1-Sep-91 01:41:38-MDT,6599;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 1-Sep-91 01:36:53 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 1 Sep 91 01:36:52 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #152 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910901013653.V91N152@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 1 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 152 Today's Topics: Re: cpm undelete function and more.... (2 msgs) Re: Summary of adding/replacing 5 1/4" HD drives on 8" system wanted! SASI for Big Board (Xerox) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 30 Aug 91 13:45:00 GMT From: mintaka!ogicse!qiclab!nosun!techbook!fzsitvay@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Frank Zsitvay) Subject: Re: cpm undelete function and more.... Message-ID: <1991Aug30.134500.26565@techbook.com> In article <1991Aug29.073530.29874@lth.se> andersh@maths.lth.se (Anders Holtsberg) writes: >Dear Eric A. Rasmussen and all other wizzards in this group. >The *undelete* function mentioned in the Subject line, might >that help me with the following? well, i doubt it, but read on... >A dear friend of mine has typed in a archeological manuscript >of 50 pages on an Amstrad word processor running CP/M equiped >with a somewhat obscure drive for rectangular discs. Error: something >like "can't read sektor 0". All other sectors OK (But we don't have >any program to read them). No back up. No sign of shit on the disc. >One and a half week of full time job to recreate it. The one to give >a correct hint or a disc-crash recover program will be honored with >deep gratitude. Any hint pleeeeeease...... > ok, there are several possibilities... if the amstrad numbers their sectors starting from 0 (which is strange) as the first sector on the disk, and with X as the last sector on the disk, it could be that the boot track was fried somehow. you can repair that type of damage with SYSGEN or similar utility on your system. (note: some implementations of CP/M do not come with sysgen, and you often can't lift sysgen from one system and use it on another. there is apparently something hardware specific about it.) it is possible that the first sector of the directory was trashed, which means that you either can reconstruct it to the point where you'll be able to resurect the file(s) you want, or at least view it and write down the block numbers by hand, and then use a sector/editor program like DU to retrieve the blocks one by one (which i'll admit is kinda tedious for a 50 page file) and stick them into a file. if you could provide some more information about what error messages you get when you try certain operations, then it would be easier to narrow down the problem so as to give you the correct help. -- fzsitvay@techbook.COM - but don't quote me on that.... According to a reputable source, 'glastnost' translated from Russian really means 'lesser grade of barbed wire.' ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 91 06:53:10 GMT From: ogicse!milton!lbullis@uunet.uu.net (Lawrence Bullis) Subject: Re: cpm undelete function and more.... Message-ID: <1991Aug31.065310.6446@milton.u.washington.edu> fzsitvay@techbook.com (Frank Zsitvay) writes: >In article <1991Aug29.073530.29874@lth.se> andersh@maths.lth.se (Anders Holtsberg) writes: >>A dear friend of mine has typed in a archeological manuscript >>of 50 pages on an Amstrad word processor running CP/M equiped >>with a somewhat obscure drive for rectangular discs. Error: something >>like "can't read sektor 0". All other sectors OK (But we don't have >>any program to read them). No back up. No sign of shit on the disc. > > it is possible that the first sector of the directory was trashed, which >means that you either can reconstruct it to the point where you'll be able >to resurect the file(s) you want, or at least view it and write down the >block numbers by hand, and then use a sector/editor program like DU to >retrieve the blocks one by one (which i'll admit is kinda tedious for a >50 page file) and stick them into a file. I don't know anything about the Amstrad, but I once had to use DU to reconstruct a file, and I thought maybe this could be of use to you. Who knows? You can use DU to lift the data from a sector on one disk and then take that disk out, put in the bad disk, and it can write that same sector to the bad disk. Thus, if you have a good disk and a copy of DU, you might be able to restore that bad sector. DU doesn't check for the disk being the same one. I had to do hundreds of sectors this way once, and it did work. It was just the books for my business for the entire year, and a date with the tax auditor made the tedium somehow seem less significant than the relief the success of the project produced. Do try with a not so important disk first, to make sure you understand how it works and that it actually does. Of course, if there is something physically wrong with the disk, it won't work. Larry ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 91 19:25:02 GMT From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: Summary of adding/replacing 5 1/4" HD drives on 8" system wanted! Message-ID: <1991Aug31.192502.27889@baron.uucp> As I recall, Mike Sprague (sprague.wbst311@xerox.com) went through such a process some time back. Perhaps he will repost a summary of his experiences, or you might query him directly. - don Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 91 19:09:04 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!dali.cs.montana.edu!milton!sumax!polari!rwing!fnx!del@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Dag Erik Lindberg) Subject: SASI for Big Board (Xerox) Message-ID: <1121@fnx.UUCP> I recently acquired a DTC SASI->MFM bridge adapter. I was thinking that it might be easily hooked up to the parallel ports on a BB. Has anybody written a driver to do this? -- del AKA Erik Lindberg uunet!pilchuck!fnx!del Who is John Galt? ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #152 ************************************* 3-Sep-91 01:08:27-MDT,4696;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 3-Sep-91 01:05:16 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 3 Sep 91 01:05:15 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #153 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910903010516.V91N153@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 3 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 153 Today's Topics: Re: SASI for Big Board (Xerox) (2 msgs) VT100 For A Kaypro? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 1 Sep 91 14:22:01 GMT From: bobsbox!gnat!cmcewen@rutgers.edu (Chris McEwen) Subject: Re: SASI for Big Board (Xerox) Message-ID: del@fnx.UUCP (Dag Erik Lindberg) writes: > I recently acquired a DTC SASI->MFM bridge adapter. I was thinking > that it might be easily hooked up to the parallel ports on a BB. > Has anybody written a driver to do this? Wayne Sung wrote an article on interfacing a Bournelli drive to a CP/M computer in the January/February 1991 issue of The Computer Journal. It included both schematics and source code and involved adapting the parallel port to a SCSI port. Since SASI is the forerunner of SCSI, I would think you could get a headstart with Wayne's approach. You can order the back issue for $4.50 (US) or $6.00 (Foriegn, airmail) in US funds. Ask for issue number 48. Chris McEwen Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal Editor, TCJ uucp: ..!att!nsscmail!gnat!cmcewen | PO Box 12 GEnie: c.mcewen -or- TCJ$ | S Plainfield NJ 07080 | (908) 755-6186 ------------------------------ Date: 2 Sep 91 12:38:58 GMT From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!ewen@uunet.uu.net (Ewen McNeill) Subject: Re: SASI for Big Board (Xerox) Message-ID: <1991Sep02.123858.7612@actrix.gen.nz> In article cmcewen@gnat.rent.com (Chris McEwen) writes: > del@fnx.UUCP (Dag Erik Lindberg) writes: > > I recently acquired a DTC SASI->MFM bridge adapter. I was thinking > > that it might be easily hooked up to the parallel ports on a BB. > > Has anybody written a driver to do this? > > Wayne Sung wrote an article on interfacing a Bournelli drive to a CP/M > computer in the January/February 1991 issue of The Computer Journal. It > included both schematics and source code and involved adapting the > parallel port to a SCSI port. Since SASI is the forerunner of SCSI, I > would think you could get a headstart with Wayne's approach. > Let me add my independant recommendation of TCJ, and that particular article. Issue 48 of TCJ was the very first I had ever seen, and I was really impressed. That article was the one that started me thinking about a hard drive for my Amstrad again. With some kind help of the net (esp. people in sci.electronics) I found a source of bridge boards, and bought one. That article contained enough information for me to get my host controller up and going. The hardware for my drive is now almost done. The parts used by the circuit described in the article are the sort of thing that any self-respecting hardware hacker would have in his/her junkbox... I don't think I actually bought anything to get the host circuit up and going. The software listed is sufficent for a CP/M 2.2 setup, but I am going to have a little more fun writing the software for my banked (CP/M Plus) setup. The source listing provided is a good starting place though. I think it is even possible to get a copy of the source on magnetic media, which should make things nicer for those who want to use it "as is". > Chris McEwen Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal -- Ewen McNeill, ewen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ Date: 1 Sep 91 13:52:22 GMT From: mintaka!spdcc!Cthulhu!antia@yale-bulldog.arpa (Bob Antia) Subject: VT100 For A Kaypro? Message-ID: <1507@cthulhuControl.COM> Recently I have become the owner of a 'pile' of Kaypros and would like to use them to connect to unix boxes. The minimum terminal seems to be a vt100. Does anyone know where there might be a terminal program that supports vt100 emulation?. As I was browsing simtel the other day I did see quite a few CPM files but with extentions I have never seen. What are the 'standard' archiving formats for cpm programs on the net? thanks Bob Antia antia@control.com ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #153 ************************************* 4-Sep-91 08:21:41-MDT,10646;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 4 Sep 91 08:15:05 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #154 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910904081506.V91N154@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 4 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 154 Today's Topics: Amstrad disc problem Re: text editors: Re: VT100 For A Kaypro? software available? text editors: text editors: commodo ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 3 Sep 91 22:54:23 GMT From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!cavebbs!lesley@uunet.uu.net (Lesley Walker) Subject: Amstrad disc problem Message-ID: <1991Sep03.225423.16388@cavebbs.gen.nz> >In article <1991Aug29.073530.29874@lth.se> andersh@maths.lth.se (Anders Holtsberg) writes: > >>A dear friend of mine has typed in a archeological manuscript >>of 50 pages on an Amstrad word processor running CP/M equiped >>with a somewhat obscure drive for rectangular discs. Error: something >>like "can't read sektor 0". All other sectors OK (But we don't have >>any program to read them). No back up. No sign of shit on the disc. >>One and a half week of full time job to recreate it. The one to give >>a correct hint or a disc-crash recover program will be honored with >>deep gratitude. Any hint pleeeeeease...... >> In article <1991Aug30.134500.26565@techbook.com> fzsitvay@techbook.com (Frank Zsitvay) writes: > ok, there are several possibilities... > [describes quite valid hacking solution] Yes, and here's another possibility: If, as I suspect, this is a PCW with a 720k drive, and it's a 720k disc, then the the disc may have been inserted the wrong way round. I got fooled by this once. I did send email to Anders about this, but haven't had any response, so I don't know if it got through. Lesley. PCW exponent extra^H^H^H^H^Hordinaire. -- The Leather Goddess - DoD#258 * lesley@cavebbs.gen.nz Wellington, NZ. Yamaha XV1000 * Lesley.Walker@bbs.actrix.gen.nz "This world is only gonna break your heart" - Chris Isaak ------------------------------ Date: 4 Sep 91 14:18:24 GMT From: ssiny!gnohmon@uunet.uu.net (Ralph Betza) Subject: Re: text editors: Message-ID: <191@ssiny.UUCP> In article <1991Sep2.1042.1761@canrem.uucp>, larry.moore@canrem.uucp (larry moore) writes: > > >Ideally (although this is secondary to all the other items) it > >should have Emacs-style key bindings. (Has anyone ported > >MicroEmacs to CP/M?) I ported MicroEmacs to CP/M. When I finished, there were no living CP/M BBSes to post it to.... I never tried running it off a floppy; overlays are required, and hard-disk performance was pretty good; the overlay most often in memory contained page up/down, start-of-line, and so forth, in other words the most common commands. AZTEC-C was used for compiling. Other limitations: no Regular Expression Search; no Search/Replace ( but you can search and then execute keyboard macro ); cannot keep up with typing speed in two-window mode; maximum file size is about 30K, because the file is all in memory -- this is the maximum of ALL FILES at once! Good points: a REAL EDITOR that works under CP/M!!!!! In one-window mode, it runs as fast as you can type. Useful features added: go-to-next-sequential-buffer, go-to-first-Word, and others... ( don't remember all the details ). Now, the big question: where could I post this? does anyone want to see it? And, how do I post this source? I don't have a shar-wrapping utility, just where is it on uunet and where do I get it? ------------------------------ Date: 4 Sep 91 01:24:02 GMT From: taco!eos.ncsu.edu!dowalker@gatech.edu (David Walker) Subject: Re: VT100 For A Kaypro? Message-ID: <1991Sep4.012402.2597@ncsu.edu> Most Unix Boxes will also support vt52 there is a nice program called 'vt52.com' at SIMTEL20 and wuarchive's simtel mirror, that allows the old 2.5 MHz Kaypros to run at 2400 and 4800 baud. It's dumb terminal only (no logging, no up/downloads), but its very nice for terminal usage. ------------------------------ Date: 2 Sep 91 12:54:58 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!lsuc!canrem![larry.moore%canrem.uucp]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (larry moore) Subject: software available? Message-ID: <1991Sep2.1042.1760@canrem.uucp> >z Newsgroup: comp.os.cpm >z Message-ID: <1991Aug30.170252.14350@spool.cs.wisc.edu> >z Subject: cp/m software availability > >I've been wondering about the availability of CP/M >software and documentation. I've seen the "cp/m compilers" >list posted here, but I was wondering if any other cpm >software is still available, for example, what about the >z-system and its' various utilities, editors, linkers, etc. > >I'm asking because i'm considering using a sb180 or an old >s-100 system that I can pick up as a native "development" >system for a dedicated z80 controller project, and I would like to >know if there is software out there (editors, z-system, assemblers, >etc) that I can do the work with. > >thanks for any help >Joe >-- >Joe Burger University of Wisconsin-Madison Computer Systems Lab Yes, there are a few people who still know CP/M exists. Several of the Znodes and RCPM's carry a periodically updated list of who's still carrying CP/M software. Perhaps one of the unix archive sites (simtel20?) has it also ... file name of the latest release is CPMSVL-D.LBR. . You might ask Jay Sage for information regarding Z-System utilities especially about Zmate (which he adapted from Pmate). . There is also a Z-System floppy disk mailing service operated by Chris Ewens, the editor of 'The Computer Journal'. | UUCP: lsuc!canrem!Larry.Moore | Canada Remote Systems CP/M ConferenceChairperson | -- Canada Remote Systems. Toronto, Ontario NorthAmeriNet Host ------------------------------ Date: 2 Sep 91 12:54:58 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!lsuc!canrem![larry.moore%canrem.uucp]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (larry moore) Subject: text editors: Message-ID: <1991Sep2.1042.1761@canrem.uucp> >Now for my question: what is the best pd/free/shareware text editor >for CP/M? Primary concerns include small size, speed, and a basic >feature set including cut/paste, rapid movement through the file (by >screen/page, or ideally with some sort of search capability). Ability >to do margins, centering, justification, boldface, etc. is not >necessary. . NewWord or WordStar 4.0 if you're lucky enough to have it bundled with your system - and you like the WS diamond. Fast, unlimited file size, good range of printer drivers. Sweet. . VDE or ZDE ! Hands down the best WS diamond PD editor! Edited file is limited by available TPA, but you run fsplit13 on a large text file to split it into small enough chunks, edit the chunks with ZDE or VDE, then use CONCAT to paste the pieces again. . Can't comment on Zmate ... I've only had Zmate for a short while, incredibly powerful and complex, needs Z-System. . >Ideally (although this is secondary to all the other items) it >should have Emacs-style key bindings. (Has anyone ported >MicroEmacs to CP/M?) There's a way of emulating MicroEMACS using the editor that comes with the MIX C compiler package but it's not very satisfactory. You might (with a little work) be able to get Zmate to emulate MicroEMACS ... I haven't tried this since my fingers only know WS ... but reading the docs, it sounds possible to emulate (at least) the basic EMACS key strokes; (at best) a large chuck of the EMACS command set. There was an editor that did emacs fairly well called MINCE (MINCE Is Not Emacs) by Mark of the Unicorn - don't know if it's still available, had a good review in Microsystems. Hope this helps. | UUCP: lsuc!canrem!Larry.Moore | Canada Remote Systems CP/M ConferenceChairperson | -- Canada Remote Systems. Toronto, Ontario NorthAmeriNet Host ------------------------------ Date: 1 Sep 91 21:31:14 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!lsuc!canrem![ray.whidden%canrem.uucp]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (ray whidden) Subject: text editors: commodo Message-ID: <1991Sep1.1042.1759@canrem.uucp> TO: bwildasi@silver.ucs.indiana.edu BW>z Newsgroup: comp.os.cpm BW>z Message-ID: <1991Aug30.184200.28657@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> BW>z Subject: Text Editors: Commodore 128, CP/M 3.0 BW>First off, thanks to everyone who helped me with my decompression problem. I BW>ended up using the program "ucrlzh" from simtel20. Glad to hear you got that problem cleared up. Now the next one... BW>Now for my question: what is the best pd/free/shareware text editor for BW>CP/M? Primary concerns include small size, speed, and a basic feature set BW>including cut/paste, rapid movement through the file (by screen/page, or BW>ideally with some sort of search capability). Ability to do