the passage of time. Since it has no clock (or does it?), I was going to write myself characters at 300 baud with an isr to update a counter and start over (seemed like a good kluge at the time.) But looking at the schematic I saw an 8253-5 interval timer just sitting there doing nothing and was delighted to think I could do it right. So I can load the timer and read the contents, but I need to keep track of each time it times out timer 1, every half hour or so. It looks like this can be done by setting it up to generate an interrupt and incrementing a counter in memory, but I don't see how all this works by looking at the schematic. I can do it by polling the timer values in a keyboard-idle loop, but would prefer to try the interrupt route first. Can anybody give me a rundown on how to go about this? Thanks, Eliot Eliot W. Dudley edudley@rodan.acs.syr.edu RD 1, Box 66 Cato, New York 13033 315 437 0534 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1991 09:19:52 PST From: Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com Subject: STD Bus Message-ID: <" 3-Apr-91 12:19:52 EST".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com> I found a place to get some STD Bus cards cheap. Problem is that I don't know anything about the STD Bus. Can anyone give me any information on them? Specifically, how many pins are on the bus, and what are they designated as? Thanks!! ~ Mike NS mail: Sprague:Wbst311:Xerox Internet: Sprague.Wbst311@Xrox.Com ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #69 ************************************ 8-Apr-91 01:10:48-MDT,7741;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 8-Apr-91 01:00:06 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 8 Apr 91 01:00:05 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #71 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910408010006.V91N71@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 8 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 71 Today's Topics: Geneva Source Irv Hoff Looking for... PerfectWriter upgrade wanted Re: Zilog autobaud detect / Zilog chip sources ZSweep -- An update to NSWP ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 Apr 91 20:36:03 -0400 From: secrist@msdoa1.ENET.DEC.COM (Strong data types for weak minds.) Subject: Geneva Source Message-ID: <9104080036.AA29691@decuac.DEC.COM> An outfit called SynderScope International carries a complete line of Epson Geneva stuff, including new and used systems, hard disks, ROMs, source for the BIOS & utilities: the works ! They're legit and prompt; standard disclaimers. They do not accept credit cards. SnyderScope International; 1594 Hilltop Drive; El Cajon, CA 92020. 619/442-2299. rcs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 91 23:10:42 -0500 From: ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Subject: Irv Hoff Message-ID: <9104060410.AA08436@cwns2.INS.CWRU.Edu> I am unhappy to relay the following message, which I download from the Drexel Hill RCP/M. Irv Hoff was one of a select circle of CP/M gurus. He authored much of the software that we CP/Mers use on a regular basis. Even though he has most recently been involved in IBM, he will be missed by the CP/M community. ********************* #: 8904 S9/ Potpourri 04-Apr-91 15:10:45 Sb: Irv Hoff has passed Fm: Sysop John Deakin 76702,310 To: All I'm sorry to report that Irv Hoff died peacefully at home yesterday, after a long and gallant battle with cancer. His wife, Arlene Hoff, called my wife in Seattle to give the news, but left no other information. I am attempting to call her, but I doubt seriously that I will be able to get through. I'm sure cards and/or flowers would be appreciated. Arlene Hoff 12130 Foothill Lane Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 I will advise if I hear anything further. -- Ed Grey \*\ Sysop of The Grey Matter BBS & RCP/M 213-971-6260 P.O. Box #2186 \*\ Bitnet: ac959%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm Inglewood, CA 90305 \*\ Internet: ac959@cleveland.freenet.edu USA \**\ voice: 213-759-7406 \**\ Fidonet: 1:102/752 ------------------------------ Date: 5 Apr 91 14:05:50 GMT From: aurs01!luce@uunet.uu.net (J. Luce) Subject: Looking for... Message-ID: <59709@aurs01.UUCP> Anyone know where I can get PICS bbs software? Last I was aware of was PICS16. Along this same line, anyone have a used copy of Turbo Pascal for CP/M for sale (along with the manual). Preferably on Kaypro 5.25 format, but I would love it on 8" SSDD also. Cheap, btw... since I am only going to use it for the PICS stuff, I really don't want to pay full freight via Jay Sage (although the price is reasonable through him, it is too high for a one-timer ). Thanks, y'all. ------------------------------------------------------------------- John Luce | Life is the leading cause of death Alcatel Network Systems | ----------------------------------------- Raleigh, NC | Standard Disclaimer Applies 919-850-6787 | Mail? Here? Try aurs01!aurw46!luce@mcnc.org | or ...!mcnc!aurgate!luce -------------------------------- or John.Luce@f130.n151.z1.fidonet.org ------------------------------ Date: 5 Apr 91 17:00:35 GMT From: usc!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!news.cs.indiana.edu!msi.umn.edu!cs.umn.edu!ariel.unm.edu!cie!kgowen@ucsd.edu (Kevin Gowen) Subject: PerfectWriter upgrade wanted Message-ID: <1991Apr05.170035.7111@ariel.unm.edu> Hello, CP/M world! A friend of mine who owns a Kaypro portable (model/type unknown) is looking for an upgrade to his PerfectWriter version 1.2 word processor. If anybody has a later version he/she would be willing to part with, or if anybody can provide me with appropriate pointers where to look further, please let me know. You can post here, or e-mail me. Thanks in advance. -kevin kgowen@cie.uoregon.edu ------------------------------ Date: 6 Apr 91 07:04:11 GMT From: mintaka!ogicse!qiclab!techbook!fzsitvay@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Frank Zsitvay) Subject: Re: Zilog autobaud detect / Zilog chip sources Message-ID: <1991Apr6.070411.16610@techbook.com> In article <1557@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> linkr@groupw.cns.vt.edu (Roger Link) writes: > >The Z84x1x IPC are new "Intelligent Peripheral Controllers". They >have a 10Mhz Z80, SIO, CTC, Watch Dog timer, PIO (on some models), and >clock generator, wait state generator, and auto power on reset (some >models). All of this in a 84-pin PLCC or 100 pin quad flat pack!!! > >From my point of view, these chips give the 8051/6811/etc. >microcontrollers a run for their money!! not to mention, cp/m on a chip. add a disk controller, some rom, some ram, and other odds and ends and you'd have an extremely low parts count cp/m machine. if someone could be so good as to even post estimated prices for these toys, i'd REALLY appreciate it. -- fzsitvay@techbook.COM - but don't quote me on that.... American Oil Company motto - Bend over, We'll pump!!! ------------------------------ Date: 7 Apr 91 00:28:51 GMT From: aunro!ersys!davem@lll-winken.llnl.gov (Dave McCrady) Subject: ZSweep -- An update to NSWP Message-ID: Pete Pardoe of Truro, N.S has disassembled and updated the work of a fellow Canadian, Dave Rand, for Z-System users. His implementation of NSWP is called ZSWEEP. Pete's release notes follow. The file -- ZS10.LBR -- is available for download from my BBS at +1 403-454-6093 (300-9600 bps [HST], 24 hours). If the keeper of the net's CP/M archives would be kind enough to provide an address, I'd be happy to send a copy there as well. ----- ZS10.LBR contains ZSWEEP 1.0 which is NSWP207 disassembled and converted to a Z system utility. It has full support for named directories the ability to execute or act upon the current file and a psuedo Z system prompt from which you may execute any valid Z system command line up to 127 characters in length. It requires ZCPR 3.3 or later with an extended TCAP as specified by VLIB4D. The current release does not support user areas above 15, due to the fact that my system is Z3PLUS which does not support user areas above 15 so I was unable to implement user areas 16-31. However Bruce Morgan has graciously consented to assist in bringing this feature to ZSWEEP so expect it in the near future. The release of this program has the blessing of Dave Rand for which I express my gratitude to him. April 5, 1991 - Pete Pardoe Truro N.S. Canada ---- Dave McCrady | ersys!davem@nro.cs.athabascau.ca +1 403-454-4054 (voice) | Disclaimer? Who needs a disclaimer? +1 403-454-6093 (public USENET) | I >own< the joint. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #71 ************************************ 9-Apr-91 15:29:40-MDT,9745;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 9 Apr 91 15:15:21 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #72 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910409151522.V91N72@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 9 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 72 Today's Topics: CP/M compilers cry for help IRV HOFF DEAD Needed: z80 computer on an XT/AT board... NovaDOS RE: Compilers Re: Finding System Software. Re: Irv Hoff Software Sources? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Apr 91 05:20:57 -0400 From: ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Subject: CP/M compilers Message-ID: <9104090920.AA23901@cwns1.INS.CWRU.Edu> I am interested in compiling a list of compilers still available for CP/M, both public domain & otherwise. Anyone with information on a compiler and how/where it may be obtained please respond. Also, if anyone knows if Turbo Pascal and Z80 Turbo Modula-2 are still available for CP/M I would like to know. ----- Gerald E. Peck The Circus of Life ..!uunet!mailrus!btech!mnet!gerund ********************** Gerald, I currently sell the MIX C Compiler and Turbo Pascal 3.01A, both for CP/M. The MIX C Compiler is a complete K&R implementation of the C programming language. System requirements are: CP/M 80 (2.0 or higher) 55K Memory 2 disk drives or HD Z80 CPU Price is $20.00 plus $5.00 S&H in contenental US (CA must add 7% sales tax.) The Turbo Pascal (for CP/M) is identical to Borland's product though it is now distributed and supported by Alpha Systems. System requirements are: CP/M 80 (2.2 or higher) 64K RAM 1 disk drive Z80, 8088 Price is $60.00 plus $5.00 S&H in contenental US (CA must add 7% slaes tax.) From time to time I get 'used' copies of the Turbo Pascal 3.0 which I sell for about $30.00 plus $5.00 S&H. I hope this provides the information you need. Take care. ###  -- Ed Grey \*\ Sysop of The Grey Matter BBS & RCP/M 213-971-6260 P.O. Box #2186 \*\ Bitnet: ac959%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm Inglewood, CA 90305 \*\ Internet: ac959@cleveland.freenet.edu USA \**\ voice: 213-759-7406 \**\ Fidonet: 1:102/752 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 91 12:21:51 MEZ From: Martin Vogler Subject: cry for help Hi Guys, Some questions for you: 1.) I need help from a CPM-Guru on the C128 using the 1781 in CPM-Mode, installing a printer, etc. 2.) Can anyone tell me if there's a PD-List for C128-Software, which I can reach via Internet. (Simtel20 is Known :-)) 3.) Has the Royal-Oak Server a Internet connection? 4.) Is there another PD-Softwareserver for CPM on the Internet? (I always have troubles to reach Simtel20 because of a slow line here) 5.) There was a discussion about the program RDCBM21. I have lost the userid of the writer of this fine program. I would be glad to get the userid or better the source code. Regards to all who can help me. Martin Vogler PS: Many thanks to Keith for the very good service of the WSMR-SIMTEL20 server. ------------------------------ Date: 8 Apr 91 21:13:46 GMT From: olivea!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!smurf!altger!doitcr!jungkunz@apple.com (Helmut Jungkunz) Subject: IRV HOFF DEAD Message-ID: <1679@doitcr.doit.sub.org> We, the AMSTRAD CPC USER GROUP Munich, would like to state our participation in the sorrow on the death of IRV HOFF, according to John Deakins's mail. May he rest in peace. And may he be enabled to lead some software developers into sane fields again! A lot of work has inspired programmers all over the world. May he be never forgotten! Helmut Jungkunz Chairman ------------------------------ Date: 8 Apr 91 07:11:41 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!usc!skat.usc.edu!jlowrey@hplabs.hpl.hp.com (John 'Fritz' Lowrey) Subject: Needed: z80 computer on an XT/AT board... Message-ID: <31752@usc> Greetings, I have undertaken to write myself an Operating System, and in this quest, have decided that the z80 is the platform I wish to utilize. To do this I would like to find out if thereare any complete z80 computers on a card which can be used in my PC-AT. Complete would be defined as: :a z80 processor :on board memory (64k) or utilities to allow it to use the PC memory :on board BIOS, and listing thereof for my purposes :interface to the PC keyboard and monitor :necessary drivers/utilities to use this on the host machine. I have posted a similar message to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware, but would like to cover all my bases. Any helpful responce would be greatly welcomed, as would any constructive criticism (read as FLAME). Please Email me at the below address, if desired I will post a summary of responces. Thanks... Fritz (jlowrey@skat.usc.edu) -- J. "Fritz" Lowrey USC Computer Consulting Internet: jlowrey@usc.edu UUCP: !uunet!usc!jlowrey ------------------------------ Date: 8 Apr 91 20:48:10 GMT From: usc!