margins, BW>centering, justification, boldface, etc. is not necessary. Ideally BW>(although this is secondary to all the other items) it should have BW>Emacs-style key bindings. (Has anyone ported MicroEmacs to CP/M?) VDE and ZDE, it's Z-system descendant, do much of what you want and supports macros. The author is still working on it, unfortunately, now in the PC environment (hey, he has to make a living... ). I used it on my C=128 until the CP/M got to small for my genealogy database. Now I use the PC VDE on my 386. I've heard some people talk highly of PMATE, I believe a commercial product. Have never seen it though. BW>This is a sensitive subject, so why don't you send me e-mail rather than BW>posting; I don't want this group to degenerate into a flame war... I will BW>summarize my responses after I have had a chance to try out some of the BW>suggested editors. Regards, Ray uucp: canrem!ray.whidden | Scarborough, Ontario internet: ray.whidden%canrem@lsuc.on.ca| --- ~ DeLuxe}/386 1.12 #4419 ~ Alberta: Wild Rose Country -- Canada Remote Systems. Toronto, Ontario NorthAmeriNet Host ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #154 ************************************* 5-Sep-91 14:17:55-MDT,13223;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 5 Sep 91 14:15:29 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #155 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910905141530.V91N155@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 5 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 155 Today's Topics: Altos 5-15ad (multiuser) $200 Editors ? The MIX editor INFO-CPM Digest V91 #153 RE: software available? S-100 Systems For Sale Text Editors z80MU ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 5 Sep 91 04:05:07 GMT From: bobsbox!gnat!news@rutgers.edu (Andreas Meyer) Subject: Altos 5-15ad (multiuser) $200 Message-ID: (updated 91Aug18) Altos Series 5 microcomputer, Model 5-15ad Ready to run! This machine supports 3 users! Hardware: Z80 CPU, 64k RAM Dual 5.25" floppy drives (700k each) 4 serial ports (3 user, 1 printer) 1 parallel port (alt. printer) User's manual Software: MP/M, CP/M, CCS Business BASIC ...and much, much more! Compact! Only 7"H x 14"W x 16"D! $200 OBO This is not an S100 machine. It does not have a hard drive (and it was designed that way). If you act now, I will include an ADDS Viewpoint terminal FREE! Email or phone: Andy 908-668-6202 weekdays -- Andreas Meyer, N2FYE jacked into cyberspace from my home in Dunellen, NJ Internet: ahm@gnat.rent.com uucp: {backbone}!att!nsscmail!gnat!ahm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Sep 91 17:45:25 IST From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" Subject: Editors ? The MIX editor The MIX editor does all you want, and the way it does reminds emacs. More than 100 commands, macros, free key binding. Look for any MIX ad in BYTE for example, phone them for their CP/M editor. I paid them less than 20$ for it a few years ago. Less sportive than doing it yourself, but MY time is money, what about yours? Jacques ------------------------------ Date: 05 Sep 91 14:14:05 MDT From: S8ZB6@starburst.uscolo.edu Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #153 Return-Path: <@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU:DIST-CPM@RPIECS.BITNET> Received: from pucc.PRINCETON.EDU [128.112.129.99] by STARBURST.uscolo.edu ; 03 Sep 91 08:29:54 MDT Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with BSMTP id 5568; Tue, 03 Sep 91 10:25:55 EDT Received: from PUCC.BITNET by PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 9543; Tue, 03 Sep 91 10:09:57 EDT Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1991 01:05:15 MDT Reply-to: INFO-CPM%WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU Sender: INFO-CPM Mailing List From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST%WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #153 X-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL To: Multiple recipients of list DIST-CPM INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 3 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 153 Today's Topics: Re: SASI for Big Board (Xerox) (2 msgs) VT100 For A Kaypro? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 1 Sep 91 14:22:01 GMT From: bobsbox!gnat!cmcewen@rutgers.edu (Chris McEwen) Subject: Re: SASI for Big Board (Xerox) Message-id: del@fnx.UUCP (Dag Erik Lindberg) writes: > I recently acquired a DTC SASI->MFM bridge adapter. I was thinking > that it might be easily hooked up to the parallel ports on a BB. > Has anybody written a driver to do this? Wayne Sung wrote an article on interfacing a Bournelli drive to a CP/M computer in the January/February 1991 issue of The Computer Journal. It included both schematics and source code and involved adapting the parallel port to a SCSI port. Since SASI is the forerunner of SCSI, I would think you could get a headstart with Wayne's approach. You can order the back issue for $4.50 (US) or $6.00 (Foriegn, airmail) in US funds. Ask for issue number 48. Chris McEwen Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal Editor, TCJ uucp: ..!att!nsscmail!gnat!cmcewen | PO Box 12 GEnie: c.mcewen -or- TCJ$ | S Plainfield NJ 07080 | (908) 755-6186 ------------------------------ Date: 2 Sep 91 12:38:58 GMT From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!ewen@uunet.uu.net (Ewen McNeill) Subject: Re: SASI for Big Board (Xerox) Message-id: <1991Sep02.123858.7612@actrix.gen.nz> In article cmcewen@gnat.rent.com (Chris McEwen) writes: > del@fnx.UUCP (Dag Erik Lindberg) writes: > > I recently acquired a DTC SASI->MFM bridge adapter. I was thinking > > that it might be easily hooked up to the parallel ports on a BB. > > Has anybody written a driver to do this? > > Wayne Sung wrote an article on interfacing a Bournelli drive to a CP/M > computer in the January/February 1991 issue of The Computer Journal. It > included both schematics and source code and involved adapting the > parallel port to a SCSI port. Since SASI is the forerunner of SCSI, I > would think you could get a headstart with Wayne's approach. > Let me add my independant recommendation of TCJ, and that particular article. Issue 48 of TCJ was the very first I had ever seen, and I was really impressed. That article was the one that started me thinking about a hard drive for my Amstrad again. With some kind help of the net (esp. people in sci.electronics) I found a source of bridge boards, and bought one. That article contained enough information for me to get my host controller up and going. The hardware for my drive is now almost done. The parts used by the circuit described in the article are the sort of thing that any self-respecting hardware hacker would have in his/her junkbox... I don't think I actually bought anything to get the host circuit up and going. The software listed is sufficent for a CP/M 2.2 setup, but I am going to have a little more fun writing the software for my banked (CP/M Plus) setup. The source listing provided is a good starting place though. I think it is even possible to get a copy of the source on magnetic media, which should make things nicer for those who want to use it "as is". > Chris McEwen Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal -- Ewen McNeill, ewen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ Date: 1 Sep 91 13:52:22 GMT From: mintaka!spdcc!Cthulhu!antia@yale-bulldog.arpa (Bob Antia) Subject: VT100 For A Kaypro? Message-id: <1507@cthulhuControl.COM> Recently I have become the owner of a 'pile' of Kaypros and would like to use them to connect to unix boxes. The minimum terminal seems to be a vt100. Does anyone know where there might be a terminal program that supports vt100 emulation?. As I was browsing simtel the other day I did see quite a few CPM files but with extentions I have never seen. What are the 'standard' archiving formats for cpm programs on the net? thanks Bob Antia antia@control.com ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #153 ************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 91 15:07:31 -0400 From: Jay Sage Subject: RE: software available? Message-ID: <9109041507.AA02637@LL.MIT.EDU> Joe Burger asked about sources of CP/M software. The CP/M software vendor list that someone else recently mentioned is a good place to look, but unfortunately this list has not been maintained in recent years. A good way to keep up with those who are ACTIVELY supporting CP/M today is to read "The Computer Journal" and the "Z Letter", whose editor/publishers can be contacted at the following addresses: The Computer Journal Chris McEwen gnat!cmcewen@nsscmail.att.com Z Letter David McGlone MCGLONE_DAVID@TANDEM.COM -- Jay Sage ------------------------------ Date: 4 Sep 91 20:44:39 GMT From: ogicse!cvedc!gss.com!geoffs@decwrl.dec.com (Geoff Shapiro) Subject: S-100 Systems For Sale Message-ID: <1991Sep4.204439.424@gss.com> I have two older S-100 machines stored away in my closet at home. Now, because I have no use for them and (more importantly) because my wife has even less use for them, I would like to sell them. I have not attempted to power them up in the last 5-7 years. Some particulars: Ithaca Intersystems DPS-1 ------------------------- A front panel machine with 20 slot motherboard and a honker power supply. Two 8" floppy drives and a 5.25" floppy. Numerous plug-in circuit cards: Godbout 8085/8088 CPU card Godbout Disk1 floppy drive controller card z-80 cpu Ithaca Intersystems floppy drive controller card 8086 cpu (homebrew, wire-wrapped) Godbout Interfacer III i/o card (2) Godbout System Support I's (multifunction card) (2) 256kb memory cards Plug-in bus probe analyzer card etc... This system cost over $6000 when it was bought new 10 years ago. Now, $500 OBO takes it (you pay the shipping). I have manuals for some of the cards but not all. There is a bunch of CP/M software also (CP/M2, CP/M3, Pascal, Microsoft Basic, more...). Processor Technology SOL ------------------------ This system was bought in 1978 from the Computer Mart of NY when Stan Veit (now editor emeritus of Computer Shopper) owned the store. It was (and still could be) a real example of one of the first and best in micro's. It's case has walnut side panels (wow, haven't seen this in any computers since). Unfortunately, it doesn't work right now. At one point it was used in a warehouse for inventory control and the warehouse was unheated in the winter. The warmth of the computer was an attraction too strong for some of the resident rodent population which quickly took up residence in the inside of the system. Their bodily fluids have eaten away some of the pins of some of the chips on the system board. The original assembly manual is part of the package, however, so some enterprising electronics hobbyist should have no trouble getting the thing to work again. The system cost about $2500 when I first bought it. I don't really know what to offer this system for but the best offer will get it. Once again the buyer pays the shipping charges. -- INTERNET: geoffs@gss.com Geoff Shapiro USMAIL: Spectragraphics Corp. PHONE: (503) 641-2200 GSS Personal Graphics Division 9590 S.W. Gemini Dr. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 91 15:07:28 -0400 From: Jay Sage Subject: Text Editors Message-ID: <9109041507.AA02633@LL.MIT.EDU> Ralph Betza (ssiny!gnohmon@uunet.uu.net) wrote: >> I ported MicroEmacs to CP/M. When I finished, there were no living CP/M >> BBSes to post it to.... I won't quibble with the first part, but the second part of your statement is certainly not true. Perhaps you did not know about all the CP/M boards, but there is quite a long list published every month. I suppose this is a further illustration of the big problem we in the 8-bit world are facing: people who don't already know about the sources of support have no way to find out about them. >> Good points: a REAL EDITOR that works under CP/M!!!!! That may be, but I think there are a number of other good, probably even better possibilities. For normal users ZDE is a very good performer. For 'power' users -- the kind of people who would like Emacs or TECO -- there is ZMATE (formerly PMATE). It has fully bindable keys and an advanced macro language capability. It is quite fast, handles large files (via disk swapping), and supports two windows. ZMATE works with the Z-System TCAP to configure automatically to the current terminal characteristics, including the height and width of the screen. The Computer Journal has a regular column on PMATE macros. VEDIT is a similar editor (I believe it started as a clone), but I have always found it lacking in some critical areas where PMATE did things right. I also just heard that the author of VEDIT has dropped support of the CP/M version of the editor. I am currently supporting ZMATE. -- Jay Sage ------------------------------ Date: 4 Sep 91 15:44:03 GMT From: zon+@andrew.cmu.edu (Zonnie Lee Williamson) Subject: z80MU Message-ID: Can someone please E-Mail me where I can get a copy of the sources to the Z80MU CP/M emulator? Thanks in advance. Zon Williamson, MacMach Project, CMU zon@andrew.cmu.edu ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #155 ************************************* 7-Sep-91 00:32:20-MDT,7722;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 7-Sep-91 00:29:57 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 7 Sep 91 00:29:56 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #156 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910907002957.V91N156@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 7 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 156 Today's Topics: filepl31.lbr Eagle IIE motherboard schematics? Keper of the disks MIX Editor Re: z80MU (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Sep 91 08:30 CST From: TAGLANCE@ucs.UWPLATT.EDU Subject: filepl31.lbr Message-ID: <1C539395227F200643@ucs.uwplatt.edu> The simtel20 version file pd:filepl31.lbr seems to be corrupted. The library files extract o.k. but the .com files do not run properly. The program as installed will crash in varying places on varying machines, (I have tried a Televideo TS-803H and a TRS-80 Model 4). The installation program also crashes. I would appreciate if you could attempt to replicate my results. Fileplot is a program for turning a set of data points in a file into a high resolution printout on dot matrix printers. Lance Tagliapietra taglance@ucs.uwplatt.edu ------------------------------ Date: 6 Sep 91 12:21:56 GMT From: news.larc.nasa.gov!grissom.larc.nasa.gov!bjax@uunet.uu.net ( Bruce Jackson) Subject: Eagle IIE motherboard schematics? Message-ID: <1991Sep6.122156.13585@news.larc.nasa.gov> Does anyone have or know where I can get a schematic of the Eagle computer model IIE motherboard? It seems my old machine has suddenly decided to speak Cyrllic, or some other foreign tongue. The characters appear to be coming from a different character set, _and change at each press of a keyboard key_. The computer, other than that, works fine. I need a set of prints to try to track down the problem. Thanks in advance for any help. Bruce -- Bruce Jackson NASA Langley Research Center MS 489, Hampton, VA 23665 (804) 864-4060 ------------------------------ Date: 5 Sep 91 23:57:00 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!ephillip%magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Earl W Phillips) Subject: Keper of the disks Message-ID: To the keeper of the CP/M disks; I lost your e-address, could you send it to me? ***************************************************************** * | ====@==== ///////// * * ephillip@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu| ``________// * * | `------' * * -JR- | Space;........the final * * | frontier............... * ***************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 91 01:57:50 -0400 From: ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Subject: MIX Editor Message-ID: <9109060557.AA28584@cwns1.INS.CWRU.Edu> >Date: Wed, 04 Sep 91 17:45:25 IST >From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" >Subject: Editors ? The MIX editor >The MIX editor does all you want, and the way it does reminds emacs. >More than 100 commands, macros, free key binding. >Look for any MIX ad in BYTE for example, phone them for their CP/M editor. >I paid them less than 20$ for it a few years ago. Less sportive than doing >it yourself, but MY time is money, what about yours? >Jacques *************************** I have the MIX Editor for sale in both CP/M and PCDOS versions. Among the many excellent features of the MIX Editor are the ability to work on two files simultaneously. The manuals for the MIX C and the MIX Editor cover both the CP/M and the PCDOS versions. The software is available on many UNIFORM supported 5.25" (DD) CP/M and IBM-PC (360K) disk formats. I prefer to use TeleVideo (5.25", DD, DS, 48tpi) CP/M disks, since I use TeleVideo computers and therefore I can test the disk before shipping. Please specify your choice. The price for each of the above software packages is only $20.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and handling (UPS ground, in the continental US). Orders shipped to a California address must include 8.25% sales tax. If you order both the CP/M and PCDOS versions of either the MIX C compiler or MIX Editor the price is only $25.00 plus $5.00 for S&H (UPS ground, in the 48 contiguous states). At this special low price only one manual is provided. Contact me at any address below for shipping charges outside the US (48 contiguous states) or for additional information. Thanks for your interest. Take care. ** System Requirements ** MIX C Compiler CP/M version: MS/PCDOS version: Z80 CPU PCDOS (2.0 or higher) CP/M 80 (2.0 or higher) 128K memory 55K memory 1 disk drive 2 disk drives or HD MIX Editor CP/M version: MS/PCDOS version: Z80 CPU PCDOS (2.0 or higher) CP/M 80 (2.0 or higher) 192K memory 55K memory 1 disk drive **NOTE: If you would like a pamphlet that describes the many features of the MIX Editor, send an SASE to the address below. -- Ed Grey \*\ Sysop of The Grey Matter BBS & RCP/M 213-971-6260 P.O. Box #2186 \*\ Bitnet: ac959%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm Inglewood, CA 90305 \*\ Internet: ac959@cleveland.freenet.edu USA \*\ v.: 213-759-7406 \*\ Fido: 1:102/752 \*\ GEnie: E.GREY1 ------------------------------ Date: 5 Sep 91 16:21:31 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!dali.cs.montana.edu!milton!sumax!polari!rwing!fnx!del@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Dag Erik Lindberg) Subject: Re: z80MU Message-ID: <1123@fnx.UUCP> In article zon+@andrew.cmu.edu (Zonnie Lee Williamson) writes: >Can someone please E-Mail me where I can get a copy of the sources to the Z80MU >CP/M emulator? Thanks in advance. >Zon Williamson, MacMach Project, CMU >zon@andrew.cmu.edu You can't. It is a common misconception, started by a misdirected magazine writer, that Z80MU is public domain. It is NOT, and the article has caused considerable grief and hard feelings at the company that actually developed Z80MU. Actually, on second thought, I'm sure they would be happy to sell you a source license, for the right price. Here is their address: Computerwise Consulting Services P.O. box 813 McLean, VA 22101 -- del AKA Erik Lindberg uunet!pilchuck!fnx!del Who is John Galt? ------------------------------ Date: 6 Sep 91 14:24:07 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!news.cs.indiana.edu!news.nd.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!descartes.math.purdue.edu!wilker@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Clarence Wilkerson) Subject: Re: z80MU Message-ID: <18128@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Actually version 3.10 of Z80MU is public doamin. This is not the version commonly available from Simtel20 and other outlets, however. Clarence Wilkerson ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #156 ************************************* 8-Sep-91 15:23:52-MDT,9948;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 8 Sep 91 15:15:13 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #157 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910908151514.V91N157@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 8 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 157 Today's Topics: Anyone have a source listing for BIOS w/DTC520 controller?? integrad MIX C & Editor info... QX-10 Hard Disk (Comrex Comfiler) questions RE: software available? Re: Text Editors ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 8 Sep 91 07:47:04 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!qiclab!nosun!techbook!fzsitvay@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Frank Zsitvay) Subject: Anyone have a source listing for BIOS w/DTC520 controller?? Message-ID: <1991Sep8.074704.16455@techbook.com> I'm looking for a sample BIOS source listing for a z80 with a DTC520 controller. I found a bunch of controllers at a great price and am wondering what i'm getting myself into in trying to incorporate some of these into some machines i have. this controller supports 2 hard drives and 4 floppies. It uses a proprietary host interface, but i have all the information needed to build the host adaptor. Z80 opcodes would be preferred, but since beggars can't be choosers, i'll struggle with 8080 opcodes if need be. I've been wanting to play around with new fast Z80s for a while and this controller seems like just the ticket for such a project, since i won't have to worry about building a hard disk interface, just the host adaptor and a little bit of software. -- fzsitvay@techbook.COM - but don't quote me on that.... According to a reputable source, 'glastnost' translated from Russian really means 'lesser grade of barbed wire.' ------------------------------ Date: 6 Sep 91 20:22:10 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!lsuc!canrem![larry.moore%canrem.uucp]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (larry moore) Subject: integrad Message-ID: <1991Sep6.1042.1776@canrem.uucp> Finding myself in need of a couple of good enclosures, I've tried phoning Integrad of Visilia CA. Two weeks ago I got a message that they were having their 'annual vacation shutdown'; tried again yesterday and got no answer at all. Anybody know if they are still alive? | UUCP: lsuc!canrem!Larry.Moore | Canada Remote Systems CP/M ConferenceChairperson | -- Canada Remote Systems. Toronto, Ontario NorthAmeriNet Host ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 91 18:18:35 -0400 From: ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Subject: MIX C & Editor info... Message-ID: <9109072218.AA04930@cwns1.INS.CWRU.Edu> C FEVER catch it! I have copies of a booklet with the above title. It explains all the features of the MIX C compiler and the MIX Editor. If you would like to know more about these bargain priced products, send a stamped, self-addressed evelope to me at the address below. Outside of the US, send $1.00 (refundable with your order) along with your name and address. C FEVER, catch it for CP/M or DOS, without going broke. -- Ed Grey \*\ Sysop of The Grey Matter BBS & RCP/M 213-971-6260 P.O. Box #2186 \*\ Bitnet: ac959%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm Inglewood, CA 90305 \*\ Internet: ac959@cleveland.freenet.edu USA \*\ v.: 213-759-7406 \*\ Fido: 1:102/752 \*\ GEnie: E.GREY1 ------------------------------ Date: 8 Sep 91 02:14:41 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!mtecv2!tamsun!tamuts!jdb8042@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (John Donald Baker) Subject: QX-10 Hard Disk (Comrex Comfiler) questions Message-ID: <3312@tamsun.TAMU.EDU> Howdy! 'gratulate me! 'gratulate me! I just bought an Epson QX-10 with a Comrex CR-1510 ComFiler hard disk!! Unfortunately, the ComFiler flaked out very soon after I got it home. I was wondering if there is any chance of resurrecting it. The man I bought it from was one of those "befuddled users" who just managed to stumble through enough of ValDocs to write letters and never bothered to become proficient with it or the machine. Consequently, the hard disk was not connected when I went to examine the machine nor were any logical drives assigned to HD1 and HD2. I decided to hook the disk up and see what it was all about. After noting the orientation of the connector on the interface card in the QX-10, the hard disk was turned on. A directory of the disk (which I assigned to C: and D: via SETUP) appeared with no hint of trouble. I had brought FBAD v7.0 with me and it declared that there were no bad blocks on either C: or D:. Satisfied with the performance, I paid the man and took my new play-toy home. I must note that I was unable to locate references to any disk-parking software either in the manuals or on any disks I had immediately at hand. Thus, I simply turned the system off (CPU first, then the hard disk--as I _later_ learned is correct). When I set the system up at home, all appeared to be well at first. I got a directory listing of the disk and was satisfied that I had done no serious damage by not parking the heads. I then worked with files on floppies exclusively for about three hours (maintenance and exploration). I then attemped to access the hard disk. Lo, and behold! I was greeted with a 'Not Ready' error. A retry resulted in a 'R/W' error and after a few 'Continue' selections, I got only a partial directory listing with a few more 'R/W' errors (with Bad Sector reports). As I had chosen a poor orientation for the drive which blocked the outflow air vents, I assumed that thermal drift (expansion of the disk causing head/ track mis-alignment) had occured thus accounting for the errors. I shut the system down (this time parking the heads) and let it cool off over night. I relocated the drive the next morning and started it up. No dice! The drive behaved as erratically as it had the night before. As I worked with it, it got progressively worse right before my eyes until I got nothing but error messages ('R/W' errors). I decided that there was nothing left but to reformat the drive. (I had the original floppies for anything of consequence to me.) The manual says that formating the 10MB disk would take aboout 25 minutes. It sat there for 3 hours!! It very slowly counted off the cylinders and heads until it logged "Cyl 305 Head 3" at which point the program declared: "Drive Format Failure--Contact your dealer for service" Subsequent access to the disk results in 'R/W' errors on every sectory of cylinder 0, head 0. I ran the other diagnostic software that was supplied and the disk passes a random seek test and the controller passes its diagnostic tests. Examination of the system revealed that the interface card in the CPU appears to just bring the expansion buss out to the back of the machine. From there, a 40-pin ribbon cable runs through the hard disk enclosure and plugs into a Western Digital 1002 Hard Disk Controller. The actual disk mechanism is a 5.25" Full-height MFM drive by Computer Memories, Inc., model CM5412. Configuration is 306 Cylinders, 4 Heads. I suspect that this is analogous to a Seagate ST-412. The configuration is also the same as the IBM PC-AT Type 1 drive. Could anyone help me test the drive mechanism or any other part of the system for "low cost" (knowwhutahmean?). Are there any drives matching the above configuration available (new or used)? If a larger disk will replace it, is there a way to use the full capacity? I would also appreciate some education on hard disk systems as implemented on CP/M machines as I have never used a hard disk on any CP/M machine. (And it may be some time before I do.) Thanks. John D. Baker ->An Apple ZCPR3 nut// and new Epson QX-10 owner. ->I can live with floppies, but the HD would really be nice. John D. Baker ->An Apple 3.5", 5.25", 8" PCPI Applicard ZCPR3 nut// Internet: JDB8042@{tamuts|rigel|sigma|summa|zeus|venus}.tamu.edu BBSs: JOHN BAKER on Z-Node #45 [(713) 937-8886], The Vector Board [(716) 544-1863], The Black Box (FIDO 1:106/601) [(713) 480-2686] Karnage: "Fire at will!" Wil (desperately dodging a hail of automatic weapons fire): "AAAAIYEEEE!!" Karnage: "No, no. Do not fire at Wil, he is my Second Mate. FIRE AT THE SEA-DUCK!!" ------------------------------ Date: 6 Sep 91 16:59:42 GMT From: bobsbox!gnat!ahm@rutgers.edu (Andreas Meyer) Subject: RE: software available? Message-ID: <8P4u81w164w@gnat.rent.com> sage@LL.MIT.EDU (Jay Sage) writes: > The Computer Journal > Chris McEwen > gnat!cmcewen@nsscmail.att.com While that e-mail address does work, a more succinct address is: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com Andreas Meyer, N2FYE ahm@gnat.rent.com {backbone}!att!nsscmail!gnat!ahm ------------------------------ Date: 7 Sep 91 06:20:25 GMT From: netcomsv!dmitry@apple.com (Dmitry Grinauz) Subject: Re: Text Editors Message-ID: <1991Sep07.062025.23172@netcom.COM> Perfect writer, although a bit slow, does good emacs emulation, provides the ability to display multiple windows and supports large files via disk swapping. It also has a very powerful text formatting language. Unfortunately, the company that made it went out of business years ago, and I do not know what happened to either the rights to sell or the source. Dmitry. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #157 ************************************* 9-Sep-91 13:23:32-MDT,10123;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 9 Sep 91 13:15:13 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #158 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910909131516.V91N158@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 9 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 158 Today's Topics: Cromemco problems.... help? Epson PX-8 microemacs My new(!) QX-10 just died! :-( QTERM Type patch to Rainbow 100? Re: software available? the computer jour ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 9 Sep 91 17:44:07 GMT From: swrinde!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!lynx!triton.unm.edu!techs@gatech.edu (Erik Fichtner) Subject: Cromemco problems.... help? Message-ID: This last saturday afternoon I acquired a Cromemco Z-2H computer. it's an s100 bus system, with a dual Z80/68000 processor board among other nice things. anyways, the guy I got it from said it just needed the operating system. a friend of mine has copies of the Cromix operating system (Cromemco Unix) and helped install it... while installing the operating system on the hard disk, the disk froze up and died. in the process of fixing it, a few hardware items got zapped anyways.... does anyone have a Cromemco DPU or XPU processor board and/or a 16FDC or 64FDC board that they want to sell/donate/trade? also other S100 hardware that runs with the 32-bit 68000 processor would be nice... ------------------------------ Date: 9 Sep 91 16:45:44 GMT From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!wdlee@gatech.edu (david lee) Subject: Epson PX-8 Message-ID: <56855@ut-emx.uucp> Netfolks, I am looking to buy another Epson Geneva PX-8 laptop. Do you know of one for sale? Thanks David@moe.ece.utexas.edu or wdlee@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ------------------------------ Date: 8 Sep 91 19:47:56 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!lsuc!canrem![larry.moore%canrem.uucp]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (larry moore) Subject: microemacs Message-ID: <1991Sep8.1042.1785@canrem.uucp> In article <191@ssiny.UUCP>, Ralph Betza writes: >I ported MicroEmacs to CP/M. When I finished, there were no >living CP/M BBSes to post it to.... Yea, know what you mean. There's only a few hundred CP/M BBS's left. Ian Cottrell of the Informatics Services division of the Energy, Mines and Resources Department, Ottawa maintains a monthly list of those currently running. I could email you a copy of this month's if you can't reach the the ftp site where the list is stored (see previous message by Ian). . >Now, the big question: where could I post this? >does anyone want to see it? . Yes! I want to see this!!! UUMail it to me in the body of one or more messages, (lsuc!canrem!larry.moore) and I'll post it to the nonunix BBS's that I visit. . >And, how do I post this source? I don't have a shar-wrapping >utility, just where is it on uunet and where do I get it? A CP/M sharwrapping program? Think shar15.lbr is on simtel20, and it will do if you just want to post ascii. you'll probably also want the uuencode and uudecode pair from simtel20 to post or mail object and compressed files. | UUCP: lsuc!canrem!Larry.Moore | Canada Remote Systems CP/M ConferenceChairperson | -- Canada Remote Systems. Toronto, Ontario NorthAmeriNet Host ------------------------------ Date: 8 Sep 91 22:38:06 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!mtecv2!tamsun!tamuts!jdb8042@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (John Donald Baker) Subject: My new(!) QX-10 just died! :-( Message-ID: <3324@tamsun.TAMU.EDU> The Subject: says it all. The QX-10 I just recently acquired has "winked out". Situation: I was online to tamuts.tamu.edu and reading alt.folklore.computers (I had been on a few hours) when I heard my phone make the little "dink" noise it makes whenever a phone is taken off-hook or replaced on-hook (a cheap UniSonic from Walmart). I though that my room-mate had picked up the phone (again) knock- ing me off-line. But, when I looked at my screen, there was no garbage as I had expected. In fact, the screen held the unblem- ished image of the last message I had read. I typed a few times to go on to the next message. Then I typed and 'q' and lot of other stuff and nothing was happening. I looked at my modem and noticed that nothing was being sent and then that I was, in fact, on-hook. I should have seen characters coming back at me. I tried of exit my comm program (ZMP 1.5) with no success. I had locked the machine before so I fugured it would be a simple matter of re-booting. the sequence (for those who know the Valdocs Document Processor keyboard) did nothing. Well, let's try the hardware RESET button under the ledge of the case. NOTHING!! I pressed, released, then held for a while and released and absolutely nothing happened. So I decided to turn it off and then on againn (power cycling as I've heard it called). Again nothing. No 'INSERT DISKETTE' message, no disk drive homing, no flashing keyboard lights. The only thing that appeared to work was the cooling fan. The power supply seemed to be humming a a little louder than usual. I opened it to see if there was any obvoious damage that would indicate the fault. I could see no gross damage. (I looked at and removed and examined all circuit boards.) everything looks OK on the outside. Can anyone out there help me? Any suggestions as to what could have failed and caused this. Any clue as to the nature of this failure. Also any suggestions as to where I might obtain service for this machine if the fix is not simply a chip or other componet replacement. I have neither the time, tools or experi- ence to tackle a complicated bit of repair (but I have the enthusiasm). I had no indication that the machine might fail when I bought it. I has operated just fine for the two weeks that I have had it. (Just like I thought the Hard Disk was OK.) Thanks for the help. Calling all QX-10 gurus!!! John D. Baker ->An Apple 3.5", 5.25", 8" PCPI Applicard ZCPR3 nut// Internet: JDB8042@{tamuts|rigel|sigma|summa|zeus|venus}.tamu.edu BBSs: JOHN BAKER on Z-Node #45 [(713) 937-8886], The Vector Board [(716) 544-1863], The Black Box (FIDO 1:106/601) [(713) 480-2686] Karnage: "Fire at will!" Wil (desperately dodging a hail of automatic weapons fire): "AAAAIYEEEE!!" Karnage: "No, no. Do not fire at Wil, he is my Second Mate. FIRE AT THE SEA-DUCK!!" ------------------------------ Date: 9 Sep 91 02:43:33 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!linus!linus!mwunix!jblue@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Jason D. Blue) Subject: QTERM Type patch to Rainbow 100? Message-ID: Any one knows where I can locate a QTERM type patch for the DEC Rainbow 100? I am trying to get cpm UUCP running on it. Thanks, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason D Blue _ |_ __ '' _ ____ _ _ '' _ _ ___ _ __ User Support Center Specialist | | | | | | \| | | | | | | The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA | / __|_ | | __\ | | |_/ /| jblue@mwunix.mitre.org | ------------------------------ Date: 9 Sep 91 00:33:37 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!n8emr!uncle!gwr@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Greg W. Ratcliff) Subject: Re: software available? Message-ID: <1991Sep9.003337.12098@uncle.uucp> I have a copy of c80 (original) with all docs, original 8" disks for $50.00 I'll pay shipping. Compatible with m80/l80... includes FULL math package. Gregory W. Ratclf (614)431-0694 days (614)487-0694 eves (till midnight) Columbus, Ohio ------------------------------ Date: 8 Sep 91 19:47:55 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!lsuc!canrem![larry.moore%canrem.uucp]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (larry moore) Subject: the computer jour Message-ID: <1991Sep8.1042.1779@canrem.uucp> in Message-ID: <1991Sep3.201938.3276@spool.cs.wisc.edu>, Newsgroup: comp.os.cpm, Joe Burger says: Several netters have mentioned _The Computer Journal_ as a periodical that resembles the Bytes and Dr. Dobbs of the "golden age", before ibm-pc clones became 99% of the computer systems (and other maladies). I'd like to subscribe, or review an issue or two, but have not been able to find a copy in the book stores and periodical shops. Could someone mail me the the phone number of the magazine's subscription desk, and the price of a year's subscription? thanks Joe ------- The address of The Computer Journal is The Computer Journal P. O. Box 12, S. Plainsfield, NJ 07080-0012 Phone (908) 755-6186 The Subscription rate is 18 for 6 issues (one year) or 32 for 12 issues (two years). There is an offer that anyone wanting to have a look can get a complimentary copy - if you like it, subscribe and if not, return it. Those who already have a subscription can have it extended by an issue for each new person seconded who buys a subscription. | UUCP: lsuc!canrem!Larry.Moore | Canada Remote Systems CP/M ConferenceChairperson | -- Canada Remote Systems. Toronto, Ontario NorthAmeriNet Host ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #158 ************************************* 11-Sep-91 02:41:19-MDT,5910;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 11-Sep-91 02:34:35 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 91 02:34:34 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #159 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910911023435.V91N159@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 11 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 159 Today's Topics: Com port access on Zenith H8 Epson PX-8 Kaypro II owner (Texas) wants help LSH Re: QX-10 Hard Disk (Comrex Comfiler) questions Re: wuarchive.wustl.edu is down ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 9 Sep 91 22:44:54 GMT From: agate!bionet!ucselx!