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!austex!roadhog@apple.com (Lindsay Haisley) Subject: NovaDOS Message-ID: For the benefit of Ian Justman (ianj@ijpc.UUCP) and anyone else concerned, I am not at this time proceeding with further development of NovaDOS, wthe last release of which was release I. NovaDOS is a DOS for CP/M which is distributed in source code form. One of the reasons for distributing s source code is so that other interested people (such as Ian J.) mcan, if they wish, proceed to further develope it on their own. Anyone wishing to correspond personally with me on the subject will find my UUCP address below. Lindsay Haisley "Everything works if you let it!" --- Travis J. Redfish ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ uucp: austex!roadhog@emx.utexas.edu BBS: 512-259-1261 (Znode 77 - aka - Kaypro Club of Austin) ------------------------------ Date: 5 Apr 91 17:31:34 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!tellab5!laidbak!amiganet!austral!rrezaian@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Russell Rezaian) Subject: RE: Compilers Message-ID: On the compilers note: Anyone know if DR's PL/I for CP/M is still floating around in anyones vaults anywhere? I doubt it is still in production, but there might be a warhouse somewhere... -- +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Russell Rezaian | rrezaian@austral.UUCP | | P.O. Box 479 | rrezaian@amiganet.chi.il.us | | Naperville, Il. 60566-0479 | "One is best punished for one's | | USA | Virtues." Nietzsche. | +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 5 Apr 91 17:09:39 GMT From: aunro!ersys!davem@g.ms.uky.edu (Dave McCrady) Subject: Re: Finding System Software. Message-ID: bie@solman.mlb.semi.harris.com (Ben Eaton) writes: > > Hello! > > I have come across a "ZORBA" portable computer, that is in good > working order but there is no systems disk to go with the unit. I > know the following things about this unit: > > If anyone out there knows where I can aquire a systems disk ( I am > willing to pay for it ) or knows how I could reconstruct a systems disk > I would like to here from you. > I used to have one of these things and can supply the operating system. Lay a mailing address on me . . . Dave McCrady | ersys!davem@nro.cs.athabascau.ca +1 403-454-4054 (voice) | Disclaimer? Who needs a disclaimer? +1 403-454-6093 (public USENET) | I >own< the joint. ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 91 16:19:25 GMT From: pilchuck!dataio!fnx!del@uunet.uu.net (Dag Erik Lindberg) Subject: Re: Irv Hoff Message-ID: <943@fnx.UUCP> In article <9104060410.AA08436@cwns2.INS.CWRU.Edu> ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes: > >I am unhappy to relay the following message, which I download ..... > >I'm sorry to report that Irv Hoff died peacefully at home >yesterday, after a long and gallant battle with cancer. His >wife, Arlene Hoff, called my wife in Seattle to give the news, Strange. I saw almost this identical post *months* ago. Now I wonder if this is to be another 'urban legend'? -- del AKA Erik Lindberg uunet!pilchuck!fnx!del Who is John Galt? ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 91 14:14:50 GMT From: att!cbnews!ewm@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (edward.w.mcfarland) Subject: Software Sources? Message-ID: <1991Apr9.141450.25463@cbnews.att.com> I'm looking for sources of CPM software to run on an inherited CPM machine. I just found this newsgroup so if I can be directed to archives please post or write me with the e-address. Thanks, Ed McFarland ewm@mvuzr.att.com ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #72 ************************************ 10-Apr-91 01:50:18-MDT,6366;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 10-Apr-91 01:44:07 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 10 Apr 91 01:44:07 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #73 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910410014407.V91N73@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 10 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 73 Today's Topics: Epson Geneva Laptop FREE CP/M COMPUTERS Turbo Pascal Toolkit Wyse terminals ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Apr 91 17:51:08 -0400 From: EUDOH%sctnve.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Subject: Epson Geneva Laptop Message-ID: <5B040911310A0247-SCTNVE*EUDOH@sctnve> Could you tell me more about the Epson Geneva Laptop and the current going price for one of those things..... Didn't know something like that even existed..... thanks...... ........................................................................ : << Eudoh@sctnve.bitnet >> ============================ : : /|\ \\ Cyber Lab Consultant // : : // Etop Udoh \\ \\ & // : : ------ A2 ------ \\ Computer Operator // : : //!\\ \\\\\\\\ ==================== : : // \\ !! Computer Operations : : //!!!!!\\ //////// Southern College of Technology : : // \\ !! Marietta, Georgia 30060 : : // \\ \\\\\\\\ : :......................................................................: ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 91 21:11:33 GMT From: JOSBORNE@desire.wright.edu (Jay Osborne) Subject: FREE CP/M COMPUTERS Message-ID: <1991Apr9.161133.3155@desire.wright.edu> FREE - FREE - FREE - FREE - FREE - FREE - FREE - FREE - FREE - FREE - FREE Free to good home. Three, count 'em, three CP/M, S100 buss computers. Each computer has 64k of useable memory. Two of the machines have extra memory boards installed. The following features apply to ALL three machines. 1) COMPUTIME CPU, Floppy controller and IO boards 2) Linear power supplies 3) Twin, double sided, double density, 8 inch floppies (990k) 4) Large card cage 5) 64k internal printer buffer ( CENTRONICS ) 6) Multifunction Board -- (serial, clock, calendar) 7) Manuals and schematics of custom boards 8) Working condition. (At last check) 9) Designed for ADM 3, 3a, 3+, and 5 terminals One system has also twin, double sided, double density, 5.25 inch floppies. Sorry, but we cannot provide terminals for these systems. Whether your want a pre-PC for your desktop, or for your antique shop, this is a deal you can't pass up. Boaters... With little modification, you can be the owner of the latest thing: an electronic anchor. Interested parties note: You must provide shipping! That is all we ask. We want no money and don't want to scrap working machines. If you are interested, call Steve Hayden at (513) 873-2598 at Wright State University or reply to my account with EMAIL. I will see to it that he gets your message. Jay Osborne Wright State Univ. Electronic Shop JOSBORNE@desire.wright.edu ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 91 13:14:40 GMT From: aurs01!luce@uunet.uu.net (J. Luce) Subject: Turbo Pascal Toolkit Message-ID: <59714@aurs01.UUCP> In my quest to bring up PICS, I recently asked for a used copy of Turbo Pascal for CP/M. For those of you who have responded, thanks, I will be in touch with you. The documentation mentions a *requirement* for the TP Toolbox also. Why? And does anyone have *that* for sale, cheap... thanks... ------------------------------------------------------------------- John Luce | Life is the leading cause of death Alcatel Network Systems | ----------------------------------------- Raleigh, NC | Standard Disclaimer Applies 919-850-6787 | Mail? Here? Try aurs01!aurw46!luce@mcnc.org | or ...!mcnc!aurgate!luce -------------------------------- or John.Luce@f130.n151.z1.fidonet.org ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 01:23:09 GMT From: mintaka!think.com!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!ephillip%magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Earl W Phillips) Subject: Wyse terminals Message-ID: Does anyone know anything about Wyse terminals, and how they interact w/xerox eauipment? Specifically, are they dumb terminals, or do they have the cpu's in the box like other xerox equipment? I have a xerox 820-II dual 8" floppy drive that I'd like to get going. Can I do it w/one of these terminals? Also, if anyone needs one, I have just obtained 6 of these terminals w/keyboards. Ok, now on to #2: Does anyone know anything about TRS-80 Model 12 computers? This has a screen on the left side, and a single 8" floppy drive on the right, all in the same box. I understand that this was a business machine, supposedly quite expensive in its time. Does it run TRS-DOS? Where can I get a boot disk/software for it? Would Simtel20 have anything for it? I also have 2 12-meg external harddrives for it, BTW. Any info will be appreciated! ***************************************************************** * | ====@==== ///////// * * ephillip@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu| ``________// * * | `------' * * -JR- | Space;........the final * * | frontier............... * ***************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #73 ************************************ 11-Apr-91 16:41:46-MDT,9835;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 16:15:14 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #74 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910411161515.V91N74@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 11 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 74 Today's Topics: FREE CP/M COMPUTER UPDATE Irv hoff has died.... Re: Compilers Re: Finding System Software. Re: FREE CP/M COMPUTERS Re: IRV HOFF DEAD Re: Turbo Pascal Toolkit ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 10 Apr 91 18:32:59 GMT From: uoft02.utoledo.edu!desire.wright.edu!josborne@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (jay   Jay Osborne) Subject: FREE CP/M COMPUTER UPDATE Message-ID: <1991Apr10.133259.3179@desire.wright.edu> [*********************************************] [ ] [ FREE COMPUTER UPDATE ] [ ] [*********************************************] Thanks to all the people who responded to my post on the free CP/M computers, but we have received many more requests than we have machines. I have sent all the replies to the owner of the computers and the lucky (?) parties will hear from him. I cannot reply personally to everyone who sends a message anymore due to the number of requests. If there are any more machines to be scrapped, I will post again to the USENET. Thanks Again. Jay Osborne Wright State University ------------------------------ Date: 8 Apr 91 12:07:00 GMT From: rochester!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte!f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Tom.Rieger@louie.udel.edu (Tom Rieger) Subject: Irv hoff has died.... Message-ID: <423.28007067@rochgte.fidonet.org> Originally from Ed Grey on the FidoNet CPMTech echo... I am unhappy to relay the following message, which I download from the Drexel Hill RCP/M. Irv Hoff was one of a select circle of CP/M gurus. He authored much of the software that we CP/Mers use on a regular basis. Even though he has most recently been involved in IBM, he will be missed by the CP/M community. ********************* #: 8904 S9/ Potpourri 04-Apr-91 15:10:45 Sb: Irv Hoff has passed Fm: Sysop John Deakin 76702,310 To: All I'm sorry to report that Irv Hoff died peacefully at home yesterday, after a long and gallant battle with cancer. His wife, Arlene Hoff, called my wife in Seattle to give the news, but left no other information. I am attempting to call her, but I doubt seriously that I will be able to get through. I'm sure cards and/or flowers would be appreciated. Arlene Hoff 12130 Foothill Lane Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 I will advise if I hear anything further. TR@f242.n260.z1.fidonet.org -- Tom Rieger - via FidoNet node 1:260/230 UUCP: {smart-host}!ur-valhalla!rochgte!242!Tom.Rieger INTERNET: Tom.Rieger@f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 09:17:18 GMT From: bu.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!fmgst@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) Subject: Re: Compilers Message-ID: <113562@unix.cis.pitt.edu> In article rrezaian@austral.UUCP (Russell Rezaian) writes: >On the compilers note: > Anyone know if DR's PL/I for CP/M is still floating around in >anyones vaults anywhere? I doubt it is still in production, but there >might be a warhouse somewhere... Greetings. I was digging around on Simtel (hey! it actually logged me in! ;-) and I found something that you may like to hear about: In directory PD2: are 2 interesting files. One is a "PL/M-80 COMPILER (SOURCES)" it's around 150K (@ 100 bytes/sec it's going to take a while to download ;-) The other is a "READ/WRITE CP/M DISKS ON A VAX-780" :-) >-- >+-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ >| Russell Rezaian | rrezaian@austral.UUCP | >| P.O. Box 479 | rrezaian@amiganet.chi.il.us | >| Naperville, Il. 60566-0479 | "One is best punished for one's | >| USA | Virtues." Nietzsche. | >+-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ Take care. P.S. Anyone have a summary of the debate on how to change 8" drives to 5 1/4"? I want something more "compact" - for the time being, anyone have cheap SSDD 8" floppies? (preferably I could just pay shipping :-) Also, is an 851 (DSDD 8"drive) compatible with a 801? Someone is trying to sell me a 851 even though I advertised for an 801. I want to plug this into my Sol-20 - but I want to know if it will work. (by the way, the controller is SSDD one) -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "The Force will be with you, always." It _is_ with me and has been for 11 years Filip Gieszczykiewicz "... a Jedi does it with a mind trick... " ;-) FMGST@PITTVMS or fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu "My ideas. ALL MINE!!" ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 12:46:59 GMT From: pyrdc!pyrnj!pyrite!bill@uunet.uu.net (Bill Pechter) Subject: Re: Finding System Software. Message-ID: <496@pyrite.nj.pyramid.com> In article ersys!davem@nro.cs.athabascau.ca (Dave McCrady) writes: >bie@solman.mlb.semi.harris.com (Ben Eaton) writes: > >> I have come across a "ZORBA" portable computer, that is in good >> working order but there is no systems disk to go with the unit. I >> know the following things about this unit: >> > I used to have one of these things and can supply the operating >system. > > Lay a mailing address on me . . . > I also have one (dead). Anyone know of a good parts source? Bill -- Bill Pechter | "The postmaster always pings twice." Pyramid Technology | bill@pyrite.nj.pyramid.com 10 Woodbridge Center Drive | rutgers!pyrnj!pyrite!bill Woodbridge, NJ 07095 (908)602-6308 | pyramid!pyrnj!pyrite!bill ------------------------------ Date: 11 Apr 91 19:18:15 GMT From: crash!simpact!jeh@nosc.mil Subject: Re: FREE CP/M COMPUTERS Message-ID: <1991Apr11.121815.2266@dcs.simpact.com> In article <1991Apr9.161133.3155@desire.wright.edu>, josborne@desire.wright.edu (jay   Jay Osborne) writes: > Free to good home. Three, count 'em, three CP/M, S100 buss computers. > [...] Boaters: With little modification, you can > be the owner of the latest thing: an electronic anchor. I object to this posting as being misleading. A typical card cage is not angular enough to make a good anchor. Anchors need to dig into the bottom. :-) --- Jamie Hanrahan (x1116), Simpact Associates, San Diego CA Internet: jeh@dcs.simpact.com, or if that fails, jeh@crash.cts.com Uucp: ...{crash,scubed,decwrl}!simpact!jeh ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 18:43:09 GMT From: astroatc!niemi@speedy.wisc.edu (Bob Niemi) Subject: Re: IRV HOFF DEAD Message-ID: <3771@astroatc.UUCP> In article <1679@doitcr.doit.sub.org> jungkunz@doitcr.doit.sub.org (Helmut Jungkunz) writes: >We, the AMSTRAD CPC USER GROUP Munich, would like to state our participation >in the sorrow on the death of IRV HOFF, according to John Deakins's mail. >May he rest in peace. And may he be enabled to lead some software developers >into sane fields again! A lot of work has inspired programmers all over the >world. May he be never forgotten! > >Helmut Jungkunz >Chairman Prior to the advent of personal computing, Irv Hoff was active in amateur radio RTTY, and made as many contributions to furtherance of that art as he made to PC software. I am not particularly well read in either field, but I recall seeing Irv's name often; I suspect a list of his accomplishments would be too long to post. I personally benefited from his disk utility (I think it was DU), for the Osborne 1. I had the pleasure of but one RTTY QSO with Irv in the mid-to-late 60's. His spirit and energy will be hard to replace. Cross posted to amateur radio news group. Bob Niemi, W9FNJ, Astronautics, Madison, WI ..uwvax!astroatc!niemi ------------------------------ Date: 11 Apr 91 17:07:46 GMT From: pyrnj!pyrite!bill@rutgers.edu (Bill Pechter) Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal Toolkit Message-ID: <497@pyrite.nj.pyramid.com> In article <59714@aurs01.UUCP> luce@aurw46.UUCP (J. Luce) writes: >In my quest to bring up PICS, I recently asked for a used copy of Turbo >Pascal for CP/M. > >And does anyone have *that* for sale, cheap... thanks... The mail bounced. So it's now post time! I think I may have a copy of the toolkits. Let me know if this mail gets to you. Bill -- Bill Pechter | "The postmaster always pings twice." Pyramid Technology | bill@pyrite.nj.pyramid.com 10 Woodbridge Center Drive | rutgers!pyrnj!pyrite!bill Woodbridge, NJ 07095 (908)602-6308 | pyramid!pyrnj!pyrite!bill -- Bill Pechter | "The postmaster always pings twice." Pyramid Technology | bill@pyrite.nj.pyramid.com 10 Woodbridge Center Drive | rutgers!pyrnj!pyrite!bill Woodbridge, NJ 07095 (908)602-6308 | pyramid!pyrnj!pyrite!bill ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #74 ************************************ 13-Apr-91 11:21:35-MDT,11351;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 13 Apr 91 11:15:06 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #75 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910413111507.V91N75@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 13 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 75 Today's Topics: adding 3.5 inch drives Essentials FREE CP/M COMPUTER UPDATE Re: IRV HOFF DEAD Re: Looking for... Turbo Toolkit ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Apr 91 11:54 CST From: LANCE TAGLIAPIETRA Subject: adding 3.5 inch drives Message-ID: <8EF142A6C33F0018E6@ucs.uwplatt.edu> [NOTE: The following was originally posted on the BitNet list COCO@PUCC - Tandy Color Computer discussion. Given the recent discussion on floppy disk systems, this might be usefull to others on this discussion -- Lance] Adding 3.5 inch Drives These drive, as sold by most vendors, use 80 tracks, double-sided, and store 720 Kbytes of data. They are electrically the same as a 5 1/4 inch floppy drives and can easily be added using the 80 track drives that have been included with OS9 Level II. Also, several companies are selling adapter kits to allow you to install these in a 5 1/4 inch drive enclosure. This is the best way to go, but -- like me, many users will prefer to install them as an addition to their current system instead of a replacement. DRIVERS ------- As I said above, any of the drivers that are included with Level II can be used as long as the 80 track descriptors are included in your bootfile for the new disk drive. Microware has thougtfully provided descriptors for drives /dd, /d0, /d1, and /d2 in 80 track double-sided format. All you need to do here is make a new bootfile with the proper descriptors installed. HARDWARE -------- The 3.5 inch drives use a different cable connector than the 5 1/4 inch units. These are a 34 pin dual-header type connector with the same pin-out as the 34 pin edge card type. HOWEVER, these drives are also capable of receiving their DC power through the ribbon cable, which is how Tandy powers them in their new computer line. There is also a 4 pin power connector that my be used instead. But, DO NOT provide power using the 4 pin power plug without removing some of the pins from the 34 pin header type ribbon connector. If you do, you will be grounding the power supply through the disk controller card which will result in some major damage to the power supply, the controller card, or both. If you use the 4 pin power connector, you must pull all the ODD number pins from the connector, i.e., pins 1,3,5,7....etc. None of these lines are used for any disk control signals so don7t worry about that. Addendum: Not all 3.5 inch drive manufacturers provide power to the 34 pin connector. On those drives that don't, there is no need to remove any pins. However, if you are not sure, remove them anyway to protect your power supply in case you are wrong. The 4 pin power connector is wired in the same was as the older drive connectors, with 12VDC on one end pin, 2 middle pins for ground, and 5VDC on the other outer pin. You should ake sure which outer pin is for 12V and which is for 5V before providing power to them or damage will result. My drive was marked for the proper pins, but some may not be. INSTALLATION ------------ Being a practical minded (i.e. CHEAP) person, I installed my drive in a small experimentors box, and tapped the power and the 34 pin connector off my current dual disk drive package. Unless your current drives over-tax the unit's power supply, this should be safe as they use so little power themselves. So far, I have not noticed any power problems nor any increase in the heat output of the power supplies voltage regulators. I haven't yet measured the current draw, but I expect it to be very small. The 34 pin ribbon cable connector was easy to find at the local Radio Shack store, but the 4 pin power connector was not. So, I took another header connector and cut it down to only 4 pins and used that for now. Later, I suppose I'll get the "proper" one, but it's been working fine. You should buy a new 34 pins ribbon cable and three 34 pin edge card connectors that are designed to clamp on the cable. Measure at what points you need to add the one or two connectors for your current drives, and then add whatever lenght is required to extend the cable to the location of the 3.5 inch drive. Then, simply clamp the connector on. I installed the drive on my system as drive /DD and am surprised that is it noticably faster than my older drives. I then set the step rate to 6 ms using DMODE, saved the changed descriptor back to disk, and COBBLER'd a new boot. At this step rate, all they do is "buzz" a little when accessing. Eventually, I'll get another and have 1.4 meg of storage in these two tiny units. The disks themselves are much easier to use, you need not be as careful with them as floppies, and the are just neater! I feel like I just discovered disk drives for the first time again. Hope this helps some. /\/\ark Usenet ....!uflorida!ki4pv!macs!stetson!rewop!sysop UUCP direct (904) 736-1849 rewop!sysop Internet griffith@stetson.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 91 15:41:11 GMT From: agate!monsoon.Berkeley.EDU!calvinc@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Calvin Cheng) Subject: Essentials Message-ID: <1991Apr12.154111.24884@agate.berkeley.edu> The last time I've handled CP/M was many years back on the Apple II so I'm kinda rusty and outdated about current developments. Now that I have this beast called an Apple /// with a Z80 card, I'm thinking of getting it something decent to run. I was looking at wsmr-simtel20.army.mil which has a huge collection of CP/M stuff but which is extremely slow (any alternatives closer to the Bay Area and fast?) Well I'm interested in the following: 1) A terminal program that provides for VT100 emulation. 2) What is ZCPR and what does it really provide? I vaguely remember it as a kind CCP replacement with extensive abilities but was kinda bloated for my needs then. How about an improved CCP? I like one of those that don't require you to restart from a system disk (I mean warm boot). 3) A decent screen-oriented text editor. The problem with the Apple /// is that it is next to impossible to find support for it. It is therefore important that the programs are fairly machine independent (not even the Apple II ones will help). Preferably, if necessary, there's a simple means for me to hack up some connection with standard Apple /// SOS device drivers. My current setup has the Apple /// directly connected to the Mac on a serial port. So presumably I download stuff using the Mac, how do I get it to Apple /// CP/M because I dont even have a single program that can do binary file transfers on the ///. I also notice a lot of .?Z? files and .LBR files. Where do I get the files to extract these? Thanx Calvin Cheng << The Best is Yet to Be! >> ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 91 02:48:17 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!wuarchive!rex!uflorida!shark!xuel@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (xue leng) Subject: FREE CP/M COMPUTER UPDATE Message-ID: <7as0Z1w163w@shark.cs.fau.edu> postmaster mahesh sysop mahesh ken bruce all-sysops mahesh ken bruce system root system mahesh ken bruce users +/waffle/admin/user_list ------------------------------ Date: 11 Apr 91 19:08:30 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: IRV HOFF DEAD Message-ID: niemi@astroatc.UUCP (Bob Niemi) writes: > In article <1679@doitcr.doit.sub.org> jungkunz@doitcr.doit.sub.org (Helmut Ju > >We, the AMSTRAD CPC USER GROUP Munich, would like to state our participation > >in the sorrow on the death of IRV HOFF, according to John Deakins's mail. > >May he rest in peace. And may he be enabled to lead some software developers > >into sane fields again! A lot of work has inspired programmers all over the > >world. May he be never forgotten! > > > >Helmut Jungkunz > >Chairman Aw, gee, how long ago was that? One of our local servers barfed and I didn't get news for a few days. That really IS sad. > Prior to the advent of personal computing, Irv Hoff was active in amateur > radio RTTY, and made as many contributions to furtherance of that art as > he made to PC software. I am not particularly well read in either field, > but I recall seeing Irv's name often; I suspect a list of his accomplishments > would be too long to post. I personally benefited from his disk utility > (I think it was DU), for the Osborne 1. DU, I believe, was a contribution by Ward Christensen. > I had the pleasure of but one RTTY QSO with Irv in the mid-to-late 60's. > His spirit and energy will be hard to replace. I've only talked with him on the phone. And yes, his spirit and know-how will be very hard, if not impossible, to replace. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 91 14:27:39 GMT From: agate!bionet!ucselx!