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!ptimtc!nntp-server.caltech.edu!hss!pjb@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Paul Brewer) Subject: Com port access on Zenith H8 Message-ID: I have been given a Heath/Zenith H8 (8080 based) with some software (kermit, basic, fortran, maybe C but I haven't found it yet). I am interested in accessing the com port in this system programmitically. Is there anything like the IBM BIOS calls that read and write one char to the com port like there are on DOS systems?? I have manuals for BASIC, and FORTRAN, and they do not mention anything about opening the COM port as a file. Attempting to do this (the Com port has a name something with a colon) gave a bad disk file name error, so I assume that open is disk-oriented only. Any ideas? I can access the com port through kermit, but obviously this isn't all i'm after here. Paul Brewer ------------------------------ Date: 9 Sep 91 21:55:06 GMT From: waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!cc-server4.massey.ac.nz!P.B.Halverson@decwrl.dec.com (P.B. Halverson) Subject: Epson PX-8 Message-ID: <1991Sep9.215506.21897@massey.ac.nz> I have a working PX-8 laptop, a non-working PF-10 floppy drive, and a fair quantity of DOS2CPM software. I would love to sell it all. Only problem is that I'm currently living in New Zealand! Cheers, P.B. Halverson Massey University ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 91 01:06:24 GMT From: csus.edu!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!ewen@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ewen McNeill) Subject: Kaypro II owner (Texas) wants help Message-ID: <1991Sep11.010624.10893@actrix.gen.nz> The local branch of FOG, in Wellington, NEW ZEALAND, received a letter from a person in Houston, Texas, USA, asking for assistance with software/support for a Kaypro II. This person, acquired a Kaypro II from a flea market, after being given the impression it was IBM compatable. After much searching, he found a boot disk and/or some software for it (it does _something_ now). However, he is searching for support, and other programs to run on his Kaypro. Because the of the distance between us, in New Zealand, and Texas it would be difficult for us to provide support. If there is someone nearer to this person (at least in the US!) who has knowledge of the Kaypro II and is willing to help out, please Email me. I will pass on the name/address I have. Thank you for your attention; we return you to the regular broadcast :-) -- Ewen McNeill, ewen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ Date: 10 Sep 91 03:19:02 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!ea.ecn.purdue.edu!wieland@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Jeffrey J Wieland) Subject: LSH Message-ID: <1991Sep10.031902.14211@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> I have been trying to locate LSH (history shell for ZCPR 3.4) on Simtel20 with no luck. Does anyone know if it is there? -- Jeff Wieland wieland@acn.purdue.edu ------------------------------ Date: 9 Sep 91 10:02:13 GMT From: bobsbox!gnat!cmcewen@rutgers.edu (Chris McEwen) Subject: Re: QX-10 Hard Disk (Comrex Comfiler) questions Message-ID: jdb8042@tamuts.tamu.edu (John Donald Baker) writes: > Howdy! 'gratulate me! 'gratulate me! > > I just bought an Epson QX-10 with a Comrex CR-1510 ComFiler hard disk!! > Unfortunately, the ComFiler flaked out very soon after I got it home. I > was wondering if there is any chance of resurrecting it. John, hopefully someone on the net has just the experience to help you. But if that turns out not to be the case, then let me point you to the Epson group in Washington DC. ECCO runs their own bbs at 703-971-5757. Chris McEwen Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal Editor, TCJ uucp: ..!att!nsscmail!gnat!cmcewen | PO Box 12 GEnie: c.mcewen -or- TCJ$ | S Plainfield NJ 07080 | (908) 755-6186 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 91 03:00:07 -0400 From: w8sdz@rigel.acs.oakland.edu (Keith Petersen) Subject: Re: wuarchive.wustl.edu is down Message-ID: <9109110700.AA03630@rigel.acs.oakland.edu> heal@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Loren Heal) writes: >Wuarchive is indeed down. It's apparently processor a board problem. >No word on when it will be up; perhaps someone will post here when it is. While wuarchive.wustl.edu is down you may access the SIMTEL20 mirrored files on oak.oakland.edu [141.210.10.117]. Anonymous FTP is available but no NFS mounts. Keith -- Keith Petersen Maintainer of the MSDOS, MISC and CP/M archives at SIMTEL20 [192.88.110.20] Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil or w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #159 ************************************* 13-Sep-91 05:22:00-MDT,9014;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 91 05:15:07 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #160 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910913051508.V91N160@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 13 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 160 Today's Topics: CP/M to MS-DOS ascii file converter needed H-8 COM PORT MACHINE READABLE FORM OF TECHNICAL DOCUMENTATION ON ZYLOG Z80 New CP411SRC.ARK uploaded to SIMTEL20 Re: MACHINE READABLE FORM OF TECHNICAL DOCUMENTATION ON ZYLOG Z80 Re: text editors: Systems Group TED text editor ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 12 Sep 91 14:56:12 GMT From: yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!mips!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!cs.columbia.edu!agw@yale-bulldog.arpa (Art Werschulz) Subject: CP/M to MS-DOS ascii file converter needed Message-ID: Hello. One of my students has an old CP/M machine and a new MS-DOS machine (I don't have the particulars). He also has a bunch of ASCII files on CP/M disks that he would like to be able to read on his MS-DOS box. Does anybody out there know of any CP/M to MS-DOS ascii file conversion programs he can use? Please mail me your responses, as I don't read this newsgroup. Thanks. -- Art Werschulz InterNet: agw@cs.columbia.edu ATTnet: Columbia University (212) 854-8642 854-2736 Fordham University (212) 636-6325 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 91 00:51 CDT From: Subject: H-8 COM PORT In reference to the question about the H-8 COM port, you did not state whether the machine was running under HDOS or CP/M You also did not (assuming that it is CP/M) mention what version of dos you are running. If you are using CP/M 2.0 or up the configur program should allow you to set up port 330Q for the modem you should access it via device UR1: . This is as per my book on Heath/Zenith CP/M version 2.2.xx. Configur is rather easy to follow through the menus, that is as easy as CP/M ever is. Ed eb09187@swt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1991 17:02:57 -0700 From: buhrow@cats.UCSC.EDU (Brian Buhrow) Subject: MACHINE READABLE FORM OF TECHNICAL DOCUMENTATION ON ZYLOG Z80 Message-ID: <9109120002.AA14481@am.ucsc.edu> I am looking for machine readable forms of documentation which describe the Zylog Z80 microprocessor from the programming point of view. I am interested in its registers, its instruction set, how much memory it can address how that addressing works, it's i/o capabilities, etc. Please respond by mailing to: buhrow@cats and telling me or sending me such information. -thanks -Brian Buhrow ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Sep 91 12:09:42 EDT From: Mike Freeman Subject: New CP411SRC.ARK uploaded to SIMTEL20 Summary: Reposted by Keith Petersen Message-ID: I have discovered that the files CPSCOM.ASM, CPSPK2.ASM, CPSREM.ASM and CPSUTL.ASM in the file PD2:CP411SRC.ARK are corrupt; repeat-prefixing negotiations appear to have misfired when I transferred those files to my archiving system. There are also a couple of explanatory files missing from CP411SRC.ARK. Accordingly, I have uploaded to Simtel20 a corrected copy of CP411SRC.ARK. Cheers! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Freeman, K7UIJ | Internet: freeman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu 301 N.E. 107th Street | or K7UIJ@pacifier.rain.com Vancouver, WA 98685 USA | GEnie: M.FREEMAN11 Telephone (206)574-8221 | Be careful what you wish -- you might | get it! ------------------------------ Date: 13 Sep 91 05:18:13 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!metro!seagoon.newcastle.edu.au!jupiter.newcastle.edu.au!c9037544@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (David M Williams) Subject: Re: MACHINE READABLE FORM OF TECHNICAL DOCUMENTATION ON ZYLOG Z80 Message-ID: buhrow@CATS.UCSC.EDU (Brian Buhrow) writes: > I am looking for machine readable forms of documentation which >describe the Zylog Z80 microprocessor from the programming point of view. > I am interested in its registers, its instruction set, how much memory it >can address how that addressing works, it's i/o capabilities, etc. > Please respond by mailing to: buhrow@cats >and telling me or sending me such information. I would also like such information. Thanks! David Williams -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | David Williams | University of Newcastle, Australia | | c9037544@cc.newcastle.edu.au | Department of Computer Science | | c9037544@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au | | ------------------------------ Date: 7 Sep 91 17:54:47 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!bu.edu!m2c!jjmhome!mv!mem@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Mark E. Mallett) Subject: Re: text editors: Message-ID: <602@mv.MV.COM> In article <191@ssiny.UUCP> gnohmon@ssiny.UUCP (Ralph Betza) writes: >Good points: a REAL EDITOR that works under CP/M!!!!! >In one-window mode, it runs as fast as you can type. >Useful features added: go-to-next-sequential-buffer, >go-to-first-Word, and others... ( don't remember all the details ). Anyone desperate for a "real editor," old enough to remember TECO, and crazy enough to remember it fondly, can search out and obtain TED. TED is an editor patterned after old TEC124 on TOPS-10, with a bunch of TECO-11 things thrown in, and some completely new things as well. I wrote it about 13 years ago, and long ago uploaded it, binaries and sources and documentation, to various bulletin board systems. Good luck! -mm- -- Mark E. Mallett MV Communications, Inc./ PO Box 4963/ Manchester NH/ 03108 Bus. Phone: 603 429 2223 Home: 603 424 8129 BIX: mmallett uucp: mem@zinn.MV.COM ( ...{decvax|elrond|harvard}!zinn!mem ) Looking for news and mail in southern NH / northern MA? Try MV! ------------------------------ Date: 12 Sep 91 00:50:30 GMT From: csus.edu!csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Systems Group Message-ID: I picked up a Systems Group box last Thursday; a Systems Group System 2800; and it's got more software than I can handle (unless of course I wanted to become a CPA :-) ). Just wondering, does anyone have manuals for the hardware? I probably have enough in the form of BIOS source code and perhaps specsheets for the Z80CTC and the Z80DART, but I wouldn't mind having the books. Also, anyone have a communications driver? Ian Justman | ...!{ames|apple|sun}!pacbell_ 6612 Whitsett Drive | ...!ucbvax!ucdavis!csusac____|-!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj North Highlands, CA 95660| "If you can't believe what you read in the comics, (916) 344-5360 | what CAN you believe?" -- Bullwinkle J. Moose ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 91 22:08:29 GMT From: agate!spool.mu.edu!samsung!dali.cs.montana.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!ephillip%magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Earl W Phillips) Subject: TED text editor Message-ID: To the fellow who posted on TED, the text editor: (sorry, I lost your email address). You mentioned that you are the editor of TED. I found TED on a televideo I'm trying to get working again, and would REALLY like to know how to use it, as it's the only editor on the machine right now! Is there any documentation still available, or would you provide those of us ignorant of it with a simple explanation? Thanx in advance for any help..... ***************************************************************** * | ====@==== ///////// * * ephillip@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu| ``________// * * | `------' * * -JR- | Space;........the final * * | frontier............... * ***************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #160 ************************************* 15-Sep-91 18:54:50-MDT,7475;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 15-Sep-91 18:38:12 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 15 Sep 91 18:38:11 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #161 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910915183812.V91N161@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 15 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 161 Today's Topics: Any organizer? Need Boot Disk for Sanyo MBC-1200 Re: Cromemco problems.... help? Re: Disk alignment help Re: the computer jour Televidio TS-800a TRANSF18.ARK uploaded to SIMTEL20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Sep 91 23:32:39 IST From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" Subject: Any organizer? I may have performed poorly, but I failed to discover any organizer program (I mean, calendar, schedules, things to do) under CP/M in the SIMTEL stuff. Since I unfortunately have only one CP/M engine at home, none in office, I would greatly appreciate any such CP/M organizer coming with its source code, to be able to use the same file structure on the same organizer on that horrible PC-clone which plagues my office. Thanks - JJG ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 91 21:48:20 GMT From: usenet@cs.orst.edu (Gene Head) Subject: Need Boot Disk for Sanyo MBC-1200 Message-ID: <1991Sep15.214820.1192@usenet@CS.ORST.EDU> I need a bootable system disk for a Sanyo MBC-1200. It is a 5-1/4 inch disk but I have no idea as to it's density or format. Maybe there is some old CP/M'er out there who might have such a disk. The computer is quite old. I found it in a dumpster and brought it home for the kids. All I need (I hope) is a bootable disk. Contact: Gene Head 0003737493@mcimail.com ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 91 13:41:27 GMT From: bobsbox!gnat!cmcewen@rutgers.edu (Chris McEwen) Subject: Re: Cromemco problems.... help? Message-ID: techs@triton.unm.edu (Erik Fichtner) writes: > does anyone have a Cromemco DPU or XPU processor board and/or a 16FDC or > 64FDC board that they want to sell/donate/trade? also other S100 hardware > that runs with the 32-bit 68000 processor would be nice... You might want to contact Herb Johnson at 1519 Mt. Everett Street, Colorado Springs, Colorado 80909. I understand that he is commercially involved in buying and selling S-100 boards and so should probably have what you want. If he doesn't, he can get it. _______________________________________________________________________ Chris McEwen Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal Editor, TCJ uucp: ..!att!nsscmail!gnat!cmcewen | PO Box 12 GEnie: c.mcewen -or- TCJ$ | S Plainfield NJ 07080 The Spirit of the Individual Made This Industry | (908) 755-6186 ------------------------------ Date: 14 Sep 91 15:48:48 GMT From: hpcc05!hpdmd48!ritchie@hplabs.hpl.hp.com (David Ritchie) Subject: Re: Disk alignment help Message-ID: <16870003@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com> Jensen Tools (I think in Tempe, AZ) is a large electronics tool company that used to carry these. They are about $50 a pop, so be forwarned. Sorry that I don't have a better address. You might also try calling Dysan (I think they have an 800 number, so try directory assistance), and ordering from them directly. -- Dave Ritchie ritchie@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com ------------------------------ Date: 14 Sep 91 23:49:58 GMT From: bobsbox!gnat!cmcewen@rutgers.edu (Chris McEwen) Subject: Re: the computer jour Message-ID: larry.moore@canrem.uucp (larry moore) answered a query regarding The Computer Journal (TCJ) wherein a reader asked how to subscribe: > The Computer Journal > P. O. Box 12, > S. Plainsfield, NJ 07080-0012 > Phone (908) 755-6186 > The Subscription rate is 18 for 6 issues (one year) or 32 for 12 > issues (two years). There is an offer that anyone wanting to have > a look can get a complimentary copy - if you like it, subscribe > and if not, return it. Those who already have a subscription can > have it extended by an issue for each new person seconded who buys > a subscription. > > | UUCP: lsuc!canrem!Larry.Moore > | Canada Remote Systems CP/M ConferenceChairperson > | > -- > Canada Remote Systems. Toronto, Ontario > NorthAmeriNet Host I must have missed the earlier article. As the publisher of the journal in question, perhaps I can give the information previously requested. Larry Moore is right about the subscription costs within the US. For "Outside-US" subscriptions, the cost is $24/1 year, $44/2 years by surface or $38/1 year, $72/2 years by airmail. Larry is "Not Quite Right" on the complimentary issue. Yes, anyone who sends name and address, either by email, snail mail, telephone call or carrier pigeon, and requests a "trial subscription" will be given a copy. If you like TCJ, then just pay the invoice that will come. But you DO NOT HAVE TO RETURN THE COPY if you don't like it! Just pass it on to someone who might, and return the invoice to me, marked "Cancelled." Thanks, Larry, for answering the inquiry. I appreciate your thoughfulness. Chris McEwen Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal Editor, TCJ uucp: ..!att!nsscmail!gnat!cmcewen | PO Box 12 GEnie: c.mcewen -or- TCJ$ | S Plainfield NJ 07080 | (908) 755-6186 ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 91 00:25:02 GMT From: pyrnj!pyrite!bill@rutgers.edu (Bill Pechter) Subject: Televidio TS-800a Message-ID: <646@pyrite.nj.pyramid.com> Wanted: dip switches on a TS800 or is it T800 Televideo terminal. Picked up two to use on my Unix box - but they still think they're hooked to the Televidio CP/M or MP/M system. I know they can be used as dumb ttys. Any help would be appreciated. Please email. I'll summarize to the net. -- -m------- Bill Pechter | The postmaster always pings twice. ---mmm----- Pyramid Technology | bill@pyrite.nj.pyramid.com -----mmmmm--- 10 Woodbridge Center Drive | pyramid!pyrite!bill -------mmmmmmm- Woodbridge, NJ. 07095 |Tel:908-602-6308 Fax:908-750-3908 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Sep 91 14:00:46 MET DST From: Guenter Radestock Subject: TRANSF18.ARK uploaded to SIMTEL20 Summary: Reposted by Keith Petersen Message-ID: I have uploaded pd2:TRANF18.ARK to SIMTEL20. It is a system independant version of the TRANSFER utility, a program to transfer files between CPM and DOS (both directions). Transfer1.8 doesn't replace version 1.2 in the archives allthough it derived from the same original program. TRANSFER 1.8 is supposed to be compatible with CPM 2.2 and CPM+. Documentation is included in the archive. Thank you, - Guenter (email: radest@ira.uka.de ; IRC: gr) ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #161 ************************************* 16-Sep-91 10:20:37-MDT,10305;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 91 10:15:10 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #162 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910916101511.V91N162@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 16 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 162 Today's Topics: Do you have a TI 99/4a? KAYPRO II OWNER (TEXAS) WANTS HELP Re: Any organizer? Re: Epson PX-8 Re: KAYPRO II OWNER (TEXAS) WANTS HELP Re: M80 & L80 Re: OFFLINE MAILER (WAS: CP/M SCREENPLAY FO Re: SMALL EDITOR Re: TED text editor SOME FILES TO HELP YOU ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 16 Sep 91 03:08:28 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!grumpy.EEAP.CWRU.Edu!gilpin@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (gilpin) Subject: Do you have a TI 99/4a? Message-ID: <1991Sep16.030828.27777@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> Hello. Do you have a TI 99/4a collecting dust in your closet? If you do then maybe you should get it out. A lot of things have changed (improved) in the last few years. We now have Hard Drive controllers, fifth generation video processors (Many graphic viewing formats, RLE,GIF etc) and Ram disks. Do you remember how slow your TI was (3.3 MHz I beleive) well now we even have an accelerator that fits inside of your console and replaces the CPU with a chip running currently at 16 MHZ. The TMS9900 chip is basically replaced by a TMS99105. The 99105 has a potential for 24 Mhz. If you are interested and want more info about the TI then please respond via email to gilpin@snowhite.EEAP.CWRU.Edu or post to the comp.sys.ti on the usenet. Have a nice day. . ------------------------------ Date: 12 Sep 91 18:01:38 GMT From: csus.edu!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rphroy!cfctech!teemc!ka3ovk!nstar!towers!mgcind!sfbhq!Fred_Mail@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Brice Fleckenstein) Subject: KAYPRO II OWNER (TEXAS) WANTS HELP Message-ID: <684715147.0@sfbhq.Fidonet.Org> Tell your Texas Kaypro II aquaintance that they should pick up this confrence (there SHOULD be a Public Access UseNet site in Texas somewhere, if not in Houston itself) and the FidoNet "CPMTECH" confrence (I'll dig up the Houston segment of the FidoNet Nodelist if they can't find it) - seem to be the best sources of CP/M support going any more.... * Origin: Brice's Library TBBS - Indianapolis IN (317) 353-0410 (1:231/190) ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 91 23:23:10 GMT From: bobsbox!gnat!cmcewen@rutgers.edu (Chris McEwen) Subject: Re: Any organizer? Message-ID: PHR00JG%TECHNION@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL ("Jacques J. Goldberg") writes: > I would greatly appreciate any such CP/M organizer coming with its source > code, to be able to use the same file structure on the same organizer > on that horrible PC-clone which plagues my office. Since we don't know what organizer you are using in the office, finding one that duplicates it will present a bit of a problem. I know of one fairly extensive organizer in CP/M called HANDY. I have it on my bbs's CPM: (B0:) directory in a file named HANDY.LBR. Unfortunately, it does not include source code. Sorry, no ftp here -- you'll have to come and get it at (908) 754-9067. Hope that helps. _______________________________________________________________________ Chris McEwen Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal Editor, TCJ uucp: ..!att!nsscmail!gnat!cmcewen | PO Box 12 GEnie: c.mcewen -or- TCJ$ | S Plainfield NJ 07080 The Spirit of the Individual Made This Industry | (908) 755-6186 ------------------------------ Date: 16 Sep 91 06:26:01 GMT From: netcomsv!dmitry@apple.com (Dmitry Grinauz) Subject: Re: Epson PX-8 Message-ID: <1991Sep16.062601.10690@netcom.COM> In article <56855@ut-emx.uucp>, wdlee@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (david lee) writes: > Netfolks, > I am looking to buy another Epson Geneva PX-8 laptop. Do you know > of one for sale? > Thanks > David@moe.ece.utexas.edu > or > wdlee@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu > > > I have tried e-mail, but looks like it bounced, so I am posting this to the newsgroup. I've got a Geneva PX-8 with the standard software package (wordstar, etc), 120k ramdisk wedge and stationary (non-portable) dual 5 1/4 inch disk drive module for it. Everything is in working condition, and I've got original packaging for everything. Battery in it is ok also. I have barely used it ever since I got it about 1.5 years ago, 'cause I could not find a file transfer program for it to work with my other systems. I've heard of generic version of filink, but could not obtain it anywhere. So, it just have been sitting on the shelf. If you are interested, let me know how much you can offer for all the stuff. I would rather get rid of the whole thing. Dmitry. -- (**************************************************************************) One aspiring artist to another: "I can't stand this job any more. It is too much pressure! I am going to quit and go back to NASA!" -- from broadway play Dmitry Gringauz dmitry@netcom.com (**************************************************************************) ------------------------------ Date: 16 Sep 91 15:22:25 GMT From: snorkelwacker.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!convex!mascio@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (John R.S. Mascio) Subject: Re: KAYPRO II OWNER (TEXAS) WANTS HELP Message-ID: <1991Sep16.152225.22355@convex.com> I missed the original posting, but I have a Kaypro 4 and may be able to help. John R.S. Mascio 214/340-2398 (home w/ ans mach) -- John Raymond Stone Mascio (214) 497-4800 _ mascio@convex.com triad!mascio _|_|_) mascio@mcs.kent.edu mascio@triad.cirr.com (_|_| ------------------------------ Date: 3 Sep 91 23:30:00 GMT From: agate!spool.mu.edu!caen!rphroy!cfctech!teemc!ka3ovk!nstar!towers!mgcind!sfbhq!Fred_Mail@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Brice Fleckenstein) Subject: Re: M80 & L80 Message-ID: <684625139.41@sfbhq.Fidonet.Org> cref80 sounds like a variable cross-referance program for a Z80 assembler of some sort. LIB should be a .LIB file creator/dissolver or possibly a high-level-language-compiler library manager. * Origin: Brice's Library TBBS - Indianapolis IN (317) 353-0410 (1:231/190) ------------------------------ Date: 3 Sep 91 23:31:56 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rphroy!cfctech!teemc!ka3ovk!nstar!towers!mgcind!sfbhq!Fred_Mail@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Brice Fleckenstein) Subject: Re: OFFLINE MAILER (WAS: CP/M SCREENPLAY FO Message-ID: <684625139.42@sfbhq.Fidonet.Org> Does CRRR0110 work with .QWK mail packets? That DOES seem to be becomming the standard of late - and I don't have ANY idea what type of packets XRS generates, as there is no XRS version for TBBS.... * Origin: Brice's Library TBBS - Indianapolis IN (317) 353-0410 (1:231/190) ------------------------------ Date: 6 Sep 91 21:50:40 GMT From: agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!caen!rphroy!cfctech!teemc!ka3ovk!nstar!towers!mgcind!sfbhq!Fred_Mail@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Brice Fleckenstein) Subject: Re: SMALL EDITOR Message-ID: <684625139.44@sfbhq.Fidonet.Org> I don't know how compatable the versions are, but I have the docs for the DOS version of VDE here (BBS is DOWN 11AM-7PM Tues-Sat during shop hours).... * Origin: Brice's Library TBBS - Indianapolis IN (317) 353-0410 (1:231/190) ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 91 06:40:57 GMT From: unixhub!ditka!mv!mem@lll-winken.llnl.gov (Mark E. Mallett) Subject: Re: TED text editor Message-ID: <604@mv.MV.COM> In article ephillip@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Earl W Phillips) writes: > >To the fellow who posted on TED, the text editor: (sorry, I >lost your email address). You mentioned that you are the >editor of TED. I found TED on a televideo I'm trying to get >working again, and would REALLY like to know how to use it, >as it's the only editor on the machine right now! Is there >any documentation still available, or would you provide those >of us ignorant of it with a simple explanation? Thanx in >advance for any help..... I think that there were later editors also called TED, so you may not have the one that I wrote. At any rate, I have a document that I wrote for it; it doesn't exactly match the distributed version, since somebody else actually wrote a better document for it later, and that was used instead. (I don't have access to that other document.) A test to find out if what you have is the TED that I wrote: Run the program (type TED) You'll get a single-character prompt (an asterisk or a pound sign, something like that, depending on the version). type ex$$ where the '$' are ESCAPE keys (they echo as '$'). This will exit the editor. If this isn't what you get, then you probably don't have my editor. If this is what you get, then I can send you the document if you'd like. -mm- -- Mark E. Mallett MV Communications, Inc./ PO Box 4963/ Manchester NH/ 03108 Bus. Phone: 603 429 2223 Home: 603 424 8129 BIX: mmallett uucp: mem@mv.MV.COM ( ...{decvax|elrond|harvard}!mv!mem ) Looking for news and mail in southern NH / northern MA? Try MV! ------------------------------ Date: 4 Sep 91 15:59:46 GMT From: agate!spool.mu.edu!caen!rphroy!cfctech!teemc!ka3ovk!nstar!towers!mgcind!sfbhq!Fred_Mail@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Brice Fleckenstein) Subject: SOME FILES TO HELP YOU Message-ID: <684625139.43@sfbhq.Fidonet.Org> Mex also has C128 overlays available.... * Origin: Brice's Library TBBS - Indianapolis IN (317) 353-0410 (1:231/190) ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #162 ************************************* 17-Sep-91 16:04:56-MDT,11400;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 17-Sep-91 15:52:23 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 15:52:21 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #163 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910917155223.V91N163@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 17 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 163 Today's Topics: CPM UNDELETE FUNCTION AND MORE.... (2 msgs) need cpm56.com source Re: CP/M DISK FORMATS (WAS RE: CPM TO Re: desk organizer Re: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #162 Re: K10 AND A BBS? Re: MACHINE READABLE FORM OF TECHNICAL DOCUMENTATION ON ZYLOG Z80 Re: Perfect Writer SIMTEL20 task terminated ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 25 Aug 91 04:35:10 GMT From: prometheus!media!ka3ovk!nstar!towers!mgcind!sfbhq!Fred_Mail@mimsy.umd.edu (Brice Fleckenstein) Subject: CPM UNDELETE FUNCTION AND MORE.... Message-ID: <684625139.38@sfbhq.Fidonet.Org> Uniform on a PC-Clone will read/write Kaypro 10 format disks - and Wordstar files should be in a Wordstar readable format already, even if "Document mode".... * Origin: Brice's Library TBBS - Indianapolis IN (317) 353-0410 (1:231/190) ------------------------------ Date: 25 Aug 91 04:35:10 GMT From: prometheus!media!ka3ovk!nstar!towers!mgcind!sfbhq!Fred_Mail@mimsy.umd.edu (Brice Fleckenstein) Subject: CPM UNDELETE FUNCTION AND MORE.... Message-ID: <684625139.40@sfbhq.Fidonet.Org> Uniform on a PC-Clone will read/write Kaypro 10 format disks - and Wordstar files should be in a Wordstar readable format already, even if "Document mode".... * Origin: Brice's Library TBBS - Indianapolis IN (317) 353-0410 (1:231/190) ------------------------------ Date: 17 Sep 91 20:54:13 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!umriscc!curts@hplabs.hpl.hp.com (Curt Schroeder) Subject: need cpm56.com source Message-ID: <3160@umriscc.isc.umr.edu> I am a newcomer to this group, but have been using CP/M 2.2 on my Apple II+ since 1985. I use a patched version that allows me to use a 360K Rana Elite II floppy disk drive. This patch is applied using a .com program that was provided by Rana, who is now defunct. What I need is the annotated source for cpm56.com so that I can figure out what was patched. The reason why I want to determine what was patched is so that I can patch something like ZCPR, etc. to use the capabilities of my Rana drive. Currently, the Rana patch and the ZCPR patch clash, making an unusable version of cpm56.com that supports ZCPR _and_ the Rana drive. I tried asking about this on the apple group, but got no answers. Can anybody help me or point me to a book that would have the information I need? Curt Curt Schroeder | U of Missouri - Rolla | curts@ee.umr.edu | ---------------------------------------| curts@cs.umr.edu | "Oops? What do you mean, oops? I | s076895@umrvma.bitnet | distinctly heard an oops!" - Opus | -- Apple II Forever -- | ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 91 17:44:50 GMT From: prometheus!media!ka3ovk!nstar!towers!mgcind!sfbhq!Fred_Mail@mimsy.umd.edu (Brice Fleckenstein) Subject: Re: CP/M DISK FORMATS (WAS RE: CPM TO Message-ID: <684625139.19@sfbhq.Fidonet.Org> C128's aren't THAT hard to find - Commodore sold well over a million of the things, after all - and they're STILL selling the 1581 3.5" drives.... * Origin: Brice's Library TBBS - Indianapolis IN (317) 353-0410 (1:231/190) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 10:54:46 IST From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" Subject: Re: desk organizer Following my query Chris McEwen was kind enough to suggest HANDY. I found it at SIMTEL20 under PD2:, with the source code (in BASIC). I quote this, just in case somebody else wants it. It does seem to be a very good piece of software. Thanks again, Chris. - Jacques ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 08:31:15 IST From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" Subject: Re: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #162 On Mon, 16 Sep 1991 10:15:10 MDT said: >Date: 15 Sep 91 23:23:10 GMT >From: bobsbox!gnat!cmcewen@rutgers.edu (Chris McEwen) >Subject: Re: Any organizer? >Message-ID: > >PHR00JG%TECHNION@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL ("Jacques J. Goldberg") writes: >> I would greatly appreciate any such CP/M organizer coming with its source >> code, to be able to use the same file structure on the same organizer >> on that horrible PC-clone which plagues my office. > >Since we don't know what organizer you are using in the office, finding >one that duplicates it will present a bit of a problem. I know of one >fairly extensive organizer in CP/M called HANDY. I have it on my bbs's >CPM: (B0:) directory in a file named HANDY.LBR. Unfortunately, it does >not include source code. Sorry, no ftp here -- you'll have to come and >get it at (908) 754-9067. > >Hope that helps. > >_______________________________________________________________________ >Chris McEwen Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal >Editor, TCJ uucp: ..!att!nsscmail!gnat!cmcewen | PO Box 12 > GEnie: c.mcewen -or- TCJ$ | S Plainfield NJ 07080 >The Spirit of the Individual Made This Industry | (908) 755-6186 > >------------------------------ Thanks, Chris. 1-I didn't make myselk clear, it seems. I asked for the source code to port the CP/M program to MS-DOS so that both machines use compatible data files. 2-Would HANDY.LBR be found by chance on some CP/M-UG disk? Jacques ------------------------------ Date: 20 Aug 91 19:22:37 GMT From: prometheus!media!ka3ovk!nstar!towers!mgcind!sfbhq!Fred_Mail@mimsy.umd.edu (Brice Fleckenstein) Subject: Re: K10 AND A BBS? Message-ID: <684625139.16@sfbhq.Fidonet.Org> The "Turn your K10 into a PC-Clone" option has been done before - most noticeably by Kaypro themselves as the K16 - which had HORRIBLE heat problems but was an OK machine otherwise.... * Origin: Brice's Library TBBS - Indianapolis IN (317) 353-0410 (1:231/190) ------------------------------ Date: 17 Sep 91 15:08:53 GMT From: ogicse!qiclab!nosun!techbook!fzsitvay@uunet.uu.net (Frank Zsitvay) Subject: Re: MACHINE READABLE FORM OF TECHNICAL DOCUMENTATION ON ZYLOG Z80 Message-ID: <1991Sep17.150853.29381@techbook.com> In article c9037544@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au (David M Williams) writes: >buhrow@CATS.UCSC.EDU (Brian Buhrow) writes: >> I am looking for machine readable forms of documentation which >>describe the Zylog Z80 microprocessor from the programming point of view. >> I am interested in its registers, its instruction set, how much memory it >>can address how that addressing works, it's i/o capabilities, etc. >> Please respond by mailing to: buhrow@cats >>and telling me or sending me such information. > > I would also like such information. Thanks! > same here, except a slightly different request - information leading to the incorporation and programming of a Z80DMA chip into a homebrew system. for some strange reason that escapes me, information on that chip (and the Z80DART, although folklore has it the DART is a SIO that doesn't do sync comm) is extremely hard to come by... -- fzsitvay@techbook.COM - but don't quote me on that.... According to a reputable source, 'glastnost' translated from Russian really means 'lesser grade of barbed wire.' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 10:52:53 -0400 From: Jay Sage Subject: Re: Perfect Writer Message-ID: <9109171052.AA15075@LL.MIT.EDU> A little while back, Dmitry Grinauz asked about Perfect Writer. Indeed, the company that made it is no longer in business. However, they gave permission to my group at the Boston Computer Society (the ZITEL Group) to distribute the software. There are no longer any manuals, but I am told by the leader of the group (who uses PW himself) that there is a DOC file with enough information to use the program. He also said that anyone familiar with EMACS would feel at home immediately. At the meeting of the group last week I spoke to the disk librarian. He was, unfortunately, a bit vague about the procedures for getting a diskette. He seems to expect people to call him by phone -- not so easy for people outside the Boston area (let alone out of the country). I think the following procedure will work to get a catalog disk listing our holdings (and, I hope, giving full order instructions). Send a blank, formatted, well-labeled diskette in a reusable mailer together with a return address label, return postage, and perhaps $1 for ZITEL to: Dave Veinot 24 Menotomy Road Arlington, MA 02174 For those who can call, his phone number is 617-641-0889. If stamps and currency are a problem, let me know and we can work out something. After all, ZITEL maintains this library so that we can help people get software. Another possibility is the following. Plu*Perfect Systems (Bridger Mitchell) and Sage Microsystems East (my wife's company) have available an improved version of the software called Plu*Perfect Writer (guess what the original product of Plu*Perfect Systems was). PPW was sold originally as an upgrade to PW and assumed that the purchaser had a PW manual; PPW comes only with a DOC file with information on the improved features. I do not use PW or PPW myself, so I cannot tell you now what those improvements are, but I can assure you -- based on my knowledge of Bridger Mitchell's other work -- that it is very much worth having. I think the price is $35. -- Jay Sage, SAGE @ LL.MIT.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 17:44:38 -0400 From: w8sdz@rigel.acs.oakland.edu (Keith Petersen) Subject: SIMTEL20 task terminated Message-ID: <9109172144.AA18112@rigel.acs.oakland.edu> My task of maintaining the WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL archives will be terminated effective September 30, 1991 because there is no funding for it in the fiscal year 1992 budget which begins on October 1st. There will be no one to catalog the MS-DOS, CP/M and MISC repositories or to accept and review new files. My last work day was yesterday because I am on vacation until the end of the month. I am now actively seeking new permanent employment. Questions about the SIMTEL20 archives or problems with FTP should be directed to Action@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL. Keith -- Keith Petersen Maintainer of the MSDOS, MISC and CP/M archives at SIMTEL20 [192.88.110.20] Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil or w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #163 ************************************* 19-Sep-91 01:18:47-MDT,10390;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 01:15:40 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #164 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910919011541.V91N164@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 19 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 164 Today's Topics: Distributions Kaypro-10 Disc Stuck Re: Any organizer? Re: KAYPRO II OWNER (TEXAS) WANTS HELP (2 msgs) Re: Qterm/vt100 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Sep 91 23:26:16 PDT From: pallio.UUCP!dg@mis.ucsf.EDU (David Goodenough) Subject: Distributions Message-ID: A while back I wads kicking up a fuss about distributions going haywire, and none of my messages leaving the good old U.S. of A. Well, one person who replied to my message pointed out that: > I noticed that the volume on comp.os.cpm fell to less than a trickle here > Down Under. So most probably most of the info doesn't get past North > American borders ! > > Anyway, your message got through. Could others use the same route so I > could benefit from cp/m info down here too ? It occurs to me that perhaps it would be a good thing to check what's going on: I get about 2 to 3 to 4 messages a day here. If people outside the U.S. are seeing less than this, then something is not working right. -- dg@pallio.UUCP - David Goodenough +---+ IHS | +-+-+ .....!wet!pallio!dg +-+-+ | AKA: dg%pallio.UUCP@cs.sfsu.edu +---+ ------------------------------ Date: 18 Sep 91 19:45:52 GMT From: jeh@cs.duke.edu (Justin Harlow) Subject: Kaypro-10 Disc Stuck Message-ID: <685223151@bronto.cs.duke.edu> I have a Kaypro-10 which was working fine when I stuck it in the closet about a year ago. When I had occasion to resuscitate it recently, I found to my dismay that the hard disc would not spin up. It makes a couple of muffled "clunk" sounds when I power it up, but that's it. The computer is OK, because I can boot it from floppies, but needless to say, the HD has 99.9% of my files on it (I know, I know... backups :-( Anyway, does anyone out here know of a way to jumpstart the disc short of physical destruction? I looked for little holes and tool access ports but found nothing obvious. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If I get it going, I will probably soon post a "Kaypro 10 for sale" ad, so the person who solves the problem gets a good discount. Thanks, ****************************************************************************** * Justin E. Harlow III * * * * Address: 110 Nuttree Way; Durham, NC 27713 * * Home Phone: 919/493-4300 * * Office: Phone: 919/541-9464 * ****************************************************************************** Internet: jeh@cs.duke.edu UUCP: mcnc!duke!jeh -- Department of Computer Science, Duke University, Durham, NC 27706 Internet: jeh@cs.duke.edu UUCP: mcnc!duke!jeh ------------------------------ Date: 17 Sep 91 20:14:26 GMT From: van-bc!cynic!pevans@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Phillip Evans) Subject: Re: Any organizer? Message-ID: <1991Sep17.201426.27492@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca> In article cmcewen@gnat.rent.com (Chris McEwen) writes: >PHR00JG%TECHNION@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL ("Jacques J. Goldberg") writes: >> I would greatly appreciate any such CP/M organizer coming with its source >> code, to be able to use the same file structure on the same organizer >> on that horrible PC-clone which plagues my office. > >Since we don't know what organizer you are using in the office, finding >one that duplicates it will present a bit of a problem. I know of one >fairly extensive organizer in CP/M called HANDY. I have it on my bbs's >CPM: (B0:) directory in a file named HANDY.LBR. Unfortunately, it does >not include source code. Sorry, no ftp here -- you'll have to come and >get it at (908) 754-9067. > >Hope that helps. > >_______________________________________________________________________ >Chris McEwen Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal >Editor, TCJ uucp: ..!att!nsscmail!gnat!cmcewen | PO Box 12 > GEnie: c.mcewen -or- TCJ$ | S Plainfield NJ 07080 >The Spirit of the Individual Made This Industry | (908) 755-6186 I some time ago downloaded the Cbasic2 source for Handy locally. After spending some time to make it more portable to other terminals I got bored and moved on. If some one wants it the best way is via *gasp* real mail. Tell me your disk format. PS I got about 3/4 done on the mods but it's better than it was.... ------------------------------ Date: 19 Sep 91 00:16:35 GMT From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun!tamuts!jdb8042@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (John Donald Baker) Subject: Re: KAYPRO II OWNER (TEXAS) WANTS HELP Message-ID: <3601@tamsun.TAMU.EDU> check out "The Black Box" in Houston (713) 480-2686. Marc Newmans RCP/M is a FIDO node 1:106/601. (I think that's the number-- read my .sig) John D. Baker ->An Apple 3.5", 5.25", 8" PCPI Applicard ZCPR3 nut// Internet: JDB8042@{tamuts|rigel|sigma|summa|zeus|venus}.tamu.edu BBSs: JOHN BAKER on Z-Node #45 [(713) 937-8886], The Vector Board [(716) 544-1863], The Black Box (FIDO 1:106/601) [(713) 480-2686] Karnage: "Fire at will!" Wil (desperately dodging a hail of automatic weapons fire): "AAAAIYEEEE!!" Karnage: "No, no. Do not fire at Wil, he is my Second Mate. FIRE AT THE SEA-DUCK!!" ------------------------------ Date: 19 Sep 91 01:13:17 GMT From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!ewen@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Ewen McNeill) Subject: Re: KAYPRO II OWNER (TEXAS) WANTS HELP Message-ID: <1991Sep19.011317.26923@actrix.gen.nz> In article <684715147.0@sfbhq.Fidonet.Org> Brice.Fleckenstein@f190.n231.z1.Fidonet.Org (Brice Fleckenstein) writes: > Tell your Texas Kaypro II aquaintance that they should pick up this > confrence (there SHOULD be a Public Access UseNet site in Texas somewhere, if > not in Houston itself) and the FidoNet "CPMTECH" confrence (I'll dig up the > Houston segment of the FidoNet Nodelist if they can't find it) - seem to be > the best sources of CP/M support going any more.... > Oh, I agree with that. The trouble is that this letter turned up out of the blue, with very little information in it other than someone who had a Kaypro and wanted support. From New Zealand, it is difficult to support someone in Texas.... :-) Perhaps someone else who is contacting him (I have passed the address onto a couple of people) could mention the wonders of modems. As a side note, what is the volume in CPMTECH like? I might be interested in getting it brought into New Zealand, but that would mean someone paying the bills... -- Ewen McNeill, ewen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Sep 91 19:39:29 PDT From: pallio.UUCP!dg@mis.ucsf.EDU (David Goodenough) Subject: Re: Qterm/vt100 Message-ID: fzsitvay@techbook.COM sez: > In article <9460729@ub.cc.umich.edu> Steve.Graham@UB.CC.UMICH.EDU writes: >> I am using the cpm QTERM comm program with its vt100 emulator to talk to >> our mainframe (UB-MTS) full-screen message system. >> I am running QTERM on a Kaypro-II, a slow machine. >> The problem I am having is that even at 1200 baud sometimes the vt100 >> codes coming in from MTS go by too fast for the Kaypro to keep up, and the >> screen gets scrambled. I checked this out at 300 baud, and at that speed >> it works first time, every time, but that is impractical. > > most cp/m com programs use an "overlay" to allow the same executable code > to work on different serial port hardware. your best bet would be to > rewrite the overlay so it does interrupt driven input/output. the hardware > is definately able to support it. Agreed. I'm in the process of trying to write an interrupt driver for the Kaypro, the only problem (as far as I can tell) is that I need to do some other "interrupt related" things myself, because I'm messing with the interrupts, and may wind up screwing something up. However it ought to be possible. > but the reason why i said this might not work is because interrupt driven > input will allow the terminal/computer to store characters it otherwise > would miss in a circular buffer in RAM. If the serial port baud rate is > too fast for the processor to handle, then interrupt driven input won't do > a scrap of good. Also agreed - you're presimably talking about the case when the text data is arriving too fast. However most all CP/M systems can dump printable characters to the screen in almost no time at all. It's things like scrolling the screen and some of the other strange functions that start taking time. provided there's a reasonable amount of text output as text, it ought to work OK. Consider the C128 - that's slower than the Mississippi in the summertime getting text to the screen, but it can still keep up at 2400 with an interrupt driven serial driver. > someone may have already gone ahead and written an interrupt driven > overlay for QTERM for the kaypro II, so if you can find someone who has one > you may have the easy way out there. I'd love it if they had - cuz it'd save me a pile of work. However, I'll get this beaten senseless yet. Either that or die trying. :-/ > but if you can't find one, i'll help you with it. I have a kaypro II 83, > ..... Humm. You wanna be a beta tester for the driver when I get it done? -- dg@pallio.UUCP - David Goodenough +---+ IHS | +-+-+ .....!wet!pallio!dg +-+-+ | AKA: dg%pallio.UUCP@cs.sfsu.edu +---+ ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #164 ************************************* 20-Sep-91 11:23:22-MDT,11958;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 20 Sep 91 11:15:14 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #165 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910920111519.V91N165@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 20 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 165 Today's Topics: How to do Sector I/O in CP/M+ (???) Plu*Perfect contact? Re: disk drive stuck on a Kaypro Re: HANDY, HANDY+ organizers Re: Kaypro-10 Disc Stuck (2 msgs) The future of the SIMTEL-20 archive. Z80 information ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 8 Sep 91 23:05:23 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!ira.uka.de!sun.rhrk.uni-kl.de!uklirb!posthorn!posthorn.informatik.uni-kl.de!radest@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Guenter Radestock (Gast Reithermann)) Subject: How to do Sector I/O in CP/M+ (???) Message-ID: <1991Sep8.230523.1524@posthorn.informatik.uni-kl.de> I am in the way of porting a few programs from CP/M 2.2 to CP/M+ and have no access to CP/M+ manuals. I tried to do sector or record I/O in CP/M+ but couldn't get it to work. I know - how to call the BIOS with a BIOSPB ... - that the BIOS READ and WRITE do physical, not logical I/O - that the SECTRAN call translates from logical to physical I don't know - how exactly to call SECTRAN - how to determine the physical sector size - why I didn't manage to get ANY read to work yet (Track0, Sector1 should work even if my assumptions on Sector numbers are wrong) - what happened to the deblocking flags from CP/M2.2 - if (maybe) there are new flags in CP/M3 Any help will be appreciated. - Guenter Please don't flame me for my bad english. this is my first post to this group. ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 91 14:39:00 GMT From: pitt!grgzfla!dcb@gatech.edu (Daniel C Becker) Subject: Plu*Perfect contact? Message-ID: >From news Thu Sep 19 11:30:00 1991 Path: grgzfla!pitt!unix.cis.pitt.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!LL.MIT.EDU!sage >From: sage@LL.MIT.EDU (Jay Sage) Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: Perfect Writer Message-ID: <9109171052.AA15075@LL.MIT.EDU> Date: 17 Sep 91 14:52:53 GMT Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 37 In Message-ID: <9109171052.AA15075@LL.MIT.EDU>, sage@LL.MIT.EDU (Jay Sage) says: > Another possibility is the following. Plu*Perfect Systems (Bridger > Mitchell) ... [text removed] ... but I can assure you -- based on my > knowledge of Bridger Mitchell's other work -- that it is very much > worth having. I have a Kaypro II and a Kaypro 4 with Advent TurboROM upgrades. I happen to notice that it looks like the code for the TurboROM was, in some way, jointly developed with Plu*Perfect. However, nothing I have says how to contact the folks at Plu*Perfect. This seems like a good time to ask: How can I contact Plu*Perfect or Bridger Mitchell concerning the 'other work' as Jay puts it? Thanks in advance! :-) Aufweidertypen! -- dcb -- {Daniel C | Dan} Becker UUCP: ... pitt!grgzfla!dcb USENET: dcb%grgzfla.UUCP@vax.cs.pitt.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 19:15:02 IST From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" Subject: Re: disk drive stuck on a Kaypro You may be lucky and have a drive just like my original Shugart 604. That one reminds me from time to time that it loves being petted: look from the rear thru the blind between the printed card and the body of the drive. You will perhaps see a stainless steel drum. Learn how to introduce your finger (NO METAL PART) and exercise gently spinning the drum, with power off. When you feel you begin to love the drive (and will therefore NEVER get rid of your CP/M baby), power up and help the drive start. With a little bit of love from your side, it will serve you for long years to come... Jacques ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 19:22:18 IST From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" Subject: Re: HANDY, HANDY+ organizers I hope I am not abusing this net to just inform myself. This note follows a report of an attempt to recompile HANDY with CBASIC2. 1-Re PD2:HANDYS (the source file). Its DOC says that the author converted if from CBASIC2 to CB80. People who wish to compile with CBASIC2 could perhaps ask the author for the original CBASIC2 code... 2-In the same directory, 00INDEX.TXT says that the contents of HANDYP10.LBR is unknown: it's a hidden GEM ( a real GEM, not an Atari): it's HANDY extended and written in dBase ][ language, with quite a bit of powerful additional features. Incredibly enough, it isn't in PD1: nor <.DBASE>. But porting it to MSDOS, and shuttling the data file diskette between the two systems, is very easy, and solved my problem. Thanks, networkers - Jacques ------------------------------ Date: 19 Sep 91 23:06:11 GMT From: ogicse!hsdndev!encore!m2c!wpi.WPI.EDU!ear@decwrl.dec.com (Mr. Neat-O [tm]) Subject: Re: Kaypro-10 Disc Stuck Message-ID: <1991Sep19.230611.2624@wpi.WPI.EDU> In article <685223151@bronto.cs.duke.edu> jeh@duke.cs.duke.edu (Justin Harlow) writes: >I have a Kaypro-10 which was working fine when I stuck it in the closet >about a year ago. When I had occasion to resuscitate it recently, I >found to my dismay that the hard disc would not spin up. It makes a >couple of muffled "clunk" sounds when I power it up, but that's it. That's probably just the head seeking to track 0. >Anyway, does anyone out here know of a way to jumpstart the disc short >of physical destruction? Try taking the hard disk unit out of the computer so that you can move it freely in space. Being careful not to drop it or throw it across the room accidentally, try jerking the platters loose by quickly twisting it back and forth about the axis of rotation of the platters. I have actually done this once with an old Seagate full-height HD and it worked without losing any info. However, I make no guarantees... +---------< Eric A. Rasmussen - Mr. Neat-O (tm) >---------+ +< Email Address >+ | A real engineer never reads the instructions first. | | ear@wpi.wpi.edu | | (They figure out how it works by playing with it.) | | ear%wpi@wpi.edu | +---------------------------------------------------------+ +-----------------+ ((( In Stereo Where Available ))) ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 91 06:17:13 GMT From: wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!kwgst@decwrl.dec.com (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) Subject: Re: Kaypro-10 Disc Stuck Message-ID: <179625@unix.cis.pitt.edu> In article <685223151@bronto.cs.duke.edu> jeh@duke.cs.duke.edu (Justin Harlow) writes: >I have a Kaypro-10 which was working fine when I stuck it in the closet >about a year ago. When I had occasion to resuscitate it recently, I >found to my dismay that the hard disc would not spin up. It makes a >couple of muffled "clunk" sounds when I power it up, but that's it. The >computer is OK, because I can boot it from floppies, but needless to >say, the HD has 99.9% of my files on it (I know, I know... backups :-( > >Anyway, does anyone out here know of a way to jumpstart the disc short >of physical destruction? I looked for little holes and tool access >ports but found nothing obvious. Any suggestions would be greatly >appreciated. If I get it going, I will probably soon post a "Kaypro 10 >for sale" ad, so the person who solves the problem gets a good >discount. > Greetings. Wow, another Kaypro 10 user! I got mine for $10 WORKING! - I don't think you will give me a discound _that_ good! :-) Anyways, I have a drive just like that in my IBM XT. It's a 20MB 28ms deal and instead of tossing it, I drilled a hole in the computer case, took off the static strap, made a handy-dandy "crank", and everyday, before turning on the power, I spin it up - MANUALLY! It brings a new meaning to the saying: "The XT is to PC's what Model T was to cars" ;-) SERIOUSLY, what you need to do is this: Take off the screws, 2 on top, 4 on each side (phillips). Take out the hard disk controller card (4 screws) - remember how the cables go! Take out the floppy drive (4? screws from bottom) Take off cables from floppy drive and hard drive - same for power. Take out the 4 screws from the bottom that hold the HD cage. Disconnect the 80-pin ribbon cable. Take out the 4 screws that hold the HD in metal box. On the PCB side, in the middle of the board, there should be a metal strap (grounding) - if there is a screw, take it out, if not, just bend the metal. HERE IT IS: With a small screwdriver, spin the "wheel" a few revs. IF YOU MANAGE TO ASSEMBLE THE COMPUTER, THE HARD DRIVE WILL SPIN UP! I'm serious, this is the only way on the K10. In my PC, I just installed the drive up side down and took off the grounding strip completely. The hole in the case is aligned with the hole that was left when I took the carbon "plug" out. The plug is used as a bearing for the contact area where the static strap touches the spinning motor. I just insert the crank, crank it a few times, and hit the BIG RED SWITCH and it boots just fine - as it has for 1+1/2 years! Take care. P.S. So, what's the deal on NEVER mounting a hard drive up side down? I put over 1,000 hours on mine (with thre above problem) :-) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If reply bounces, try "kwgst@pittvms"... no? try "fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu" Did you hear? Some Poles burned the Russian flag near the Soviet embassy, in Poland. :-) :-) "Nothing is impossible if you don't have to do it yourself." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 19:36:55 IST From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" Subject: The future of the SIMTEL-20 archive. I am certainly prepared to commit myself to take a 10 years subscription for say 50$/year. How many of us are needed to offer THAT job to Keith, instead of hearing that a person to whom we owe so much has to look for a job now? I certainly would not write this so "straight" if he wasn't already on vacations. I urge the temporary editor (I hope there is one), to quickly launch a campain to make sure that Keith stays with us, not a frustrating one year, but at least 10, to set a reasonable target. Jacques Goldberg Professor of Physics TECHNION, Haifa, Israel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 18:25:13 PDT From: cwr@pnet01.cts.com (Will Rose) Subject: Z80 information Message-ID: Someone was asking for Z80 info, specfically on the Z80 DART. The best place seems the Zilog Z80 Family Data Book. I got a copy from Radiospares/Electromail in England for 10 pounds or so. It doesn't seem to have a reference number, only a name, and is dated Jan 1989. It contains specifications for everything from the Z80 to the Z280, and a bunch of application notes - around 440 pages. Hope this helps - Will UUCP: {nosc ucsd hplabs!hp-sdd}!crash!pnet01!cwr ARPA: crash!pnet01!cwr@nosc.mil INET: cwr@pnet01.cts.com ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #165 ************************************* 23-Sep-91 06:20:27-MDT,9436;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 91 06:15:20 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #166 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910923061521.V91N166@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 23 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 166 Today's Topics: Book Wanted CP/M and Z-System magazine Pickles & Trout CP/M Needed for TRS-80 Model 16 Plu*Perfect contact? (2nd posting) Plu*Perfect Systems' address Re: OFFLINE MAILER (WAS: CP/M SCREENPLAY FO Re: Qterm/vt100 S100 Boards and TurboDOS Info Sought ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Sep 91 16:40:13 GMT From: microsoft!kentsu@uunet.uu.net (Kent SULLIVAN) Subject: Book Wanted Message-ID: <1991Sep21.164013.3080@microsoft.com> I am looking for the book "C-128 CP/M User's Guide" by Abacus. It's book #8 in their series on the Commodore 128. Would prefer new but good used is acceptable. Please email with whereabouts and price. Thanks! Kent Sullivan Microsoft Corporation The opinions expressed in this article are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -- Kent Sullivan Microsoft Corporation The opinions expressed in this article are my own and do not necessarily ------------------------------ Date: 20 Sep 91 22:53:40 GMT From: att!pacbell.com!tandem!MCGLONE_DAVID@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU@Tandem.Com (David A.J. McGlone) Subject: CP/M and Z-System magazine Message-ID: <1991Sep20.225340.9337@tandem.com> I'm not sure of the etiquette here, so I'll keep this short. I publish one of the few CP/M and Z-System magazines left. It's called The Z-Letter, and it's been monthly, with a new 8-1/2 x 11" format, since November 1990. (Before that it had a different format and was very occasional.) The Z-Letter carries letters, articles, news, and advertisements from companies that sell CP/M and Z-System software and hardware. The September issue, which will be out shortly, will carry the complete parts list and schematics for the new YASBEC computer. If you would like a free sample issue of The Z-Letter, send me your address, and I'll send you a copy. Of course I hope you'll subscribe ($15 per year U.S., $18 Canada & Mexico, $45 overseas). I'm also looking for distributors to make The Z-Letter cheaper overseas, especially Australia, New Zealand, and Europe. ------------------------------ Date: 22 Sep 91 06:18:21 GMT From: coyote!bbs@noao.edu (harry kight) Subject: Pickles & Trout CP/M Needed for TRS-80 Model 16 Message-ID: <5owN91w163w@coyote.datalog.com> At last! I now have public posting permission! Have just acquired a TRS-80 Model 16 & am looking for either Pickles & Trout or Lifeboat Associates CP/M-80 ver 2.2 for it. Any help will be much appreciated! Also looking for a hard disk upgrade kit for the Model 16, with software, which will allow me to use the Tandy 8-Meg (dinosaur) HD that I also have acquired. CP/M driver for it would also be nice... Thanks in advance! ---Gramps (gramps@datalog.com) ------------------------------ Date: 22 Sep 91 01:10:00 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!pitt!grgzfla!dcb@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel C Becker) Subject: Plu*Perfect contact? (2nd posting) Message-ID: {sorry for the redundancy! the 1st posting still had _all_ the header info from Jay's origional message, so I'm not sure if it'll really go anywhere.} In Message-ID: <9109171052.AA15075@LL.MIT.EDU>, sage@LL.MIT.EDU (Jay Sage) says: > Another possibility is the following. Plu*Perfect Systems (Bridger > Mitchell) ... [text removed] ... but I can assure you -- based on my > knowledge of Bridger Mitchell's other work -- that it is very much > worth having. I have a Kaypro II and a Kaypro 4 with Advent TurboROM upgrades. I happen to notice that it looks like the code for the TurboROM was, in some way, jointly developed with Plu*Perfect. However, nothing I have says how to contact the folks at Plu*Perfect. This seems like a good time to ask: How can I contact Plu*Perfect or Bridger Mitchell concerning the 'other work' as Jay puts it? Thanks in advance! :-) Aufweidertypen! -- dcb -- {Daniel C | Dan} Becker UUCP: ... pitt!grgzfla!dcb USENET: dcb%grgzfla.UUCP@vax.cs.pitt.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Sep 91 11:19:38 PDT From: Bridger Mitchell Subject: Plu*Perfect Systems' address Message-ID: <9109211819.AA06530@newton> In reply to Daniel C Becker's query, Plu*Perfect wrote the code for the Kaypro TurboRom, which was then jointly produced with Advent Products. The address is: Plu*Perfect Systems 410 23rd St. Santa Monica CA 90402 213-393-6105 (eves.) ------------------------------ Date: 19 Sep 91 11:02:23 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!axion!tharr!nowster!pm@uunet.uu.net (Paul Martin) Subject: Re: OFFLINE MAILER (WAS: CP/M SCREENPLAY FO Message-ID: Brice.Fleckenstein@f190.n231.z1.Fidonet.Org wrote: > Does CRR0110 work with .QWK mail packets? That DOES seem to be becomming > the standard of late - and I don't have ANY idea what type of packets XRS > generates, as there is no XRS version for TBBS.... CRR0120.ZIP is the latest version. In my opinion QWK is a duff standard, and very few of the readers based on that file format generate messages which conform with Fidonet specifications. (The messages will be thrown away by the Zone1 echomail backbone software.) XRS-Door (by Mike Ratledge) only works for Remote Access, QuickBBS, and SuperBBS based bulletin boards, although a bundler for *.MSG type message bases is currently being written. -- Paul Martin, Author of CRR Internet: pm.nowster@tharr.UUCP Fidonet: Paul Martin 2:250/107.3 ------------------------------ Date: 23 Sep 91 04:33:00 GMT From: psgrain!percy!nosun!techbook!fzsitvay@uunet.uu.net (Frank Zsitvay) Subject: Re: Qterm/vt100 Message-ID: <1991Sep23.043300.3124@techbook.com> In article dg@pallio.UUCP (David Goodenough) writes: >fzsitvay@techbook.COM sez: >> but if you can't find one, i'll help you with it. I have a kaypro II 83, >> ..... > >Humm. You wanna be a beta tester for the driver when I get it done? sure - just toss source in so i can see what you're doing. another possibility that works, albeit a hardware solution, is to pull the Z80 from its socket, bend pin 24 up, reinsert the chip with pin 24 still sticking up, and solder one leg of a 220 ohm resistor to pin 24. solder a wire onto the other leg, and run it to a +5 source in the computer. (pin 11 on the Z80 will do.) stick one end of a 220-1000 ohm resistor into pin 24 of the Z80s socket (making sure it does not touch pin 24 of the Z80) and tie the other end to Z80 pin 29. what this does is eliminate the WAIT state that was built into the kaypro. i haven't tried this on a kaypro, only on a TRS80 model II, and had good success getting it to keep up at 2400 baud. bear in mind, this mod is not guarenteed (only do this if you've done stuff like this before). don't hold me responsible if you blow up your machine. a little clarification - i'm not even sure if there was a wait state or two added to the kaypro machine cycle, however i do remember this was a common practice way back when, and it mainly was because of the memory chips being used. most were conservatively rated, and most machines will work with the wait state removed. this mod speeds up a TRS80 Mod II about 20-25%. some boot roms are too slow to operate without the wait state, and some disk format programs use CPU timing cycles as part of their operation, so this will not work on those machines. if you do this mod, the first thing you should try when you complete the hardware side of it is to boot the machine and try to format a disk. if everything still works right, then i'd say it's safe... and even if it does not work, it's easy to undo... -- fzsitvay@techbook.COM - but don't quote me on that.... According to a reputable source, 'glastnost' translated from Russian really means 'lesser grade of barbed wire.' ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 91 16:32:53 -0400 From: Jay Sage Subject: S100 Boards and TurboDOS Info Sought Message-ID: <9109201632.AA19839@LL.MIT.EDU> I fellow I know is looking for S100 stuff that people might have abandoned. He runs a 16-bit TurboDOS-86 system and would be interested in acquiring surplus boards, either 16-bit cards of any sort or 8-bit peripheral cards. He would also love to find some others who know something about TurboDOS-86. Here is the info for anyone interested in making contact: Tony Omer Box 2710 Vineyard Haven, MA 02568 508-693-6100 (day) 508-693-3015 (eve) ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #166 ************************************* 23-Sep-91 21:19:55-MDT,9327;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 91 21:15:06 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #167 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910923211507.V91N167@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 23 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 167 Today's Topics: HELP! My computer is dead! High-level programming for Z80 microprocessor PIP Re: Pickles & Trout CP/M Needed for TRS-80 Model 16 Re: PIP (3 msgs) Re: The future of the SIMTEL-20 archive. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Sep 91 22:00:43 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!msi.umn.edu!noc.MR.NET!ns!news@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (John R. Lyman) Subject: HELP! My computer is dead! Message-ID: <1991Sep23.220043.777@ns.network.com> I have a Bigboard II computer. It was acting rather flakey for a while (the thing would make a strange noise, freeze up, and have a faint odor of something burning), but I could reboot and everything would be fine. Well my wife was using it when this happened and she left it in that state while she called me at work to find out what to do .. now it's totally dead. I checked the power supply first and found that when the power supply is connected to the computer the 5v supply drops to about 2.5v. So I connected up a resistor (alternate load), the voltage held steady, so I concluded that there must be a partial short in the computer (feel free to correct me at any point). So I pulled out all of the ICs (in groups) and reconnected power, still 2.5v, so I guess its not the ICs. Now I guess it might be a Cap, Diode, or Resistor, but it's a fair amount of work to pull those off the board. Anybody out there got any ideas, or even better some experience fixing this type of computer? Thanks in advance, for any help you can send my way. John R. Lyman III lyman@anubis.network.com ------------------------------ Date: 23 Sep 91 12:09:28 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!warwick!esrmp@uunet.uu.net (Mr l Kaya) Subject: High-level programming for Z80 microprocessor Message-ID: Hello everybody, I am not a regular reader of this newgroup. I have been directed to here from sci.electronics newsgroup. Therefore if this question was asked resently, I appologies for repetition. Kaya ________________________________________________________________ I have built a Z80 based system. Now, I am trying to develop some piece of software for this system. I have been using a Z80 asmbler to develop a program. For simple programs just using asmbler is not a problem, but for long and complicated programs it needs more care and insight into low-level programming. Is there any way to develop software in a high-level language (preferably C language) and get machine code for my programs. Any help will be very much appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: 23 Sep 91 00:05:11 GMT From: psinntp!uupsi!dorsaidm!k2doggo@uunet.uu.net (jim chapman) Subject: PIP Message-ID: ABout User areas: on my Kaypro 10 (just bought on the sidewalks of NYC for $20, and works fine!) I can't do this: A3> pip a:=c:*.* G0 which is my apparently wrong idea of how to copy everything off the C: floppy into the current user area 3 of the hard drive A:. What should I be doing instead? ------------------------------ Date: 23 Sep 91 17:25:05 GMT From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: Pickles & Trout CP/M Needed for TRS-80 Model 16 Message-ID: <1991Sep23.172505.11581@baron.uucp> gramps@coyote.datalog.com (harry kight) writes: >Have just acquired a TRS-80 Model 16 & am looking for either Pickles & Trout >or Lifeboat Associates CP/M-80 ver 2.2 for it. Any help will be much >appreciated! > Pickles & Trout CP/M-80 is still available from: TriSoft (James Knox) 1825 East 38 1/2 Austin, TX 78722 (512) 472-0744 (800) 531-5170 FAX (512) 473-2122 >Also looking for a hard disk upgrade kit for the Model 16, with software, >which will allow me to use the Tandy 8-Meg (dinosaur) HD that I also have >acquired. CP/M driver for it would also be nice... > Not sure whether P&T covers that or not, but I'd bet that TriSoft would know. >Thanks in advance! > Yup! - don Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 23 Sep 91 18:12:14 GMT From: aunro!ersys!davem@lll-winken.llnl.gov (Dave McCrady) Subject: Re: PIP Message-ID: <4eoq94w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> k2doggo@dorsai.com (jim chapman) writes: > ABout User areas: on my Kaypro 10 (just bought on the sidewalks of NYC > for $20, and works fine!) I can't do this: > > A3> pip a:=c:*.* G0 > > which is my apparently wrong idea of how to copy everything off the C: > floppy into the current user area 3 of the hard drive A:. What should I > be doing instead? Track down a copy of Dave Rand's NSWP program .. it will let you do that and much more ..... Dave McCrady davem@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca Edmonton Remote Systems: Serving Northern Alberta since 1982 ------------------------------ Date: 23 Sep 91 18:37:34 GMT From: bobsbox!gnat!ahm@rutgers.edu (Andreas Meyer) Subject: Re: PIP Message-ID: k2doggo@dorsai.com (jim chapman) writes: > I can't do this: > A3> pip a:=c:*.* G0 > What should I be doing instead? The immediate solution is: A3> pip a:=c:*.*[g0] (gotta add them square brackets!) For the future, you should get a sweep utility (like SW.COM or NS207.COM) which will make your life much simpler. If you're not sure where to get such things, I'm across town from a system that's chock ull of nifty CP/M thingies: Socrates Z-Node #32 908-754-9067 Cheers, Andy Andreas Meyer, N2FYE ahm@gnat.rent.com {backbone}!att!nsscmail!gnat!ahm Life, in order of importance: food, shelter and a pair of very loud speakers. ------------------------------ Date: 23 Sep 91 17:25:03 GMT From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: PIP Message-ID: <1991Sep23.172503.11561@baron.uucp> k2doggo@dorsai.com (jim chapman) writes: >ABout User areas: on my Kaypro 10 (just bought on the sidewalks of NYC >for $20, and works fine!) I can't do this: > >A3> pip a:=c:*.* G0 > >which is my apparently wrong idea of how to copy everything off the C: >floppy into the current user area 3 of the hard drive A:. What should I >be doing instead? Try this instead. A3> pip a:=c:*.