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!lavaca.uh.edu!menudo.uh.edu!lobster!urchin!f601.n106.z1.fidonet.org!MARC.NEWMAN@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (MARC NEWMAN) Subject: Re: Looking for... Message-ID: <10993.2804815A@urchin.fidonet.org> >Anyone know where I can get PICS bbs software? Last I was aware of was >PICS16. >Along this same line, anyone have a used copy of Turbo Pascal for CP/M >for sale (along with the manual). Preferably on Kaypro 5.25 format, but >I would love it on 8" SSDD also. Cheap, btw... since I am only going to >use it for the PICS stuff, I really don't want to pay full freight via >Jay Sage (although the price is reasonable through him, it is too high >for a one-timer ). >Thanks, y'all. Try Pic of the Mid Town, here in Houston, for PICS. Marc ------------------------------ Date: 11 Apr 91 19:14:40 GMT From: aurs01!luce@uunet.uu.net (J. Luce) Subject: Turbo Toolkit Message-ID: <59720@aurs01.UUCP> OK, I need the Turbo Toolkit for the compilation of PICS, also... Anyone got a copy they'd like to sell cheap (on a Kaypro or Osborne or 8" format) ? Or one I can borrow to compile this thing? Thanks... ------------------------------------------------------------------- John Luce | Life is the leading cause of death Alcatel Network Systems | ----------------------------------------- Raleigh, NC | Standard Disclaimer Applies 919-850-6787 | Mail? Here? Try aurs01!aurw46!luce@mcnc.org | or ...!mcnc!aurgate!luce -------------------------------- or John.Luce@f130.n151.z1.fidonet.org ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #75 ************************************ 14-Apr-91 23:32:25-MDT,7586;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 14-Apr-91 23:23:22 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 14 Apr 91 23:23:21 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #76 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910414232322.V91N76@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 14 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 76 Today's Topics: Free Computer PL/1 for CP/M Re: Essentials Re: IRV HOFF DEAD Re: STD Bus ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Apr 91 11:30:02 -0400 From: EUDOH@sctnve.BITNET Subject: Free Computer Message-ID: <5B040E0B1C1201A0-SCTNVE*EUDOH@sctnve> hi, So how many of the free computers are left if any, and what kind of price are we talking about in terms of shipping and handling..... I'm writing from Georgia.... .................................................................. : << Eudoh@sctnve.bitnet >> ============================ : : \\ Cyber Lab Consultant // : : Etop Udoh ->> A2 <<- \\ & // : : \\ Computer Operator // : : //!\\ \\\\\\\\ ==================== : : // \\ !! Computer & Network Support : : //!!!!!\\ //////// Southern College of Technology : : // \\ !! Marietta, Georgia 30060 : : // \\ \\\\\\\\ : :................................................................: ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 91 11:36:41 -0400 From: EUDOH@sctnve.BITNET Subject: PL/1 for CP/M Message-ID: <5B040E0B1F2E0278-SCTNVE*EUDOH@sctnve> hi, I believe I have a PL/1 compiler for CP/M , or rather I should say remember acquiring one a few years back, along with a few other nifty disk utility programs and maybe other language compilers. If you're interested I could look and make sure that I have it.... .................................................................. : << Eudoh@sctnve.bitnet >> ============================ : : \\ Cyber Lab Consultant // : : Etop Udoh ->> A2 <<- \\ & // : : \\ Computer Operator // : : //!\\ \\\\\\\\ ==================== : : // \\ !! Computer & Network Support : : //!!!!!\\ //////// Southern College of Technology : : // \\ !! Marietta, Georgia 30060 : : // \\ \\\\\\\\ : :................................................................: ------------------------------ Date: 13 Apr 91 16:51:54 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Essentials Message-ID: <81Pc11w164w@ijpc.UUCP> calvinc@monsoon.Berkeley.EDU (Calvin Cheng) writes: > Well I'm interested in the following: > > 1) A terminal program that provides for VT100 emulation. QTERM42G.LBR will be the file you're looking for. It provides decent VT100 emulation. If you're running CP/M on an Apple II series with the ORIGINAL SoftCard, you'll find a driver that I wrote myself for that system. > 3) A decent screen-oriented text editor. Try ZDE16.LBR. > The problem with the Apple /// is that it is next to impossible to find > support for it. It is therefore important that the programs are fairly > machine independent (not even the Apple II ones will help). Preferably, if > necessary, there's a simple means for me to hack up some connection with > standard Apple /// SOS device drivers. If I only had the address for it, Sun Remarketing in Utah is an excellent place to start as they specialized in the "orphaned" Apple systems. > I also notice a lot of .?Z? files and .LBR files. Where do I get the > files to extract these? *.?Z? are "crunched" files. You use either UNCRUNCH or UNCRLZH (whichever will work; if at all possible, go with UNCRLZH because it handles *.?Q? ("squeezed") and *.?Y? (LZH-compressed files) .LBR files are analogous to *.ZIP, *.LZH, et al in the IBM world, and Binary II files in the Apple II world. For those, you would use NULU, but I prefer LT29.COM because it not only types files inside of a library, it also decompresses and extracts files. You don't have to worry about cluttering your drive with secondary compressed files like you would if you were using NULU which handles *.?Q? files only. > Thanx > Calvin Cheng Anytime ------------------------------ Date: 14 Apr 91 00:55:32 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!mips!cs.uoregon.edu!ogicse!qiclab!omen!caf@ucsd.edu (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) Subject: Re: IRV HOFF DEAD Message-ID: <78@omen.UUCP> Sad to read that W6FFC is now a Silent Key. I knew Irv from the late 70's, when he pioneered integration of PCs (Heathkit H-89, etc.) with Ham RTTY. One of his inventions as I recall was an extended RTTY code, with LTRS-NULL shifting to lower case. Irv was a leader in the RCPM movement that paved the way for today's BBS community. He developed IMP (Irv's Modem Program) which was for many years the culmination of assembly language comms programs for CP/M. Irv worked tirelessly to help users bring up comms programs on their CP/M machines, no two of which supported the same comms API. I still remember Irv sending HEX program dumps over 20 Meter RTTY to fellow hams back in the 70's. 73... Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX ...!tektronix!reed!omen!caf Author of YMODEM, ZMODEM, Professional-YAM, ZCOMM, and DSZ Omen Technology Inc "The High Reliability Software" 17505-V NW Sauvie IS RD Portland OR 97231 503-621-3406 TeleGodzilla:621-3746 FAX:621-3735 CIS:70007,2304 Genie:CAF -- "Many such [diet] programs proffer treatment as though it were established as effective and safe. Nothing in the results published by research programs authorizes anyone to make such claims." -William Bennett, Harvard Medical School Health Letter ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 91 19:37:11 GMT From: usc!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hp-col!hpldola!hp-lsd!bsb@apple.com (Brett Baumberger) Subject: Re: STD Bus Message-ID: <8190011@hp-lsd.COS.HP.COM> STD bus was designed around Intel 8085 bus signals. That gives you the following signals: A0-A15 for 64k of memory; D0-D7 8 bit data bus IO/M* select between memory or I/O a couple of interrupt lines reset clock Notice I show a de-multiplexed Address/Data bus. De-multiplexing is performed on the processor card. This enabled Motorola-based processors to implement STD as well. I forgot to mention R/W in the signals above. I once designed and implemented a system based around STD for an unnotable government subcontractor. It worked, it was cheap. It was easy to replace parts if needed. It was modular, which is one of STD's design goals. Just take a cpu card, add enough memory cards for your app, add I/O. Complete system.....Just add firmware. Brett Baumberger ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #76 ************************************ 18-Apr-91 16:27:45-MDT,8527;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 18 Apr 91 16:15:20 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #77 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910418161520.V91N77@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 18 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 77 Today's Topics: Help on overlays etc Need 3.5" 40-pin pinout Re: Essentials (2 msgs) Re: Looking for... RE: Zilog autobaud detect / Zilog chip sources Televideo 925 Wyse terminals ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 18 Apr 91 13:58:45 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!metro!ipso!dave@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Dave Horsfall) Subject: Help on overlays etc Message-ID: <1991Apr18.135845.4914@ips.oz.au> Hello all. Can someone give me a brief guide to writing overlays and TSR-like programs for CP/M? None of the books I have mention the topic, and user groups died out long ago... The system is a reasonably standard CP/M 2.2 system (ZCPR-2 I think), running on a Z80 platform - the Australian "Microbee", if you've ever heard of it. Nice little box... I gather one has to fiddle the top-of-memory pointer after relocating oneself for the former, and trapping the keyboard-request jump for the latter, but there my knowledge runs out. What other things should I have to do? Since I'm stuck with twin floppies (no provision for a disk without EXTENSIVE modification), I'd like to use the 64Kb RAM disk that comes with the BIOS as a small (but fast) paging area of sorts. Thanks. -- Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU) VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC dave@ips.OZ.AU ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 91 02:51:23 GMT From: taco!eos.ncsu.edu!escott@lll-winken.llnl.gov (Erik Scott) Subject: Need 3.5" 40-pin pinout Message-ID: <1991Apr15.025123.17354@ncsu.edu> I just got an IBM disk drive from a low-end PS/2. It has a 40-pin edge connector and no power connector. As some of the traces on the edge connector look MIGHTY heavy, I guess it gets power from there. Are the lower 34 pins the conventional 5.25" assignments? What do the upper six pins carry? 39&37 are ground, and are tied to the same ground as 1,3,5..33 35&36 are tied together. The drive was made by Alps. Many Thanks, erik scott escott@eos.ncsu.edu (Bounce? Nah! Try scott@ecovsa.ncsu.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 91 16:11:41 EDT From: Mark Eichin Subject: Re: Essentials Message-ID: <9104162023.AA14084@xuucp.ch.apollo.hp.com> >>>something decent to run. I was looking at wsmr-simtel20.army.mil which has I don't know if this has been announced anywhere, but WUSTL is now running a mirror of the cpm archives too! Anonymous ftp to wuarchive.wustl.edu, cd mirrors/cpm, and enjoy... there's also sigm and cpmug (and most of the rest...) Be sure to read the README file at the top level - they've got some neat hacks for automatically tar'ing up entire directories, and compression/decompression by name. _Mark_ ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 91 02:55:07 GMT From: waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!cc-server4.massey.ac.nz!P.B.Halverson@decwrl.dec.com (P.B. Halverson) Subject: Re: Essentials Message-ID: <1991Apr18.025507.22244@massey.ac.nz> 18 April 1991 Sun Remarketing is in Logan, Utah 84321. Logan is small enough that this simple address should find its mark. Cheers, P.B. Halverson Massey University New Zealand ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 91 13:28:31 GMT From: aurs01!luce@uunet.uu.net (J. Luce) Subject: Re: Looking for... Message-ID: <59731@aurs01.UUCP> In article <10993.2804815A@urchin.fidonet.org> MARC.NEWMAN@f601.n106.z1.fidonet.org (MARC NEWMAN) writes: ->Thanks, y'all. - -Try Pic of the Mid Town, here in Houston, for PICS. - -Marc How about a phone number? :) ------------------------------------------------------------------- John Luce | Life is the leading cause of death Alcatel Network Systems | ----------------------------------------- Raleigh, NC | Standard Disclaimer Applies 919-850-6787 | Mail? Here? Try aurs01!aurw46!luce@mcnc.org | or ...!mcnc!aurgate!luce -------------------------------- or John.Luce@f130.n151.z1.fidonet.org ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 91 14:47:17 GMT From: vtserf!groupw.cns.vt.edu@uunet.uu.net (Roger Link) Subject: RE: Zilog autobaud detect / Zilog chip sources Message-ID: <1616@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> >- Looking for auto baud detection code (Z80, pascal, etc.) for for a > Zilog SCC (Z8530/Z8030) or SIO??? > >- Looking for a good source for Zilog chips. I need Z8530's (10Mhz), > and Z84C13 IPC's. I define good as a supplier that: > - Has the chips > - Can do COD or preferably VISA > - Doesn't mind 5/10/15 quantities (I want at least 5 of everything!!) > >The Z84x1x IPC are new "Intelligent Peripheral Controllers". They >have a 10Mhz Z80, SIO, CTC, Watch Dog timer, PIO (on some models), and >clock generator, wait state generator, and auto power on reset (some >models). All of this in a 84-pin PLCC or 100 pin quad flat pack!!! > >From my point of view, these chips give the 8051/6811/etc. >microcontrollers a run for their money!! I talked to my local Zilog rep. Of the Zilog distributors he gave me, I tried Newark and Lex (800-833-3557). Newark didn't have the Z84C13 IPC chips, and would require a large order for them to get them, plus a long delay. Newark can do VISA, and carries the "standard" Zilog chips (but so does Jameco/JDR, probably at a lower price!!). Lex has the chips in stock. I have placed a order. They can do COD, but no VISA. They do have a $250 minimum order. I paid about $18 for my Z84C1310VEC (I think that is the proper number) chips. They are being shipped from San Jose. There is also a 6Mhz version of this chip. As for Zilog SIO/SCC autobaud code, I'm still looking............. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Link BITNET : LINKR @ VTVM1 VA. Tech Physics INTERNET : LINKR@GROUPW.CNS.VT.EDU Blacksburg VA. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 16 Apr 91 14:05:05 GMT From: aurs01!luce@uunet.uu.net (J. Luce) Subject: Televideo 925 Message-ID: <59735@aurs01.UUCP> I just picked up a Televideo 925 terminal at a local Hamfest and it of course came with no docs. On the back of this are 2 dipswitch blocks. Could someone tell me what they are used for and what each switch does? Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------- John Luce | Life is the leading cause of death Alcatel Network Systems | ----------------------------------------- Raleigh, NC | Standard Disclaimer Applies 919-850-6787 | Mail? Here? Try aurs01!aurw46!luce@mcnc.org | or ...!mcnc!aurgate!luce -------------------------------- or John.Luce@f130.n151.z1.fidonet.org ------------------------------ Date: 16 Apr 91 04:09:00 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte!f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG!David.Barnes@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (David Barnes) Subject: Wyse terminals Message-ID: <464.280B5DB5@rochgte.fidonet.org> I would be very interested in obtaining 1 or 2 of those Wyse terminals that you have... How much would you like to get??? Thanks much David Barnes (716) 544-7575 -- David Barnes - via FidoNet node 1:260/230 UUCP: {smart-host}!ur-valhalla!rochgte!242!David.Barnes INTERNET: David.Barnes@f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #77 ************************************ 21-Apr-91 16:27:29-MDT,10214;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 21 Apr 91 16:15:18 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #78 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910421161519.V91N78@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 21 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 78 Today's Topics: Amstrad PCW8256/PCW8512 serial port Help: Tandon Disk Drive & Xebek control Help: Tandon Disk Drive & Xebek controller Model II keyboards? Re: Free Computer Re: Help: Tandon Disk Drive & Xebek controller Re: Help on overlays etc Re: Televideo 925 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 19 Apr 91 02:13:54 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!bruce!trlluna!sandinista!pogo!guillaum@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (andrew guillaume) Subject: Amstrad PCW8256/PCW8512 serial port Message-ID: <1991Apr19.021354.9766@trl.oz.au> G'day all ! If this is not the right place to post this, don't flame me, just tell me where to post. I'm trying to help out my dad who has one of the above mentioned beasts (the PCW8516). This thing comes with an expansion "port" at the back, which is in fact just a connector edge of the internal pcb. Now he also has a Heathkit H89, running cp/m, and would like to have the two machines talking to each other. The expansion "port" of the PCW8512 has all the signals from the Z80 (address, data, control). I figured that all I would need is something like an 8251 or a Z80-SIO, plus the required TTL<->RS232 chips. Now before I start reinventing the wheel, I'd like to know from anybody who might be familiar with the Amstrad, whether they know if this is already available from Amstrad, whether this might exist in kit form, whether this problem has already been tackled and solved, and whether my assumptions as to it being a simple h/w job are correct. BTW, I am an EE, so soldering is no problem :-), although all the programming stuff might be a little bit more challenging :-) Email me, or post, and I will send any "me too" requests a summary. Thanks in advance for any help. Andrew Guillaume Internet : a.guillaume@trl.oz.au ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 91 20:12:28 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!comp.vuw.ac.nz!am.dsir.govt.nz!marcamd!mercury!kcbbs!kc@ucsd.edu (Richard Plinston) Subject: Help: Tandon Disk Drive & Xebek control Message-ID: <1991Apr21.201228.13063@kcbbs.gen.nz> >>> ICL Model 35 These machines only supported a small number of different hard discs, model 25/26 - 5Mbyte with 306 tracks 2 heads. model 35 - 10Mbyte with 306 tracks 4 heads. DSKINIT will format to either of these, it should ask which you have. Any drive with more than this in tracks or heads should work, but the extra will not be used, less tracks won't work. Perhaps the Xebec has failed. It's a SASI to ST506 convertor. ICL wants to see a SASI drive, actual drive is ST506. ------------------------------ Date: 19 Apr 91 07:05:36 GMT From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!yoyo.aarnet.edu.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!levels!etpkg@handies.ucar.edu Subject: Help: Tandon Disk Drive & Xebek controller Message-ID: <16222.280f1c59@levels.sait.edu.au> Help! I have an ICL model 35 computer running MP/M ver. 2.4f3. Recently the hard disk died ( it was a 10 meg Rodime model RO 200 ) and I got hold of second hand 5 meg Tandon model TM 501 to replace it. However it doesn't work. I suspect I need to change the jumper settings on the drive. So, If someone has details of the jumpers of the Tandon drive they would be much apreciated. The hard disk controller in the ICL is a Xebek Systems model 104526 (at least thats the only number written on it). The jumper settings for this would also be good. I can be contacted at paul@sal.sait.edu.au or you can post it to the newgroup. Thanks in advance, Paul Gray University of South Australia. ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 91 07:13:50 GMT From: wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!cwcst1@decwrl.dec.com (Carl W Coates) Subject: Model II keyboards? Message-ID: <118203@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. I might be mistaken but I think that I saw a few posts asking for keyboards. I just got a TRaSh-80 Model II and all I needed out of it was the power supply. The rest works. I have no need for the other boards, video, or the keyboard. If interested, e-mail. By the way, I paid $50 for the heap so I won't ask an arm and a leg. More like $5 + you pay shipping. :-) Take care. ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 91 14:43:07 GMT From: prism!gt0202b@gatech.edu (MORSE,JAMES ERNEST) Subject: Re: Free Computer Message-ID: <26881@hydra.gatech.EDU> In article <5B040E0B1C1201A0-SCTNVE*EUDOH@sctnve> EUDOH@sctnve.BITNET writes: >hi, > > So how many of the free computers are left if any, and what kind of >price are we talking about in terms of shipping and handling..... >I'm writing from Georgia.... I'm writing from Georgia also, how can I get in on this deal? Also, just what directory are the CP/M files on wsmr-simtel20 in? How could I get a listing of the subdirectories? Any info for this new user would be appreciated. Thanks, James Morse -- MORSE,JAMES ERNEST Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!gt0202b ARPA: gt0202b@prism.gatech.edu ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 04:23:29 GMT From: mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!cwcst1@decwrl.dec.com (Carol Coates) Subject: Re: Help: Tandon Disk Drive & Xebek controller Message-ID: <117978@unix.cis.pitt.edu> In article <16222.280f1c59@levels.sait.edu.au> etpkg@levels.sait.edu.au writes: >Help! I have an ICL model 35 computer running MP/M ver. 2.4f3. Recently >the hard disk died ( it was a 10 meg Rodime model RO 200 ) and I got ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >hold of second hand 5 meg Tandon model TM 501 to replace it. However it ^^^^^ >doesn't work. I suspect I need to change the jumper settings on the drive. >So, If someone has details of the jumpers of the Tandon drive they would be >much apreciated. The hard disk controller in the ICL is a Xebek Systems >model 104526 (at least thats the only number written on it). The jumper >settings for this would also be good. Greetings. I tried that with my Kaypro 10. I had a few 6 meg hard drives and I wanted to use them with my K10, which came with a 10 meg. The first problem was getting all the jumpers. The second and terminal problem was that my format program required a drive with 4 heads and 305 cylinders. Those are the specs for a 10MB unit, not a 6MB one - when I tried to format, it failed. And third, even if you convince the format program to format only 2 heads and 305 cyliners (5MB specs), how will you tell CP/M that? In my K10, CP/M can only access 8MB and the drive was split into A: and B: (C: for floppy). Well, I got it to format only A: but then ran a program that bombed because there was no drive B: (or something like that). SO: Get a new 10MB unit! For a new, expect to pay ~$70 and for a used ~$35 Take care. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 91 22:36:46 GMT From: prism!jm59@gatech.edu (MILLS,JOHN M.) Subject: Re: Help on overlays etc Message-ID: <26697@hydra.gatech.EDU> In article <1991Apr18.135845.4914@ips.oz.au> dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall) writes: >Hello all. Can someone give me a brief guide to writing overlays and I think the information you need is in DRI's CP/M 2.2 Modification Guide, but basically you have to do three things: (1) write your code so that it can install itself just under the [current] low-end of CP/M: since this is unknown until the TSR is invoked, it is easier to write for (say) a Z80 with some relative addressing than for an 8080/5 without such capability; (2) you must create a "thread" for whatever BDOS or BIOS calls you want to intercept, into a screening routine of your own -- probably you want to copy them all, and put a new set of pointers in their place which hits the corresponding targets in your TSR; and (3) you have to adjust the free-memory pointer so that the next TSR to be invoked doesn't clobber the earlier one(s). The Sybex book _Mastering CP/M_ includes utilities to (for example) divert printer output to a disk file. These are probably reasonable examples. I don't know if any compilers for CP/M give you enough control to do these things. Assembly language is probably required. WARNING>> This is all conjecture: I never actually wrote a CP/M TSR.<< Regards -jmm- -- MILLS,JOHN M. Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!jm59 Internet: jm59@prism.gatech.edu ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 91 21:01:50 GMT From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!pacbell.com!pacbell!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@handies.ucar.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Televideo 925 Message-ID: luce@aurs01.UUCP (J. Luce) writes: > I just picked up a Televideo 925 terminal at a local Hamfest and it of > course came with no docs. On the back of this are 2 dipswitch blocks. > Could someone tell me what they are used for and what each switch does? > > Thanks. John: If you open the terminal up, there will be a third set of dipswitches in the dead center of the terminal's logic board. I know where there's a manual, but it's just a matter of borrowing it because my sister has a 925 on her computer. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #78 ************************************ 23-Apr-91 13:21:12-MDT,8628;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 23-Apr-91 13:11:51 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 13:11:50 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #79 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910423131151.V91N79@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 23 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 79 Today's Topics: Epson PX-8/PF-10 help requested Re: Amstrad PCW8256/PCW8512 serial port Re: Help: Tandon Disk Drive & Xebek controller S-100 Memory board Info Needed Selling a Xerox 820-II Computer (no drives) TELEVIDEO 925 MANUAL ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Apr 91 22:55:07 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!comp.vuw.ac.nz!cc-server4.massey.ac.nz!P.B.Halverson@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (P.B. Halverson) Subject: Epson PX-8/PF-10 help requested Message-ID: <1991Apr21.225507.12597@massey.ac.nz> Are there any Epson PX-8 users in New Zealand or Australia? I am looking for a service center to send my PF-10 disk drive to for repairs. Unless somebody can tell me why, after months of non-use, the PX-8 stopped recognising the PF-10. Wouldn't you know.... Purchased in the U.S., useless for years. Finally I find a disk transfer utility (22DISK from Sydex - absolutely the best) and an editor for both DOS and CPM (VDE - well worth the $15 registration) making the little brick potentially useful. Only now I've no disk drive! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Philip Halverson Massey University New Zealand ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 91 21:54:13 GMT From: swrinde!mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!lobster!urchin!f601.n106.z1.fidonet.org!TESSA.HEBERT@ucsd.edu (TESSA HEBERT) Subject: Re: Amstrad PCW8256/PCW8512 serial port Message-ID: <11591.2810DB6E@urchin.fidonet.org> Hi, I don't know if I can help with your problem, but I was glad to see someone else has an Amstrad. I have an AMSTRAD PCW8256. I can't use it for bbs-ing because it requires an interface to hook it up to the modem, which I don't have. Harley Ristad, Amstrad Users Group, U.S.A., 12741 Matteson Avenue #3, Los Angeles, CA, 9066, voice phone: 213/397-7981, runs an Amstrad users support service, which is free. You can call him or write him. He was very helpful to me once. For the modem, he recommends a CPS8256 RS232C Serial Interface (from Sinotech). By the way, I am looking for an interface for the modem, so if you hear of anyone having one to sell, please let me know (or where I can get it). PS: Harley provides a newsletter & registration service to network with other Amstrad users. Send a $1.00 & SASE for information. He accepts donations, but does not charge for his help. He has a great start-of-the-day disk, which he calls "Bitch" (beginner's introduction to cp/m hacking disc) a fully documented disk for beginners or expert, who want to do more with their PCW. He asks for $2 plus a formatted disk (feel free to send him your goodies on that disk) or $7 without the disk. For Amstrad software (commercial) write or call New Date, 3651 Woodhead Drive, Northbrook, IL 60062 (708/546-9281) & ask them to send you a catalog. ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 91 23:25:04 GMT From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: Help: Tandon Disk Drive & Xebek controller Message-ID: <1991Apr21.232504.9012@simasd.uucp> etpkg@levels.sait.edu.au writes: >So, If someone has details of the jumpers of the Tandon drive they would be >much appreciated.... The jumpers and factory settings for the TM 50x drives are as below: Jumper Function Setting Usage W1 Track Fault O Install for excess track fault W2 Test O Install for factory test W3 Disable Limit O Install to disable soft limits W4 Spin Select O Install for spin select W5 Tracks S Install for standard version W6 Motor Type - Install for Type 1.8 motor RTW7 Read Terminator I Close only at end drive of daisy chain data. Closed for radial data. WTW8 Write Terminator I S4W9 Drive Select 4 O Install one of four plugs only S3W10 Drive Select 3 O Plug corresponds to drive addr S2W11 Drive Select 2 O S1W12 Drive Select 1 I 3PW13 Three Disk 503 Close for TM503 only U22 Terminator Pack I Install in end drive of daisy chain. NOTES: O Omit I Install S Close jumper for standard version only 503 Close jumper for TM503 only > [...] The hard disk controller in the ICL is a Xebek Systems >model 104526 (at least thats the only number written on it). The jumper >settings for this would also be good. > Sorry, I can't help you out on that. Perhaps someone else will. - don Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1991 06:42:33 PDT From: Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com Subject: S-100 Memory board Info Needed Message-ID: <"22-Apr-91 9:42:33 EDT".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com> I managed to pick up three S100 Memory cards for less than half the RAM populating them was worth. Unfortunately, I didn't get any documentation so I don't know what the jumpers are for, or how to configure them. I am hoping someone can give me a hand with these (like copies of documentation or the like :-) The boards are made by Macrotech International Corp. (Copyright on the board is 1983). The board is labled "MAX-HOST Rev 1.1". Over the top of this is a sticker that says "Z Series". This is right below a fancy socket which holds two chips in sort of a piggy-back fashion. The boards are populated with 3 rows of 18 4164 dynamic RAM chips (150 nS). Grumble, there are also 7 PAL's on the board. One last thing. There is a socket on the lower left of the board for a 74LS612. None of the bards have this chip. Does it need to be installed? Can anyone help me with these? ~ Mike (Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.Com) ------------------------------ Date: 22 Apr 91 04:08:34 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!ux.acs.umn.edu@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Steve Hughes) Subject: Selling a Xerox 820-II Computer (no drives) Message-ID: <3806@ux.acs.umn.edu> I'd be interested what the going price for a Xerox 820 CP/M micro might be. I've got the box, keyboard and a 1200 Novation Smart Cat modem to sell as a unit (I've been using it as a terminal). Anybody know what the market price for such a beast might be? Anybody interested? It is truly an 820-II, it is in good shape, and I have no drives for it. Like I said, I've been using the internal bios term program and the modem to talk to the mainframe, but I picked up a Mac finally, so it is of no use to me. The modem isn't great--it is not autodial, and only 1200 baud, but it works just fine if you still have fingers to dial a phone with :-) . Reply by e-mail please, to preserve bandwidth. Thanks! -Steve Steve Hughes hughes@ux.acs.umn.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 91 12:48:12 EDT From: "Craig Spirka" Subject: TELEVIDEO 925 MANUAL Message-ID: <9104221648.AA08007@alw.nih.gov> John, I have a Televideo 925 manual on my desk now. Would you like me to mail (U.S.) a copy? I also have the "cheat sheet" I created on how to set the dip switches for switches 1 & 2. -Craig Spirka ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #79 ************************************ 24-Apr-91 19:25:34-MDT,11243;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 24 Apr 91 19:15:10 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #80 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910424191511.V91N80@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 24 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 80 Today's Topics: AMSTRAD PCW Serial Interface CP/M software cpm FTP sites Looking for a C Compiler PX-8 problems (batteries?) Re: Finding System Software. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 24 Apr 91 01:35:54 GMT From: math.fu-berlin.de!fauern!ira.uka.de!smurf!altger!doitcr!jungkunz@uunet.uu.net (Helmut Jungkunz) Subject: AMSTRAD PCW Serial Interface Message-ID: <1680@doitcr.doit.sub.org> Hi, Yes! there is an interface available from AMSTRAD. Second, a friend of mone has found a way of freeing the second SIO-Channel on said RS 232 interface He also wrote a small program called 'BTERM' to support this second channel. Might come in pretty handy sometimes. Whoever is interested, send me a formatt ed disk (any format is okay, as long as you specify which one) and I'll get it on to you! Helmut Jungkunz, Schneider/Amstrad CPC User Group Munich, Zacherlstr. 14, W-8045 Ismaning, GERMANY, Tel 089/969374 By the way, check out ZMP15 for dialling your nights out and also, ANSI-TERM is supposed to be it for all AMSTRADs! Ciao, regards and cu (-: , -> Helmut Jungkunz <- ------------------------------ Date: 24 Apr 91 05:21:40 GMT From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!ei.ecn.purdue.edu!kurrasch@ucsd.edu (Peter G Kurrasch) Subject: CP/M software Message-ID: <1991Apr24.052140.21987@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> I am looking for CP/M software that I could use with my Xerox 820-II with two 8-inch floppies. At the top of the list is some type of file transfer program that will support X-modem and/or Kermit (if it's available) protocols. Other desirable items include compilers (Pascal and others) and other possibly useful programs. Does anyone have a suggestion or place to contact? Cheaper programs are preferred, but I realize that may not be possible. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you in advance, Peter Kurrasch email: kurrasch@ecn.purdue.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 24 Apr 91 18:43:56 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!samsung!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!gn.ecn.purdue.edu!rferguso@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Robert S. Ferguson) Subject: cpm FTP sites Message-ID: <1991Apr24.184356.10944@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> Here is a list of all the cp/m FTP sites that I could find. This list was requested by a couple of people in comp.sys.cbm. I cross-posted this to comp.os.cpm because I thought the people there would like to see this list also. If you have any corrections, additions, comments, or if you would like to see this list posted to other newsgroups, either e-mail me or post to comp.sys.cbm. This info was obtained from Archie. I will post this list every month starting next August, unless, somebody else already posts a list of FTP sites on a regular basis, and objects to my postings. :-) I probably won't have access to my account over the summer, so you won't hear from me after next week until then. I have recently acquired a Z80 based machine (MicroMate PMC-101) which runs CPM Plus 3.0 (Digital). I would like to acquire a C compiler for the machine (or even a cross compile for DOS). I have heard of a few compilers, namely BDS C and Aztec C. Can anyone direct me to where I can acquire a compiler? An address and phone number would be appreciated. I did obtain the SmallC compiler from the Simtel20 archives but was unable to extract it from the LBR file. I used DELBR11 in DOS and DELBR12 within CPM. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong here? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 22:51:57 PDT From: Will Rose Subject: PX-8 problems (batteries?) Message-ID: The usual reason for the PX-8/PF-10 dying, especially after a period of non-use, is the discharge/death of the *soldered-in* backup nicads. Both devices have large nicad (or in the PF-10, drycell) batteries, but also backup nicads of roughly AA size soldered to the motherboards. I've had my PX-8/10 around 6 years, and had to replace both the PX-8 120K ramdisk backup cell and the PF-10 backup cell about 2 years ago. That was with fairly heavy use of the PX-8, but less of the PF-10. I also replaced the PX-8 main battery pack, which in retrospect was probably unecessary; when the ramdisk backup battery failed it dragged the system voltage down to such an extent that nothing worked, and I thought the main battery had died - but a new battery showed the same problem. The PF-10 main battery pack and the PX-8 backup battery pack are still the originals. I dismantled the cases and soldered the cells in myself with no difficulty. (On second thoughts, the backup battery on the ramdisk may have had a plug; but the PF-10's went straight onto the board. Anyway, you can't buy nicads with the right plug, so you have to cut and resolder the old one). I find I use the PF-10 very little now because I upload most work from the PX-8 to a desktop for final editing on a full screen. I still keep all the programs on disk, however; I haven't yet reached the stage of a PX-8 directory on the PC! But the PX-8 has been incredibly useful in the time I've had it - really an amazing little beast. I'm sorry it never caught on. The only problem is that the ribbon cable to the LCD works loose every year or so, and has to be reseated in its connector just to the right of the screen. I got the batteries from Snyderscope in the US, around $25 each I seem to recall. Last year they had a sale on a lot of PX-8 stuff, including PF-10s and TF-20s, ramdisk units, and so on. Their address is: Snyderscope International 1594 Hilltop Drive El Cajon CA 92020-8227 Tel: (619) 442-2299 However, the batteries are pretty generic (Snyderscope have them made up locally, not by Epson). If you took them out and showed them to your friendly local nicad shop you might save some time and money. Change of subject: if you need a serial port for an Amstrad machine, try England where they are extremely common and shops (particularly in London) are willing to handle overseas orders. Get a copy of the Amstrad PCW or 8000 Plus magazines, and check the adverts. I can't find the address of PCW, but 8000 Plus subscriptions are at: 8000 Plus, The Old Barn, Somerton, Somerset, TA11 7PY. UK. Good luck - Will ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "It is difficult to be a | Will Rose ruler, and it is not easy | UUCP:{nosc ucsd hplabs!hp-sdd}!crash!pnet01!cwr to be a subject, either." | ARPA:crash!pnet01!cwr@nosc.mil Confucius. | INET:cwr@pnet01.cts.com UUCP: {nosc ucsd hplabs!hp-sdd}!crash!pnet01!cwr ARPA: crash!pnet01!cwr@nosc.mil INET: cwr@pnet01.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 24 Apr 91 21:02:01 GMT From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!liszt!schwartz@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (David Schwartz) Subject: Re: Finding System Software. Message-ID: <1991Apr24.210201.14145@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> Last week I bought an antique OSBORNE 1 computer. It seems to be in good working order but I have no system software. I'm also looking for applications software. No, I don't know what I'm going to do with it yet. Any OSBORNE owners out there who can help? ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #80 ************************************ 26-Apr-91 03:25:06-MDT,10977;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 26 Apr 91 03:15:13 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #81 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910426031514.V91N81@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 26 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 81 Today's Topics: 5.25" drives for 820-II? C Compiler for Z80 CP/M computer CP/M or Osborne users groups news Re: Finding System Software. Re: Selling a Xerox 820-II Computer (no drives) Turbo Pascal Toolbox ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 25 Apr 91 22:16:24 GMT From: vax5.cit.cornell.edu!bqsy1@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu (Andrew R. Orndorff, Cornell University) Subject: 5.25" drives for 820-II? Message-ID: <1991Apr25.181624.4273@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> Well, I've decided not to go the hard disk route quite yet because of lack of money. But, I'd like to know what one has to do to change from 8" drives to 5.25" drives on the Xerox 820-II? Could it be as simple as just rewiring the cables for the correct pinouts on the 5.25" drives? (In which case I have ready access to a case and power supply that I can move everything into). Or is it a lot more, ie. software changes so that the computer will correctly access the 5.25" drives? And finally, barring any of the above, does anyone have a pair of 5.25" drives for an 820-II that they might consider selling, cheaply? Thanks for your help all. -- Andrew Orndorff CIT, Research & Analysis Cornell University Internet: bqsy1@vax5.cit.cornell.edu Bitnet: bqsy1@crnlvax5 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 91 04:47:24 -0400 From: ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Subject: C Compiler for Z80 CP/M computer Message-ID: <9104250847.AA29210@cwns1.INS.CWRU.Edu> >Date: 24 Apr 91 14:31:06 GMT >Subject: Looking for a C Compiler >I have recently acquired a Z80 based machine (MicroMate PMC-101) which >runs CPM Plus 3.0 (Digital). I would like to acquire a C compiler for >the machine (or even a cross compile for DOS). I have heard of a few >compilers, namely BDS C and Aztec C. >Can anyone direct me to where I can acquire a compiler? An address and >phone number would be appreciated. I can sell you the MIX C Compiler for your Z80 based CP/M computer or IBM compatible. It is a full K & R implementation of the C language and source is transportable across the 2 OS. IBM version has an optional debugger available. Price for each is $20.00 plus $5.00 for S&H (UPS ground, in the continental US). Price for both compilers together, with one manual (it's the same for for versions), is $40.00 including S&H (in the US). Send an email address for detailed information. Take care. ###  -- Ed Grey \*\ Sysop of The Grey Matter BBS & RCP/M 213-971-6260 P.O. Box #2186 \*\ Bitnet: ac959%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm Inglewood, CA 90305 \*\ Internet: ac959@cleveland.freenet.edu USA \*\ v.: 213-759-7406 \*\ Fido: 1:102/752 \*\ GEnie: E.GREY1 ------------------------------ Date: 25 Apr 91 22:07:22 GMT From: prism!gt1448b@gatech.edu (David P. Forrai) Subject: CP/M or Osborne users groups Message-ID: <27332@hydra.gatech.EDU> My brother has regained his interest in his Osborne 1 and is looking to join a users group with PD software. He does not have a modem or ftp access, and there isn't a local group where he lives. Does CPMUG, SIG/M, or FOG still exist? If any of them do, what is there address and/or phone number? Thanks in advance. ----- David P. Forrai uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt1448b Internet: gt1448b@prism.gatech.edu -- David P. Forrai uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt1448b Internet: gt1448b@prism.gatech.edu ------------------------------ Date: 26 Apr 91 07:38:06 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!fmgst@decwrl.dec.com (Filip M Gieszczykiewicz) Subject: news Message-ID: <120478@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. I have a Sol20 (as you may remember :-) and have only 1 drive (second one is in the mail, or so I hear). Well, with just one drive I have been able to format a diskette and then SYSGEN it. I have been unable, however, to get either of the copy programs that came with the machine to work with my setup - PIP and SCOPY. Just when I thought all hope was lost, I came up with an idea on how to do it. It's quite simple if one has access to the DDT utility. (debugger) The procedure is as follows: 1) run DDT. You will get a message that DDT loaded and a version number will appear. The prompt should be a "-". 2) insert the SOURCE disk and type "Ifilename.ext" - no space between the I and the filename. 3) Now type "R" - either you get an error message or the file loads and gives you "NEXT PC" and on the second line the ending address and the starting address, respectively. 4) insert the DESTINATION disk. (I assume you have CP/M on it - for a warm-boot) 5) press CTRL-C (you should get the A> prompt) if computer hangs, you didn't SYSGEN the DESTINATION. 6) Now, I hope you wrote down the number under the "NEXT" header. That's the HEX ending address of the program now in memory. 7) For you hackers out there, quickly, what's the decimal equivalent of that hex number. For those non-hackers, either use a HEX-DEC table to a calculator and get that "NEXT" number into decimal. 8) type "SAVE nnn filename.ext". "SAVE" is a built-in CP/M command that saves nnn 256-byte pages to disk with the name of "filename.ext". This is equivalent to a core dump, for those with a UNIX background. Basicly, you are saving an image of memory to disk. NOW, the "nnn" is the DECIMAL equivalent of the "NEXT" number we just computed and "filename.ext" is the filename under which you want the core to be saved. 9) shut the machine off (to erase all RAM) and boot it. Now, run the program (or TYPE it if a TEXT file - yes you can do that too :-) 10) Look at that... I assmune noone knows this since it was never suggested - in reply to my 5+ postings ;-) Happy hacking. Take care. P.S. Now, for those with a Sol20 without a boot disk (but those that have a DiskJockey 2D @ 05000H :-), (no flames - these are no longer made and never will be), wanna a boot disk? ;-) -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "The Force will be with you, always." It _is_ with me and has been for 11 years Filip Gieszczykiewicz "... a Jedi does it with a mind trick... " ;-) FMGST@PITTVMS or fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu "My ideas. ALL MINE!!" ------------------------------ Date: 25 Apr 91 15:18:48 GMT From: haven.umd.edu!umbc3.umbc.edu!umbc5.umbc.edu!ac999303@purdue.edu (ac999303) Subject: Re: Finding System Software. Message-ID: <1991Apr25.151848.21032@umbc3.umbc.edu> schwartz@liszt.CES.CWRU.Edu (David Schwartz) writes: >Last week I bought an antique OSBORNE 1 computer. It seems to be in >good working order but I have no system software. I'm in the same boat. A friend gave me a Kaypro 4 several days ago, sans any diskettes. I have the manuals for the box, plus those for CP/M 2.0 (addendums to 2.2), CBASIC, S-BASIC, MS BASIC, Kaypro WORD, and Microplan. >I'm also looking for applications software. Me too. I am not sure of the legalities involved, but I would like to acquire the software for which I already have the manuals. I am familiar with the process of FTP to obtain public domain programs, but they don't do me much good w/o the o/s to run them. >No, I don't know what I'm going to do with it yet. Me neither. I also got a quite nice daisy wheel printer (which is currently being put to use off a spare serial port on my PC/AT) so I (or my sister) could use it for word processing, and I have a spare 1200 baud modem that I can plug into the Kaypro's serial port. I'm sure I can find a PD VT-100 emulator. It's certainly a curiosity that will remain on the shelf next to my old Apple ][. >Any OSBORNE owners out there who can help? Any KAYPRO owners out there who can help? Thanks in advance for all those E-mails I expect to receive! ;-) Peter Johansson ac999303@umbc3.umbc.edu ...uunet!umbc3!ac999303 EE240133@umbc2.BITNET ------------------------------ Date: 24 Apr 91 07:41:44 GMT From: mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!nuchat!lobster!urchin!f601.n106.z1.fidonet.org!TESSA.HEBERT@apple.com (TESSA HEBERT) Subject: Re: Selling a Xerox 820-II Computer (no drives) Message-ID: <11815.2814589A@urchin.fidonet.org> I'm using just such a beastie right now. It's a Xerox 820-II with 2 disc drives (did not come with modem). It was given to me & that may be some indication of it's true value; however, I'm glad to have it to bbs with. I understand that it was purchased from someone else for $60 total. I have also seen an ad for one for $100. So, I guess it's true value is whatever you can get for it, somewhere in the range between $60 & $100. You might try posting an ad on Gateway Houston in the wants-ads message base. Gateway Houston has a large videotel audience, because it's a rare bbs that can be accessed with a U.S. Videtel videobox. Many of the videobox users would gladly throw away their videoboxes if there were an affordable alternative (they cannot bbs anywhere else with the videoboxes). Gateway's phone numbers are: 723-3981, 723-2820, 723-3619 (it has 5 other lines for videobox access). But I think someone would to have a disc drive to use it for bbs-ing. ------------------------------ Date: 25 Apr 91 14:49:03 GMT From: aurs01!luce@uunet.uu.net (J. Luce) Subject: Turbo Pascal Toolbox Message-ID: <59761@aurs01.UUCP> I am still looking for a copy of the Turbo Pascal Toolbox for CP/M (especially for the B-Tree, and Overlay functions that PICS uses). If anyone has one, please let me know. Thanks, John ------------------------------------------------------------------- John Luce | Life is the leading cause of death Alcatel Network Systems | ----------------------------------------- Raleigh, NC | Standard Disclaimer Applies 919-850-6787 | Mail? Here? Try aurs01!aurw46!luce@mcnc.org | or ...!mcnc!aurgate!luce -------------------------------- or John.Luce@f130.n151.z1.fidonet.org ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #81 ************************************ 27-Apr-91 17:24:03-MDT,9634;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 27 Apr 91 17:15:05 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #82 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910427171506.V91N82@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 27 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 82 Today's Topics: 5.25" version of CPM 2.2 ? Amstrad PCW Computers BIOS Problems with Zilog Registers C Compilers Free stuff offered, boot disks needed... hard drive for KAYPRO II Re: Finding System Software. (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 Apr 91 17:51:55 GMT From: vax5.cit.cornell.edu!bqsy1@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu (Andrew R. Orndorff, Cornell University) Subject: 5.25" version of CPM 2.2 ? Message-ID: <1991Apr26.135155.4294@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> Thanks to all who responded to me about the 5.25" drives for the 820-II. One piece of mail from M. Sprague mentioned that I'll need the 5.25" disk version of CPM 2.2 in order to be able to access the 5.25" drives (something to do with the CBIOS). Anyone have any ideas where I can locate a copy of this. I currently have only the 8" disk version and from the responses I received, it sounds like I can't mix and match the drives to produce a boot disk on a 5.25" disk from an 8" source. Oh as further background, I'm going to be using regular density 5.25" drives. I'll save the hacking of high density drives for later. -- Andrew Orndorff CIT, Research & Analysis Cornell University Internet: bqsy1@vax5.cit.cornell.edu Bitnet: bqsy1@crnlvax5 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 91 10:32:49 -0400 From: Jay Sage Subject: Amstrad PCW Computers Message-ID: <9104261032.AA09412@LL.MIT.EDU> There have been several messages about Amstrad PCW computers recently. A very good source of commercial support (products for sale for Amstrads in on those unique Amstrad diskettes) is Elliam Associates. This is a very nice company that really tries hard to serve the CP/M community. Here is the full information: Elliam Associates PO Box 2664 Atascadero, CA 93423 805-446-8440 I, myself, have a PCW-8512 that I bought for developing and producing the Z3PLUS version of Z-System. Because of its large RAM disk (drive M:), the 8512 turns out to be an excellent platform for Z-System. Some Z-System programs, such as the ZMATE text editor, will even automatically adapt to the Amstrad's larger screen size. Anyone interested in the Z-System for Amstrad computers (or any other, of course) is invited to contact me. -- Jay Sage ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 91 10:28:53 -0400 From: Jay Sage Subject: BIOS Problems with Zilog Registers Message-ID: <9104261028.AA09385@LL.MIT.EDU> A short while ago there was some heated discussion about problems with UNCRLZH on an Amstrad computer that may have been the result of failure of the BIOS to preserve the Z80 alternate and/or index registers. This is a suprisingly common problem. My