* [G0 - don Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 23 Sep 91 00:24:20 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!metro!usage.csd.unsw.oz.au!henryb@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Dr Henry Brancik) Subject: Re: The future of the SIMTEL-20 archive. Message-ID: <2571@usage.csd.unsw.oz.au> In article <9109200705.AA04127@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, PHR00JG%TECHNION@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL ("Jacques J. Goldberg") writes: > I am certainly prepared to commit myself to take a 10 years subscription > for say 50$/year. How many of us are needed to offer THAT job to Keith, > instead of hearing that a person to whom we owe so much has to look for > a job now? > > I certainly would not write this so "straight" if he wasn't already > on vacations. I urge the temporary editor (I hope there is one), to quickly > launch a campain to make sure that Keith stays with us, not a frustrating > one year, but at least 10, to set a reasonable target. > > Jacques Goldberg > Professor of Physics > TECHNION, Haifa, Israel I am prepared to do the same (10 year "subscription" for about $US50/year) and I hope that many other people would be prepared to contribute more or less. Henry Bramcik, Sch. Fiber Sc. Tech., Univ. N.S.W., P.O.Box 1, Kensington 2033 AUSTRALIA E-mail: henryb@usage.csd.unsw.oz.au ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #167 ************************************* 25-Sep-91 15:24:42-MDT,8262;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 25 Sep 91 15:15:16 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #168 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910925151517.V91N168@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 25 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 168 Today's Topics: C-128 CP/M screen I/O CP/M 2.2 Software collecting FAQ for this group and an FTP archive site list? qterm for kaypro beta testing?? Re: High-level programming for Z80 microprocessor Re: The future of the SIMTEL-20 archive. (2 msgs) WANTED: Zenith H89 software ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 24 Sep 91 23:45:19 GMT From: microsoft!kentsu@uunet.uu.net (Kent SULLIVAN) Subject: C-128 CP/M screen I/O Message-ID: <1991Sep24.234519.21558@microsoft.com> A few friends and I are looking into the persistent problem of slow screen I/O in Commodore 128 CP/M. Progress is being made and perhaps we'll have some info (dare I say solutions?) to share in the future. In the meantime, if anyone out there has researched this issue and has info to share, please contact me. We'd prefer not re-inventing the wheel... -- Kent Sullivan Microsoft Corporation The opinions expressed in this article are my own and do not necessarily ------------------------------ Date: 25 Sep 91 19:53:48 GMT From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!kannel!messmer@uunet.uu.net (Willi Messmer) Subject: CP/M 2.2 Software collecting Message-ID: My unusual hobby is cpm 2.2 soft-collecting....I have already about 25Mb of commercial,pd,etc. (in 5"1/4 disks) If you're interesting to expand this or yours collection, send me some mail Email: messmer@lut.fi Post-addr: Willi Messmer Punkkerikatu 5 C 43 53850 Lappeenranta Finland ------------------------------ Date: 24 Sep 91 20:32:30 GMT From: agate!linus!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!umriscc!curts@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Curt Schroeder) Subject: FAQ for this group and an FTP archive site list? Message-ID: <3193@umriscc.isc.umr.edu> I have been following this group for a short time now. Is there a FAQ for the group and is there a list of FTP archive sites (possibly in the FAQ?)? Also, does anyone know where I can find the annotated source code for the cpm56.com file? I really need access to this info so I can figure out how to make patches for my Rana Elite II drive on CP/M versions other than CP/M 2.2. Thanks in advance, Curt Curt Schroeder | U of Missouri - Rolla | curts@ee.umr.edu | ---------------------------------------| curts@cs.umr.edu | "Oops? What do you mean, oops? I | s076895@umrvma.bitnet | distinctly heard an oops!" - Opus | -- Apple II Forever -- | ------------------------------ Date: 24 Sep 91 02:47:10 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!engr.uark.edu!spider.ualr.edu!chwest@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU Subject: qterm for kaypro beta testing?? Message-ID: <1991Sep23.214710.68@spider.ualr.edu> David I hate to reply via the news but mailer didnt like either address.. If your offer on beta testers was a public one I would like to try it.. Charles West chwest@ualr.edu ------------------------------ Date: 24 Sep 91 07:14:52 GMT From: mcsun!hp4nl!gufalet.let.rug.nl!rug4!laverman@uunet.uu.net (Bert Laverman) Subject: Re: High-level programming for Z80 microprocessor Message-ID: <1991Sep24.071452.7370@cs.rug.nl> In article esrmp@warwick.ac.uk (Mr l Kaya) writes: >I have built a Z80 based system. Now, I am trying to develop some >piece of software for this system. I have been using a Z80 >asmbler to develop a program. For simple programs just using asmbler >is not a problem, but for long and complicated programs it needs more >care and insight into low-level programming. > Is there any way to develop software in a high-level language >(preferably C language) and get machine code for my programs. The main question here is: What kind of system do you use for development? For CP/M systems there is a wide choice of compilers. (See the CP/M compiler list) I'm not sure about cross-compilers for MS-DOS... Greetings, Bert -- #include Bert Laverman, Dept. of Computing Science, Groningen University laverman@cs.rug.nl bert@arrakis.nl.mugnet.org ------------------------------ Date: 24 Sep 91 14:25:00 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!pitt!grgzfla!dcb@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel C Becker) Subject: Re: The future of the SIMTEL-20 archive. Message-ID: In Message-ID: <2571@usage.csd.unsw.oz.au> henryb@usage.csd.unsw.oz.au (Dr Henry Brancik) writes: > In article <9109200705.AA04127@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, PHR00JG%TECHNION@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL ("Jacques J. Goldberg") writes: > > I am certainly prepared to commit myself to take a 10 years subscription > > for say 50$/year. How many of us are needed to offer THAT job to Keith, > > instead of hearing that a person to whom we owe so much has to look for > > a job now? > > I am prepared to do the same (10 year "subscription" for about $US50/year) > and I hope that many other people would be prepared to contribute more or > less. I wouldn't mind contributing either, if my status as 'unemployed' would change. Unfortunately, I don't think it will anytime soon. Also, as SimTel20 (and hence Keith's position) is somehow funded by the US government, I would find it very unlikely that even if _every_ subscriber to comp.os.cpm petitioned for its continued existance, the decision would be reversed. It boils down to money, and Uncle Sam has decided that the CP/M community is no longer worth holding onto. It would seem prudent to investigate ways of minimizing the effect that losing SimTel20 (and Keith) will have to our archiving/retreiving ability. I understand there was another site somewhere that 'mirrored' SimTel20; true? Will that system also be closing shop? Or will it become the prime archive site for comp.os.cpm ? Might it be possible to convince some other site to provide a home for said archive? If there is such a site, but is lacking in administrative manpower to handle the load, I think we can suggest a qualified canidate (right Keith? ;-)). -- dcb -- {Daniel C | Dan} Becker UUCP: ... pitt!grgzfla!dcb USENET: dcb%grgzfla.UUCP@vax.cs.pitt.edu ------------------------------ Date: 24 Sep 91 16:27:35 GMT From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!rknop@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Robert Andrew Knop) Subject: Re: The future of the SIMTEL-20 archive. Message-ID: <1991Sep24.162735.25740@cco.caltech.edu> dcb@grgzfla.UUCP (Daniel C Becker) writes: >I understand there was another site somewhere that 'mirrored' SimTel20; >true? wuarchive.wustl.edu has an archive in pub/mirrors/cpm, which seems to be fairly complete. I have no idea what their submission policy is, or if they take submissions to the mirrors directory. -Rob Knop rknop@tybalt.caltech.edu ------------------------------ Date: 25 Sep 91 17:43:31 GMT From: soleil!mlb.semi.harris.com!eltanin.rtp.semi.harris.com!routh@rutgers.edu (Kevin Routh x622) Subject: WANTED: Zenith H89 software Message-ID: <1991Sep25.174331.373@mlb.semi.harris.com> I have a Zenith/Heath H89 computer with no software whatsoever, no diskettes. Who could help me get some software for this computer? If I can't find any software, I guess I'll disect it for parts. It has one internal 5.25" hardsectored disk drive. Thanks. -- Kevin Routh (routh@rtp.semi.harris.com) Harris Semiconductor, Research Triangle Park, NC (919) 361-1622 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #168 ************************************* 27-Sep-91 13:19:57-MDT,11404;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 27 Sep 91 13:15:07 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #169 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910927131508.V91N169@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 27 Sep 91 Volume 91 : Issue 169 Today's Topics: CP/M Laptop Found! a PL/I like compiler H89 software Need info on the Apple CP/M 2.2 cpm56.com sysgen program. Re: C-128 CP/M screen I/O (2 msgs) Re: FAQ for this group and an FTP archive site list? Re: PIP ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 Sep 91 15:12:53 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!ox.com!caen!nstar!wheeler@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Mike Wheeler) Subject: CP/M Laptop Message-ID: <7BXV92w161w@nstar.rn.com> A friend of mine has a CP/M Laptop with microfloppy drive etc. and is looking to sell it or swap for a MS/DOS system. Anyone interested can mail me or leave me a message here. Mike Eheeler UUCP: uunet!nstar!wheeler Internet: wheeler@nstar.rn.com -- Mike Wheeler Northern Star 8 line BBS 219-289-0287/317-251-7391 internet: wheeler@nstar.rn.com uucp: ..!uunet!nstar.rn.com!wheeler -= newsfeeds available, contact robert@towers.rn.com =- ------------------------------ Date: 26 Sep 91 05:50:36 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!kwgst@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) Subject: Found! a PL/I like compiler Message-ID: <182146@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. There was once a discussion on where to find a PL/I compiler. Well, I found something like that but for MS-DOS. I ran it on my 486 without problems. It came as a ZIP file which contained the executable, GET THIS! 290K of C source ;-), and a bunch of examples (hey, one of them calculates PI to any number of digits - provided you can wait, and I mean, wait... :-) You can find it on wuarchive but since it is in the /mirrors, it should also be on Simtel20. It's in the directory: /mirrors/msdos/pli <- If I remember correctly... With a nice C compiler and some knowledge on changing ms-dos calls to cp/m, I'm sure someone out there could do wonders! Take care. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If reply bounces, try "kwgst@pittvms"... no? try "fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu" Did you hear? Some Poles burned the Russian flag near the Soviet embassy, in Poland. :-) :-) "Nothing is impossible if you don't have to do it yourself." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 91 16:14:43 EDT From: Alex Bodnar (STEAP-IMD 5545) Subject: H89 software Message-ID: <9109261614.aa11038@BRL-VGR.APG-EMH5.APG.ARMY.MIL> :Date: 25 Sep 91 17:43:31 GMT :From: soleil!mlb.semi.harris.com!eltanin.rtp.semi.harris.com!routh@rutgers.edu (Kevin Routh x622) :Subject: WANTED: Zenith H89 software :Message-ID: <1991Sep25.174331.373@mlb.semi.harris.com> :I have a Zenith/Heath H89 computer with no software whatsoever, no :diskettes. Who could help me get some software for this computer? If :I can't find any software, I guess I'll disect it for parts. It has :one internal 5.25" hardsectored disk drive. Thanks. :-- :Kevin Routh (routh@rtp.semi.harris.com) :Harris Semiconductor, Research Triangle Park, NC :(919) 361-1622 Kevin - you address bounced on me. please send me an email direct bout getting you H89 up and running. ======================================================================== Alex M. Bodnar Jr. Amateur Radio - KA3CIM PPSEL ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Information Systems Command CIS: 74216,3024 Systems Engineering Management Division Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD DDN Mailbox DSN 298-5747 Comm 1-301-278-5747 abodnar@apg-emh5.apg.army.mil ======================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 27 Sep 91 17:56:52 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!umriscc!curts@hplabs.hpl.hp.com (Curt Schroeder) Subject: Need info on the Apple CP/M 2.2 cpm56.com sysgen program. Message-ID: <3209@umriscc.isc.umr.edu> In article cmcewen@gnat.rent.com (Chris McEwen) writes: >curts@usenet.umr.edu (Curt Schroeder) writes: >> Also, does anyone know where I can find the annotated source code for the >> cpm56.com file? I really need access to this info so I can figure out how to >> make patches for my Rana Elite II drive on CP/M versions other than CP/M 2.2. >> Curt > >Actually, Curt, what you see as CPM56.COM is just standard notation for a >56K sysgen image of your system. Had it been sysgened for 58K and then >saved as a disk file (instead of placed on the system tracks), it would >be usual to name the file CPM58.COM. The point is that as a sysgen file, >there is no source for it. > >What you need is the source of the BIOS for your Apple II (or is it >Apple //e?). What kind of CP/M card have you got in the machine? >_______________________________________________________________________ >Chris McEwen Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal OK, I have a clone of the Microsoft CP/M card; no extra memory, uses DMA to access the system memory, and uses a Mostek Z80. I am running CP/M 2.2 on a 64K Apple II+ (heavily upgraded). My Rana Elite II drive (360K; 40 track, two sided) came with a .com file that when executed patched the cpm56.com file for sysgenning the new system. Fine, no problem, until I tried to upgrade to ZCPR. The version of ZCPR that I found uses a submit batch file (and DDT) to patch the cpm56.com file. The problem is that both patches are not compatible as written, one will clobber the other (regardless of which one is applied first). Further more, I keep toying with the idea of adding a hard drive, but if I can't properly integrate my Rana drive into ZCPR myself, there is no hope of adding a hard drive for use by CP/M (most add-on drives for the Apple seem to be strictly Prodos supported these days). There must be documentation somewhere on the contents of the system image that cpm56.com contains and loads onto the disk when you do a sysgen and how to patch cpm56.com to make changes! Any help that anyone can give would be most appreciated! Curt Curt Schroeder | U of Missouri - Rolla | curts@ee.umr.edu | ---------------------------------------| curts@cs.umr.edu | "Oops? What do you mean, oops? I | s076895@umrvma.bitnet | distinctly heard an oops!" - Opus | -- Apple II Forever -- | ------------------------------ Date: 26 Sep 91 15:29:12 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!bronze!silver!bwildasi@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Ben Wildasin) Subject: Re: C-128 CP/M screen I/O Message-ID: <1991Sep26.152912.5682@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> Using the public domain CONF command to set the RS-232 baud rate to a very low value helps a great deal. (Of course, when you use a terminal program, it's reset to something reasonable). CP/M's lowest baud rate setting is 50bps, but at that rate it drops keystrokes. Two settings that provide adequate key scanning while improving performance markedly are "conf baud=110" and "conf baud=75,feel=0". I'm not sure exactly what "feel" does but the lower the (non-negative) value, the better the keyboard's response. It would be interesting to see some kind of comparative benchmark of these 2 settings. Based on a subjective and unscientific test (scrolling in VDE), the 110bps setting seemed slightly faster, contrary to What Should Happen (tm). (or what intuition would suggest.) -- Ben Wildasin "Ah, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!" Internet: bwildasi@silver.ucs.indiana.edu BITNET: bwildasi@iubacs NeXT: bwildasi@arapahoe.ucs.indiana.edu ------------------------------ Date: 26 Sep 91 19:40:35 GMT From: swrinde!mips!ptimtc!nntp-server.caltech.edu!rknop@gatech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop) Subject: Re: C-128 CP/M screen I/O Message-ID: <1991Sep26.194035.17048@cco.caltech.edu> bwildasi@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Wildasin) writes: > .... Two settings that provide >adequate key scanning while improving performance markedly are "conf >baud=110" and "conf baud=75,feel=0". I'm not sure exactly what "feel" does >but the lower the (non-negative) value, the better the keyboard's response. If memory serves, "feel" indicates how often an interrupt checks the keyboard. A feel of 0 means to check the keyboard every time; a feel of 1 means to check the keyboard every other time (skip 1), and so forth. Baud says how many times the interrupt occurs. -Rob Knop rknop@tybalt.caltech.edu ------------------------------ Date: 25 Sep 91 22:59:13 GMT From: bobsbox!gnat!cmcewen@rutgers.edu (Chris McEwen) Subject: Re: FAQ for this group and an FTP archive site list? Message-ID: curts@usenet.umr.edu (Curt Schroeder) writes: > Also, does anyone know where I can find the annotated source code for the > cpm56.com file? I really need access to this info so I can figure out how to > make patches for my Rana Elite II drive on CP/M versions other than CP/M 2.2. > > Thanks in advance, > > Curt Actually, Curt, what you see as CPM56.COM is just standard notation for a 56K sysgen image of your system. Had it been sysgened for 58K and then saved as a disk file (instead of placed on the system tracks), it would be usual to name the file CPM58.COM. The point is that as a sysgen file, there is no source for it. What you need is the source of the BIOS for your Apple II (or is it Apple //e?). What kind of CP/M card have you got in the machine? _______________________________________________________________________ Chris McEwen Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal Editor, TCJ uucp: ..!att!nsscmail!gnat!cmcewen | PO Box 12 GEnie: c.mcewen -or- TCJ$ | S Plainfield NJ 07080 The Spirit of the Individual Made This Industry | (908) 755-6186 ------------------------------ Date: 25 Sep 91 17:06:06 GMT From: ecsgate!stat.appstate.edu!pembvax1.pembroke.edu!duck@mcnc.org Subject: Re: PIP Message-ID: <1991Sep25.130607.4068@pembvax1.pembroke.edu> In article , k2doggo@dorsai.com (jim chapman) writes: > A3> pip a:=c:*.* G0 > > which is my apparently wrong idea of how to copy everything off the C: > floppy into the current user area 3 of the hard drive A:. What should I > be doing instead? Try the following: pip a:[GX]=c:*.*[GY] Watch the brackets... This will copy from area Y on drive c to area X on drive a. Note that [GX] is not needed if you want it to goto A0... ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #169 *************************************