Televideo 803 has the problem, and so does the Epson QX10. We became aware of how many machines were afflicted when we started selling the ZDOS (ZSDOS and ZDDOS) BDOS replacements, which make extensive use of the extra registers. The manifestations of the problem are often subtle enough that one does not immediately realize that something drastic is actually going wrong. For those running the NZCOM version of Z-System, the fix is quite easy. We provide an extended version of the NZCOM virtual BIOS that preserves whatever registers the BIOS trashes. Since loading that, my Televideo has been working just fine. I was not aware of the problem with the Amstrad (I have a PCW-8512, though perhaps it is only the CPC machines that have the problem). Unfortunately, the fix there is not so easy. The Z3PLUS version of Z-System does not have a virtual BIOS, and the fix would probably require a full RSX, with all its overhead. Some experiments with a debugger might reveal exactly which BIOS calls are trashing the registers, and then perhaps a patch could be squeezed into the BIOS. -- Jay Sage ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Apr 91 10:32:48 -0400 From: Jay Sage Subject: C Compilers Message-ID: <9104261032.AA09408@LL.MIT.EDU> >> I would like to acquire a C compiler ... I have heard of a few compilers, >> namely BDS C and Aztec C. ... Can anyone direct me to where I can acquire >> a compiler? My wife's company is now the supplier of BDS C products, including the new BDS Z2.0, the only true Z-System high-level-language compiler (works under CP/M, too). Email me your postal address if you would like more information. >> I did obtain the SmallC compiler from the Simtel20 archives but was unable >> to extract it from the LBR file. Did DELBR fail to extract the file, or was the result not usable? I suspect that you may have extracted a compressed file and did not know how to decompress it. Are you familiar with compressed files, with 'Z', 'Y', or 'Q' as the middle letter of the file type? The library extractor EXL will extract and decompress at the same time. -- Jay Sage ------------------------------ Date: 27 Apr 91 05:12:32 GMT From: ucrmath!ucrmath.ucr.edu@ucsd.edu (Kevin Lund) Subject: Free stuff offered, boot disks needed... Message-ID: <13981@ucrmath.ucr.edu> Hi all, I'm looking for a couple things (and just to keep you reading, at the end will be a FREE equipment offer...). What I need are boot disks, specifically for a compupro 8/16...I had a line on this stuff but fell out of touch with the gentleman who was to provide it, so once again I'm at the mercy of the net. Secondly, although it's a bit out of the scope of this newsgroup, I need a boot disk/a manual/ANY information on...an Alpha Micro 1000E. I have nothing but the machine, and sage advice that it's a 68000 system. Any ideas? Next (the shots are getting longer), anybody have equipment to rack-mount an imsai? Anybody have an original imsai 8" drive cabinet? I'll also make offers on any unwanted S-100 cards out there as I have a couple fairly sparse card cages here (and a couple packed ones but that's another matter...). And now, the free equipment...300 baud S-100 modems, I have 2 with no documentation to the first...victim...ok, so it was a dirty trick, but you made it this far, eh? Thank you, and good night. Kevin Lund (kevin@ucrmath.ucr.edu) ------------------------------ Date: 27 Apr 91 16:15:21 GMT From: usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!news.larc.nasa.gov!mris.larc.nasa.gov!jka@apple.com (J. Keith Alston) Subject: hard drive for KAYPRO II Message-ID: <1991Apr27.161521.27969@news.larc.nasa.gov> Hello out there, I am the proud owner of a KAYPRO II in perfect working order. Still have all of the original DOCS and software, including CPM 2.2, Perfect Calc,MS-BASIC-80,Perfect filer,Perfect writer, Profit Plan and Perfect speller. I'm not using the machine right now, but would love to find some use for it. I'm currently running ISC unix on my 386 and am considering connecting up the KAYPRO as a terminal. Anyone out there done this sort of thing and how easy is it? I'm also interested in maybe adding a hard drive to this system(the KAYPRO) what kind of drive could I get? Any other ideas on how I could use this machine would be greatly appreciated. Thank-You, -- "In this world you must be OH so smart or OH so pleasant... I recommend pleasant"----> Elwood P. Dowd Lockheed Eng. and Sci. Co./Nasa Larc|J. Keith Alston jka@snow.larc.nasa.gov ------------------------------ Date: 26 Apr 91 18:05:05 GMT From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: Finding System Software. Message-ID: <1991Apr26.180505.16284@simasd.uucp> For David Schwartz: Tried to send you e-mail, but it bounced. Think I can help you. Please send me a valid e-mail address. Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 24 Apr 91 17:38:46 GMT From: nuchat!lobster!urchin!Charles.Cotham@uunet.uu.net (Charles Cotham) Subject: Re: Finding System Software. Message-ID: <11947.2815D7B8@urchin.fidonet.org> David, Drop me a note at the address below with the following information and I will see if I can get you going on your Osborne 1. I need to know what your screen says when you power up the machine ex. OCC Rom 1.44 or whatever. Also look in the lower right hand corner next to the BATT connector and see if there is a small 1/4 inch composite vidio connector like would be on a VCR. Also let me know what type of software you are interested in. See you later.. Charles Cotham 2205 Lilac St. Nederland, Tx. 77627 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #82 ************************************ 29-Apr-91 22:26:00-MDT,8948;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 29 Apr 91 22:15:09 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #83 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910429221510.V91N83@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 29 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 83 Today's Topics: keyboard needed Link between DEC Rainbow and '386 Re: 5.25" drives for 820-II? Re: Amstrad PCW Computers Re: C Compilers Televideo TS803H Updated rz/sz (Zmodem) for VMS now available want C compiler for UZI ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 29 Apr 91 22:53:35 GMT From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!ephillip%magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu@ucsd.edu (Earl W Phillips) Subject: keyboard needed Message-ID: Anybody know where I can get a keyboard for a xerox 820-II? ***************************************************************** * | ====@==== ///////// * * ephillip@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu| ``________// * * | `------' * * -JR- | Space;........the final * * | frontier............... * ***************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 26 Apr 91 14:42:08 GMT From: modus!gear!cadlab!albani@rutgers.edu (albani) Subject: Link between DEC Rainbow and '386 Message-ID: <796@cadlab.sublink.ORG> Hi! I've bought a second hand DEC Rainbow 100 with CP/M & MsDos 2.05 I use that beast as a VT102 terminal (so NO VT100 emulation... :-) But sometime, when my bigger machine is polling FidoNet (no multitask with BNU & Binkley...), I would like to editing something on the Rainbow. But the problem is the disk format: incompatible with my other machine. How to set up a link (via serial cable) with my 386 in CP/M (I like RED)? I remember something about PIP... Bye, Lanfranco -- Lanfranco Albani - CAD.LAB s.p.a., v. Stalingrado 45, Bologna, Italia Email: (work:) albani@cadlab.sublink.org, (home:) bob@allan.sublink.org Phone: (work:) ++39 (51) 371099, (home:) ++39 (51) 727372; Fax: ++39 (51) 366964 (work only), Fidonet: 2:332/401.4 (home only). ------------------------------ Date: 26 Apr 91 18:25:03 GMT From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: 5.25" drives for 820-II? Message-ID: <1991Apr26.182503.16717@simasd.uucp> bqsy1@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Andrew R. Orndorff, Cornell University) writes: > [...] But, I'd like to know what one has to do to change from >8" drives to 5.25" drives on the Xerox 820-II? Could it be as simple as >just rewiring the cables for the correct pinouts on the 5.25" drives? Yup, it's that simple. > Or is it a lot more, ie. software changes so that the computer will >correctly access the 5.25" drives? Nope, the software will recognize either. > And finally, barring any of the above, does anyone have a pair of >5.25" drives for an 820-II that they might consider selling, cheaply? Any old pair of 5.25" 360K double sided drives will do it nicely, but you might contact Mike Sprague, sprague.wbst311@xerox.com, and see if he has anything. Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 28 Apr 91 09:03:41 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Amstrad PCW Computers Message-ID: sage@ll.mit.edu (Jay Sage) writes: > I, myself, have a PCW-8512 that I bought for developing and producing the > Z3PLUS version of Z-System. Because of its large RAM disk (drive M:), the > 8512 turns out to be an excellent platform for Z-System. Some Z-System > programs, such as the ZMATE text editor, will even automatically adapt to the > Amstrad's larger screen size. Anyone interested in the Z-System for Amstrad > computers (or any other, of course) is invited to contact me. > > -- Jay Sage Just wondering, is ZMATE a PD or commercial package? ------------------------------ Date: 28 Apr 91 09:06:09 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: C Compilers Message-ID: sage@ll.mit.edu (Jay Sage) writes: > The library extractor EXL will > extract and decompress at the same time. > > -- Jay Sage So will LT29.COM, using all decompression schemes. It works VERY well on all of my systems, including my CompuPro 8/16 with a slave Z-80 processor, and the whole system runs Concurrent DOS. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 91 22:22 CST From: LANCE TAGLIAPIETRA Subject: Televideo TS803H Message-ID: <8206EEA94E7F0032C9@ucs.uwplatt.edu> Hello, I recently purchaged couple Televideo computers: one TS803H with one half height flopply and one 10 meg hard drive, and one with two half height floppy drives and no hard drive. The hard drive machines works perfectly, and dual floppy machine does not. With the pair I did get some manuals: TS803H users manual and the TeleSolutions word processor/speadsheet/graphics package. And one boot floopy. The hard drive was set up to auto-boot and had the telesolutions software already loaded. There was also a version of wordstar on the system configured for it. The 803HDEMO files were also on the hard drive as were the utility programs described in the User Manual. A TS803 manual was not provided, only an 803H manual. Is the TS803 manual much different from the TS803H manual? Does the TS803 require a boot floppy different from the 803H? What type of mouse will work in the mouse port? If you have one of these machines, or hardware information about it, I would appreciate hearing from you! There are several upgrades mentioned in the users manual and demos that sound interesting to me. I am also interested on the hard drive interface, which is not discussed at all in the Users Manual. Thanks in advance, Lance Tagliapietra taglance@ucs.uwplatt.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1991 11:04 MDT From: Keith Petersen Subject: Updated rz/sz (Zmodem) for VMS now available Keywords: modem,xmodem,ymodem,zmodem,unix,vax,vms,omen,forsberg Message-ID: Notice: Please note SIMTEL20's new IP address is 192.88.110.20, effective immediately. Please use it instead of our old address if you use IP numbers instead of the host name. Chuck Forsberg's rz/sz for VAX/VMS has been updated. The updated file was obtained directly from Chuck's BBS and is now available from WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL [192.88.110.20]. Directory: PD1: File name: RZSZ9104.TLB Function: X/Y/Zmodem for VAX/VMS File type: VMS Text LIBrary This is a binary file which should be stored as a 512 byte FIXED record file with carriage control NONE on VMS. To extract files from rzsz.tlb, issue the following DCL commands: $ LIB/EXTRACT=EXTRACT_TLB^COM/OUTPUT=EXTRACT_TLB.COM rzsz.tlb $ @EXTRACT_TLB rzsz/exit Keith -- Keith Petersen Maintainer of SIMTEL20's MSDOS, MISC and CP/M archives - [192.88.110.20] Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil or w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu Uucp: uunet!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND ------------------------------ Date: 26 Apr 91 09:55:07 GMT From: mcsun!hp4nl!alchemy!clldomps@uunet.uu.net (Louis van Dompselaar) Subject: want C compiler for UZI Message-ID: <1991Apr26.095507.1656@cs.ruu.nl> I'm looking for a good C compiler to compile UZI (the Unix Z80 Implementation). I'm now using Hisoft's C, but this compiler does not have a very large global symbol table, so it can't compile the code. I know UZI was originally compiled with the CodeWorks Q/C compiler, but I don't know where to get that one. And then again, this one relies heavily on L80, and as I'm working with a CP/M compatible system (BTW, with a MS-DOS like COMMAND.COM :-) ), I do not have this (Maybe someone could also tell me about some PD linker, or something). Louis van Dompselaar clldomps@praxis.cs.ruu.nl ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #83 ************************************